Xed

GeeAye said:

Please, for the love of dog, summer is not a time of year. It is not even a season in a huge chunk of the populated world.

yours truly, an Australian

Sure it is. It's just not the same everywhere.

I can prove it. Is 5pm a time of day? Of course it is, but it's not 5pm at the same time everywhere. It's not even the same time everywhere in Australia.

PS: I have found plenty of sources that show that Australia absolutely does refer to Spring, Summer, Fall/Autumn, and Winter as seasons of the year.

tht said:

Xed said:

Is this done completely on device?

Yes. Even MacWhisper is done on device. This is why time-to-finish here is a pretty big win.

Then that it is wonderful news!

Is this done completely on device?

I bet Trump Mobile will fold before the iPhone Fold comes out.

spheric said:

Xed said:

spheric said:

Wesley_Hilliard said:

9secondkox2 said:

ITGUYINSD said:

9secondkox2 said:

williamlondon said:

ramanpfaff said:

A professional grifter. Robbing any fool that will listen to him. Humanity has failed. 

The key here is the “fool,” without whom the entire movement would crumble.

Last I saw, a moderator here was deleting the same kind of posts for attacking politicians. but I guess it only applies to whatever side has the favorable bias. Have some consistency. 

The "side" is the same side most of the entire world sides with.  Sorry you're not on the majority side.

Not the majority on this forum. But in the country? See the recent election. 

Okay, *looks at recent election*

Total number of people in America: 340 million

People that voted for Trump in 2024: 77 million

People that voted for Trump in 2020: 74 million

People that voted for Trump in 2016: 62 million

You can't count the total population, as a bunch of those aren't even eligible to vote (due to being underage, and to systematic disenfranchisement of convicted criminals in many states). You also cannot count those who didn't vote, since NOT voting automatically means tacit agreement with whatever the outcome is. 

Total number of votes in 2024: 156 million. 

Trump got 49.4% of total votes cast. 

You absolutely can count the total popular when someone claims that the majority of the country supports a candidate.

In one sentence you mention "systematic disenfranchisement of convicted criminals in many states" and in the next you state "NOT voting automatically means tacit agreement with whatever the outcome is". Additionally, I know of a lot of people who can't vote due to age that didn't want a felon, rapist, and conman in office.

Do you not recall that FL changed the voting rights of previously convicted felons, but then Ron DeSantis then targeted and arrested many of those people who voted legally to scare off would-be Democratic voters in the future? I can understand why they would then not want to risk more jail time or even legal fees, and it has nothing to do with not wanting to vote.

How about the voting is set up to disenfranchise those that would not likely vote for a Republican? Things like Jerry Maundering to simply making voting so difficult that hard working people with families simply can't get the time to cast a vote?

Voting should be fair and balanced but it's unbalanced from the EC down. 

Yes, gerrrymandering, random I.D. requirements that aren't communicated in advance, changes in mail-in ballot deadlines, prohibiting passing out of water to voter queues, etc., etc., etc. are undemocratic and should have resulted in righteous outrage years ago. Absolute agreement. That's specifically why I mentioned the systematic disenfranchisement. You can't really "count" those who are systematically disenfranchised, though, because you have no way of knowing how they would vote. (Those who disenfranchised them in the first place probably have an idea, eh.)

You can absolutely NOT count those who made a wilful DECISION not to vote, because that decision means that they DO support whatever the outcome is. 

People who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Kamala, nor a third party, like to claim otherwise, but that's how democracy works: You choose not to vote — you agree with whatever happens. 

That's my point, perhaps made less than clearly. 

I agree that if you can vote but choose not to vote, vote for a 3rd party that could never win, or if you vote for a candidate that will actively  use the office to steal and cheat taxpayers for personal gain then you deserve what happens to the country. For the last one I am enjoying the FAFO videos of Trump supports crying on camera on how their livelihood has been ruined by tariffs or having their work force disband for fear of being deported.

But that's all besides the point when the OP suggested that the majority of the country voted for Trump. A majority of the voters didn't even vote for Trump. What Trump did was get more votes than any other candidate, and while that wouldn't have happened had Citizen United hadn't been enacted, by all reasonable counts it does look like Trump did win the popular vote (for the first time) and the EC vote.

Biden handed over the reigns like a decent leader who believes in democratically elected official should (compare with Trump after he lost in 2020) because the core of this country is democratic even if it's not in the best interest of the people. What Trump has mostly done since he got back in office legally has been illegal, but for all intents and purposes he did get slightly more votes than Harris in the 2024 election.


Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite — Joseph de Maistre