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anonymouse said:

SmittyW said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

SmittyW said:

Wesley Hilliard said:

canukstorm said:

DAalseth said:

I wonder if Trump knows it won’t change. He made all sorts of really stupid promises to his supporters. These Executive Orders let him say he followed through, but like his promise in 2016 to ‘bring back coal’ none of them stand a chance in hell of happening. He knows that but he’s just going through the motions. It’s also good misdirection so people talk about this, while he and his crew are doing real damage behind the scenes. 

As a non-US citizen, how do Executive Orders work?  Are they not binding?  For example, the issue of birthright citizenship is a hot button topic which from my understanding is protected by the 14th Amendment.  Can an executive order just overturn that even though it's in the Constitution?

Nope. Many of Trump's executive orders were actually illegal. An executive order is kind of like a promissory note that conveys the intentions of the administration. They are binding for federal employees and offices, but can't go beyond that and can't violate the constitution. The orders can later be considered by Congress and the Supreme Court if they need further legislation to make them more official, or if they need to be blocked.

For example, his orders about birthright citizenship aren't allowed, period. He can't actually provide amnesty to ByteDance from a law that was passed. And he can't withdraw from the WHO like that. He's being sued already and there are a lot of people on both sides of the isle that are unhappy with the many of the executive orders and what they do. Congress will likely overturn several. We'll see.

You need to do some more research and look into what 'US jurisdiction' means. Might want to look up supreme court precedent while you're at it. You are welcome.

Also, that's a shame about the WHO, looks like Tedros is going to have to go back to embezzling funds from the Ethiopian government again. Poor guy.

I don't think Wes is the one that needs to look up US jurisdiction. 

I would encourage you to look deeper into that issue. If someone sneaks into your house, does that mean you're obligated to make them part of your family and give them your resources? The 14th amendment was created to grant citizenship to former slaves during the Reconstruction. 

The text of the 14th Amendment is quite unambiguous,

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It doesn't say anything about applying only to former slaves. There aren't any restrictions at all such as that their parents are citizens, or even in the country legally. It clearly and simply says, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." There's no wiggle room there. The idea that The Constitution can be amended by executive order is a pill too bitter for even the corrupt right wing of SCOTUS to swallow. But, you know, maybe they'll go along, and then the next President (or, who knows, maybe even this one) can simply repeal the 2nd Amendment by executive order.

Appleish said:

I hope his sheep realize that Executive Orders are weak and temporary edicts. The moment his second and final term is over, the Democrat elected to clean up his mess AGAIN will reverse all of this petty BS.

entropys said:

I find it all very entertaining.  

One lot of yanks are currently overloaded with euphoria at the thought of a wrecking ball tearing the establishment down, the other lot are crying in their cups.

and why not call it the Gulf of America? It isn’t as though the left aren’t busy changing place names all the time.

manwithnoname said:

WOW after of the complete disaster of Biden & Harris, the US economy and the country itself brought to its knees there is still this insane hatred of Trump! Unbelievable. That's and opinion of someone in the UK looking at what has happened to the great nation of the USA of the last four years. Tim Cook knows big change is coming and all he is doing is positioning himself and Apple to take advantage of that.

jfabula1 said:

Xed said:

timmillea said:

From someone outside the U.S. (I am from England), I find it baffling that Trump 1) would even stand as a candidate to be president and 2) would actually be elected! Why is American politics all about money? It appears the mega-rich pay in and get what they want. Ask Trump on his views on homosexuality (Tim Cook is gay), or misogyny (Trump has previous here). Truly, in a country that size, you would think there were far better candidates. It appears to be all about money. Democracy does not exist in the USA. 

There's a long history of events that have lead to this. From Reagan's horrible policies to Citizens United removing campaign contribution limitations, to the creation of legalized money laundering with SuperPACs, and countless other things. I won't even get into the lack of integrity of so-called news outlets pushing a narrative of fear by spreading lies. Trump only was possible because of all these failures that led to lifelong grifter, liar, and sexual predator as POTUS.

It's said that he US can survive 4 years of a bad president. Typically I'd agree, except we're not dealing with someone that loves the US who is moving things in a direction that's not sustainable. We're dealing with a traitor who owes Putin and who won't hesitate to destroy every aspect of this country to protect himself. There is no honorable person who will be in charge in a couple weeks.

What's sad is that I know  some Trump supporters. The ones I know personally are just politically ignorant. They literally have the Fox News logo burned into their TV and think Tucker Carlson was news (when he was on). They're old, early duped, and easily scared by a changing world. They are simply easy marks for being scammed. Then there are others who simply want to see everything burn — and I see several on this website. They don't think Trump will actually help them, but love the idea that someone else like them, with no moral fiber, who hates woman, who hates foreigners, and for some reason are fine with a pedophile as POTUS. This group isn't being duped by Trump's grift, they simply want to see it destroyed because they are too insecure to admit that they're failures because of their own life choices and inadequacies.

Another election looser that can’t over it….he hates foreigners you said? He loved them, hint (Malania)