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dewme said:

mikethemartian said:

dewme said:

rob53 said:

My response to Beeper is that I control who I want to message. When I see a uSPAM message in green, it's my choice whether I want to block this caller or read the message. When I see a blue message, I can be assured that this message is being secured with proper security then determine whether I want to block or respond to the sender. In other words, it's my choice not the sender's whether I want to accept the message. I don't want any government agency forcing me to accept messages or email, that's my choice not their's. I buy Apple products and choose what other products I want to install on my Apple products. I refuse to be forced to install or accept products I don't want on my devices. 

Either I’m confused or my settings are different. When I get incoming messages from SMS or iMessage protocol in the Messages app, and whether they are safe or suspicious, they are always in a gray bubble (at least in dark mode). The only time I see green bubbles in my Messages app is when I respond to an SMS text. Is there a way to configure Messages to show colored bubbles on incoming texts?

Regardless of bubbles, I’m very happy to see that Apple blocked what was obviously a previously undiscovered privacy & security exploit disguised as an app. It won’t be the last.

All incoming bubbles are grey regardless if the other party is an iPhone or Android user. The blue or green bubble only appears when you send an outgoing message to that party. So any claims that the incoming bubble color allows you to filter spam is inaccurate since you won’t know if the sender is an Apple or Android user by color until after you already responded.

Which is exactly what I thought, which is why I asked the question. I don’t know of any way for a user to screen incoming messages based on the sender’s protocol. But maybe someone knows something about this that I’ve never stumbled across. 

Yeah I know bubble colors are a stand-in for saying which messaging system is being used for outgoing messages. 

So it sounds like green bubble shaming is a discretionary behavior that some Apple users inflict upon people who text them with an Android phone. So it’s a douchy person problem, not a technical issue whatsoever. Being a people problem, it absolutely makes sense for Apple to resolve through technical means because Apple should be responsible for implementing a technical workaround to mask the bad manners of some of its users. Sure. 

There is no shame in using or owning an Android phone. Have we sunk so low as a species to imply otherwise? Maybe Android phone users should look to Elon Musk to conjure up an appropriate response to those who engage in such behavior. He still has something to offer I suppose. 

dewme said:

rob53 said:

My response to Beeper is that I control who I want to message. When I see a SPAM message in green, it's my choice whether I want to block this caller or read the message. When I see a blue message, I can be assured that this message is being secured with proper security then determine whether I want to block or respond to the sender. In other words, it's my choice not the sender's whether I want to accept the message. I don't want any government agency forcing me to accept messages or email, that's my choice not their's. I buy Apple products and choose what other products I want to install on my Apple products. I refuse to be forced to install or accept products I don't want on my devices. 

Either I’m confused or my settings are different. When I get incoming messages from SMS or iMessage protocol in the Messages app, and whether they are safe or suspicious, they are always in a gray bubble (at least in dark mode). The only time I see green bubbles in my Messages app is when I respond to an SMS text. Is there a way to configure Messages to show colored bubbles on incoming texts?

Regardless of bubbles, I’m very happy to see that Apple blocked what was obviously a previously undiscovered privacy & security exploit disguised as an app. It won’t be the last.

Synth2 said:

1. ARM wouldn't exist without Apple--ARM started with the Newton.
2. Apple publicly invested >$700 million in ARM just before their IPO a couple months ago--could that have possibly helped their share price go higher?
3. Apple and ARM agreed to a long-term deal (till 2040!) just before their IPO a couple months ago--could that have possibly helped their share price go higher?
4. ARM could have held out for higher royalties before agreeing to said long-term deal just a couple months ago, but they didn't. Hmmm.  
5. Apple does all design and fabrication of their hyper-customized "ARM" chips. ARM does very little. Apple has an “architecture license” with ARM, which allows the company to design its own cores using the ARM instruction set. In other words, Apple does all the heavy lifting in producing their highly customized ARM chips.

dewme said:

mpantone said:

dewme said:

What happened with Apple’s relationship with Barclays?  I seem to remember using Barclays relationship with Apple to get interest free financing to purchase a couple of my earlier Macs and possibly iPads. 

Perhaps partnering with a non-US based bank may make it easier to roll out support for Apple Card more globally. 

Ultimately, shouldn’t we expect that Apple Card would be supported by multiple partners, similar to Mastercard and Visa?

You have made a common error by someone not familiar with the basics of the consumer credit card industry.

Mastercard and Visa aren't credit cards: they are payment networks. American Express is both a credit card company and a payment network.

Technically, the Apple Card is a Mastercard issued by Goldman Sachs USA, NA. It says so in the fine print of the service agreement that any Apple Cardholder accepted (by clicking "Accept"). In that way, it's similar to a VentureOne Mastercard issued by CapitalOne.

Barclays Bank would be the issuing bank. It's almost certain that Apple had discussions with Barclays Bank about the Apple Card (before it debuted) before Apple selected Goldman Sachs as a partner.

Apple would have to partner with banks from other countries to service customers in those areas. But those banks have to have a business in the country and follow the banking regulations of that country as well. It's not like an random American can apply for a JCB card (a Japanese card) or a UK card.

To have American cardholders, Apple needs to find a bank located in the USA (which would be subject to US consumer banking laws, not those of the UK, Japan, Nigeria, wherever.

Excellent insight and enlightenment. Thank you, You are correct, my exposure to credit card payment systems is solely as an end user. Barclays previous relationship with Apple lasted several years and was a benefit to me on a few occasions. That is why I was surprised when they were not part of the Apple Card deal.

Despite being a newbie when it comes to the credit card industry, I actually use credit cards extensively as a means to avoid carrying excessive cash. I never use debit cards. My go-to card has long been Discover because they have always had exceptional customer service when I’ve had to deal with them. But when I travel outside of the US, they have not been well supported so I have to carry either a Visa or Mastercard too. Perhaps I’d be better served with an Apple Card with it being a Mastercard and having some Apple related benefits. 

The only other exposure I’ve had with credit cards is company issued credit cards. Things may have changed over time, but I recall that unlike Visa/Mastercard, American Express was often a struggle to use outside of the US, at least for some expenses. I’m curious whether the Apple Card is widely used for company issued credit cards? Speaking of Japan, at least in the late ‘90s, business travel there was a struggle with any credit card, regardless of the issuer or sovereignty of the issuer. Everything was cash-only, even hotels. Hopefully that’s improved.