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  • Benchmarks show that Intel's Alder Lake chips aren't M1 Max killers

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    cogitodexter said:
    Serious question:

    What does an Intel Core i9 do that requires it to be as power inefficient in the same processing circumstances as an AS M1 Max?

    Presumably there's a reason why it draws so much more current to achieve the same ends? Are there features in it that are not replicated in the M1 Max? 

    I'm assuming the architecture is radically different, but what stops Intel from changing to that architecture?
    Power is consumed when a transistor switch from 0 to 1 or 1 to 0. Switching is controlled by clock cycles. The more switching the more power is consumed. 
    MplsPAlex_Vwatto_cobraLukeCage

  • Benchmarks show that Intel's Alder Lake chips aren't M1 Max killers

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    This CPU is on a death spiral. 
    sconosciutomagman1979sandyman18Alex_Vdanoxwatto_cobra

  • Chip shortages could last until the second half of 2022, White House says

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    Finally I realized the chip shortage is a consequence of the failed Wuhan semiconductor project. The people in the know don't have the gut to speak the truth for fearing repercussion. Sad!
    sconosciutowilliamlondon

  • Intel to build $20 billion chip factory in Ohio

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    highframerate said:
    Look folks. This plant doesn't have squat to do with China. This plant is being built so Intel can catch TSMC. Even if Intel doesn't catch TSMC getting "close enough" - like staying one generation behind is fine. Not everyone needs to be on the latest, best node. Qualcomm switched to Samsung - which is one generation behind TSMC due to inferior transistor density - for their flagship chips and it hasn't affected them one bit. MediaTek - until this year - avoided TSMC's latest nodes to save money and have now surpassed Qualcomm as the #1 chipseller in the world. AMD has never used TSMC's latest nodes either. Their current chips are 7nm while TSMC is releasing 4nm chips for their mobile partners. By the time the TSMC backlog FINALLY allows AMD's 5nm Zen 4 chips on the market 4Q2023, Apple's 4nm M2 chips will be out for the 2nd gen MacBook Air, 13' MacBook Pro and Mac Mini refreshes as well as for the 1st gen iMac Pro and Mac Pro. 

    Getting "close enough" would definitely allow Intel to get business from Nvidia, who also doesn't use the latest process node: they are a generation behind on TSMC and have also used Samsung. It would also be good enough for Qualcomm. Where their flagship chips are currently being made on Samsung's 4nm (which at least allows them to compete with TSMC's 4nm on paper) their non-flagship chips are being made on Samsung's 5nm and TSMC's 7nm. Qualcomm would be able to shift that to Intel, save themselves a lot of money and get their products to market faster.
    ASML used an idea from TSMC to developed EUV. IBM, Intel, Samsung funded ASML with $5 billions ten years ago obtaining priority in shipment. China is late in the game. It has money but no deals. So it is blocked and has to develop EUV by itself.
    GeorgeBMac

  • Intel to build $20 billion chip factory in Ohio

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    crowley said:
    Japhey said:
    For the love of God, can we just once have a civil conversation around here without the 2 resident sleeper agents sowing their pro-China/anti-American propaganda seeds? 

    Just once? I don’t ask for much, but literally JUST ONE TIME. 

    Ugh. 
    You only want to listen to good words for US. Why there are some people on AI allowed to say bad words on China? Isn't this double standard, or no empathy? 
    No one is saying bad words about China, and your hyper-defensiveness and propaganda is disruptive to interesting conversation.  Put a sock in it.
    Completely false. I was replying to the poster that claims US is trying to compete with China on semiconductor. This is the real hyper-defensiveness and propaganda is disruptive to revitalize US semiconductor industry. The fact of the truths is China has no domestic semiconductor industry. It depends on imports of chips. In fact, China spends more money importing chips than importing crude oils. On the other hand, the semiconductor industry was founded by US for more than 40 years. Claiming investing 52 billion is hyper-defensiveness and propaganda.

    Tell me which facts I stated is untrue? When you bash me on saying there is no 13" MacBook Pro as untrue. You provided fact. This is a good way of     discussing. How come when I discuss China-US relations you can't do the same? Instead you use bs words attacking me. 
    GeorgeBMac