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EsquireCats said:

larrya said:

You guys are pathetic.  Apple cut performance by more than 50% and didn't bother telling anyone, and yet in Apple stores customers were told their batteries were fine, even refusing to provide paid replacements, and were encouraged to purchase new phones.  This is fraud, and the prosecutor's conclusion is uncontested by Apple.  You can love their products, as I do, without wearing blinders.

Actually you're pathetic: Apple didn't cut performance by 50% and CPU throttling has always been a device management strategy in the iPhone.

1. iPhones already throttled peak performance prior to these patches. E.g. For temperature extremes and preserving battery life.
2. The changes in iOS 10.2 and 11.2 extended the CPU throttling features to untenable battery scenarios - i.e. situations which would normally turn off the device. Apple acknowledged that unexpected shutdowns were being addressed at the time.
3. The most common worst case scenario resulted in a geek bench score of 2,500 being reduced to 1,500 during a peak load. The device operated at "normal" speeds during other times when the battery was able to supply sufficient power, or not under a stressful load.

Apple cut performance by more than 50%

Not only was peak load not reduced by 50%, but normal device usage was unaffected. Your comment lends to the idea that the phone was suddenly half as fast as before the update - there is no foundation for that.

...and didn't bother telling anyone

It was literally in Apple's statements about the update: "With iOS 10.2.1, Apple made improvements to reduce occurrences of unexpected shutdowns that a small number of users were experiencing with their iPhone."

Of all the devices tested in Geek bench 4 under iOS 10.2.1, the overwhelming majority had no change in performance and the average decrease in peak performance due to the new changes was ~10 - 15% 

So yeah your post is total sensationalist crap, and I think that's pathetic.

"3. The most common worst case scenario resulted in a geek bench score of 2,500 being reduced to 1,500 during a peak load. The device operated at "normal" speeds during other times when the battery was able to supply sufficient power, or not under a stressful load."


I can attest to this being wrong.  My device (iPhone SE) would function at 50% CPU speed and STAY that way.  No matter if the device was fully charged or plugged in.  This from a battery that still tested "ok" by Apple techs.  The situation only resolved itself after Apple admitted to their shennanigans and I was "allowed" to replace my battery.   I posted before and after screenshots two years ago indicating this.  THIS is where my bitterness still stems from...

People here are so defensive about the company.  Sometimes even fans need to take their blinders off every now and then.

AppleExposed said:

davebarnes said:

We upgraded our iPads to the retina versions the day they were available.
Now, our iPads are "good enough" and we sit here with money [burning a whole in our pockets] waiting for the resolution to double again.
I don't care about: speed, camera, color.
I care about image quality.

Sorry to say but doubling the resolution would not make a difference in image quality unless you use your iPad less than 1 foot from your face

Color on the other hand IS image quality and the human brain is more sensitive to color than resolution. So an HDR iPad would be a worthy upgrade.

What do they say always about opinions? 

slurpy said:

sportyguy209 said:

It seems that the system software innovations that Apple delights in, as of late, are new emoji's, messaging effects, dark mode, and other fluff. Instead, I'd like to see them making improvements in, what I feel are, more practical and useful applications like Apple Mail, Notes, Contacts, and Calendar.

Stop being completely full of shit.

 I want you to read fully through the below webpages, then come back here to re-read your post, and then tell us that you aren't embarrassed to stand by what you wrote.

https://www.apple.com/ca/ios/ios-13/features/
https://www.apple.com/ca/ipados/features/
https://www.apple.com/ca/macos/catalina/features/

 And that's only 3 of the 5 operating systems they currently manage.

 Stop spitting on the developers that have put millions of collective hours into literally thousands of user facing changes that go into these new releases, with your trollish and ignorant "lol emojis and effects" lies.

Yikes.

No doubt there are thousands of tweaks to the software, but in all honesty, Dark Mode was the biggest user change that I could explain to the majority of laymen around me without a deer in the headlights response.

iPadOS felt far more substantial, for which it was years overdue.

For the most part, iteration and gradual evolution is the name of the game now, until some revolutionary feature comes along that requires a rethinking of the software.  And that's okay as long as things don't inadvertently regress for the sake of "change".

Grayeagle said:

There's another reason to go a smaller and simpler iPhone. The major carriers, like Verizon, are letting their wire lines atrophy, and many households have been forced to switch to wireless. Additionally, it's obvious that many home/condo owners are switching to wireless and ditching the POTS  for hand-held wireless phones.   (Have you watched the size of the phone books diminish?)

To maintain a needed communications capability, one should not to be forced into a " Swiss Army Knife" type of iPhone that really should be marketed as an "iCamera." What's needed is an iPhone that's primarily a phone, with other uses secondary.   The ability to communicate should be the principal design criteria, with the capability to synch with other devices. 

(Written from bitter experience)

 

That's an interesting observation.  When the iPhone first came out, the intent was to provide additional functionality to the concept of a pocket "voice" phone.  Over the years this shifted more towards being an overall internet communication device, and then a content consumption device, where voice calls took a backseat.  In recent years, and in the absence of any substantial ways to evolve the handheld concept further, we've shifted the priorities to making the "phone" a pseudo-replacement for a dedicated/professional camera.  It's interesting how the biggest improvement in smartphone technology in recent years has primarily been in the camera, with Apple now approaching a brute force solution by adding two, and now 3 cameras on the back.  Are we reaching a point where it might be logical to rename "smart-phones" to "smart-cameras"? I'm half joking, but half serious.

melgross said:

TomE said:

My wife & others do not want a large iPhone.  They all want an SE2 form factor.  Easy to pocket and easy to hold.  On this - I think Apple has missed the importance.

Nonsense! While that may be true for a small number of people, putting a phone in a pocketbook gives it a lot of room, even in a small pocketbook. The difference in phone size doesn’t matter. I see people with giant phones in their pockets all the time.

so e people have made up their minds they don’t want big phones, and that’s ok, but the reasons I often see presented are ridiculous.

Reasons = One-handed use, palm balance, and comfort.  I use an iPhone 8 for work and an SE for home.  The difference is noticeable and can be appreciated in a side-by-side comparison.  My eyes are fine and I can see the smaller screen without much issue, and the beauty of the iPhone has always been the innovative "pinch-to-zoom" functionality that makes what is too small larger.