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eightzero said:

dewme said:

Thanks, this is helpful information.

Concur. Would also like to know if these vision correction devices can be paid for (in the US) with HSA/ FSA funds.

Apple addresses that as best they can in their FAQ

Are ZEISS Optical Inserts reimbursable under my Flexible Spending Account (FSA) or Health Savings Account (HSA) in the U.S.?
ZEISS Optical Inserts may be reimbursable under FSA or HSA. Please check with your FSA/HSA plan administrator.

avon b7 said:

foregoneconclusion said:

avon b7 said: There are rumours, but a sub $1,000, lower resolution, lower material quality, Eyesight-less device with controllers might have kick started the platform.

Apple isn't trying to emulate $500 headsets. The functionality/price of those hasn't resulted in consumer popularity so I'm not sure where people would get the idea that emulating them would "kick start" anything. 

How many $999 headsets do you think they would be able to convince people to buy into compared to the current 'Pro' model?

What impact do you think those sales would have on developer interest?

Not to mention the impact on sales for competitors. 

I'm sure such an option was being floated around Cupertino as soon as they green lighted the VP.

I can also understand why some would be reluctant to bring such a device to market fresh off the bat.

I'm sure there was a long meeting on the pros and cons of such a move. 

In the meantime, I expect the rumours of a Vision 'SE' will persist. 

Your question is a loaded one. It's obvious that a less expensive model opens up the door for more potential buyers, but you frame it as if you're making a profound statement that somehow Apple is too foolish to have even acknowledged in their many years of development and research. What your disingenuous questioning fails to note is that Apple has specifically chosen — not overlooked — a specific route for making and introducing their Vision Pro device.

You may as well argue that Apple should've just sold a dumb phone to users in the 1990s instead of making the first great smartphone OS that it created from reducing macOS down to its core and building it back up. They surely could've competed with Nokia a decade earlier and at a much lower price point had they done that. I, for one, am glad they didn't do that.

Personally, I don't think that Apple could've sold a sub-$1000 VR headset with a reasonable profit margin for a given number of units sold that included the M2, R1, eye tracking, and hand tracking sensors, regardless of whether it choose displays with a poor PPD or not. These sensors affect the core of the SW development so you may as well start with a solid foundation instead of switching a core input on users a few years later.

visciousp said:

Cool article.  First one I've seen that even attempts to collect real data.   AVP is flawed, but I'm keeping mine.  The flaws bother me, but the tech is years ahead of anything like it (sorry zuck)

I wish I could justify keeping it. I still have over a week before my AVP is required to be returned and I'm not using it. When the latest visionOS update and news about more apps appeared I did my due diligence to see if it's something I'd want to keep but there still wasn't enough there. If they had more social aspects laid out I'd probably have kept it. Hopefully WWDC comes with some major updates in that regard.

iOS_Guy80 said:

I could foresee passengers bringing their own light seal and lenses, just like people bringing their own headsets on flights.

In your scenario are these people being Zeiss lenses for AVP and also getting fitted for and buying their light seals for AVP, but not buying the full AVP all because they plan to fly on this Maldives airlines enough to make it worthwhile, or are they simply not bringing the the computing part of their personal AVP on their trip, which is the part that stores all their data and has their personal setup already in place for use on the plane and anywhere else they may be residing? I don't think either scenario is something that would ever be done.

This isn't a criticism per se, but this does read like a cheap attempt by this single-plane airline out of the Maldives to gain some press off of the Apple Vision Pro.