Rogue01

Poor writing and poor headline.  It was not a Windows update.  It was an update pushed out by CrowdStrike, for their software.  Companies that don't use their software were not affected.

Here is where the Vision Pro fails big time - it cannot even detect or see fellow Vision Pro users in the same room.  It is a completely isolated device.  Multiple people in the same room cannot see the same thing.  Forget about games.  The whole idea of using AR to play games is also to play with your friends and see them in the same game space to play together.  Vision Pro is not capable of doing that.  You are playing games alone, for the small amount of games that even work with the product.

At $3500, yeah, way too expensive for most consumers, mainly because most consumers don't care about AR at all.  Probably explains why Cult of Mac confirmed a 76% return rate on the Vision Pro.  Most reviewers had the same conclusion - they would rather be in the 'real world' looking at a computer or device, then looking through the world through cameras.  A text comes in on your phone, you can barely read the phone in front of your face with the goggles on.

Hilarious that the 'new' MacBook Air with the same M3 chip as the MacBook Pro now supports two external displays when the lid is closed, but the M3 MacBook Pro can only support one external display.  Meanwhile, all Intel MacBooks can support two external displays with the lid open, for 3 displays.  Way to go Apple.  And still extortion prices for RAM and SSD upgrades.  Maybe Apple is listening to all the complaints to restore a popular feature that they took away when they introduced Apple Silicon.  

Looks like Apple is going to avoid a big PR blunder with the M3 MacBook Pro and they just announced an upcoming software update that will enable the same dual external display support with the lid closed, as featured in the new M3 Air.  So they basically admitted that dual external display support was disabled.  Now that the M3 Air can do it, they realized they already have an M3 product on the market and they had to fix that one to avoid customer backlash.

Xed said:

cpsro said:

Xed said:

cpsro said:

This and the car cancellation may be signs Vision Pro isn't doing so well.

How are they connected?

Expenses without good, near-term ROI. Add to that the need to push on AI.

3) What's wrong with the AVP? It's been out a a few weeks and you're calling it a failure, do I have that correctly? If so, why and where is your proof?

Cult of Mac already confirmed a 76% return rate on Apple Vision Pro.  What's wrong with it?  Read or watch a review.  Plenty of things that Apple missed or ignored, the AR market is non-existent, and it is an answer looking for a question.  No one ever asked for better AR, and it is WAY overpriced.  In this economy, your typical person is not wasting $3500 on it.  It is a niche product that the majority have zero interest in.  It is like Apple was bored and at first they took a stab at speakers, the HomePod, and that is a failure, so then they decide to make an excessively overpriced pair of AR goggles that no one asked for.  AVP is like a fancy technology product that no one wants or asked for.  The 76% return rate tells you that.  People bought them knowing they can return for a 100% refund within 14 days...so they play with it, and then decide, yeah, will never use it, going back.  AR/VR is nothing new, and the consumer market just isn't into it.  3DTV failed because people don't even want to wear glasses to watch TV, let alone a heavy pair of goggles for 2-3 hours.  So it means...a lot of money wasted...on this, and on the fantasy car that Apple was never going to get off the ground.  So they have to make some cuts.

Stop comparing it to the iPhone.  The iPhone solved the bad smartphone market.  Re-watch the iPhone keynote which showed 4 typical bad smartphones.  The iPhone solved the problem with those phones.  VisionPro solves nothing.  No one cares about AR.  No one wants to wear goggles.  No ever said, I wish there was a better headset.  The VisionPro is a homeless product because it is an answer looking for a question.  And $3500 won't fix that.

Articles are now coming out confirming a 45% return rate on VisionPro.  Reasons - Uncomfortable, headaches, motion sickness, doesn't offer anything more than what is already done on your phone or computer, when something happens on your phone, you can't see your phone clearly through the cameras, and...most would rather look at their computer directly, not through goggles.

Have no idea why Apple made this product when no one has been interested in AR/VR for decades.  3DTV failed because people did not even want to wear glasses, let alone a heavy pair of goggles to watch TV.  I would rather work directly on my Mac with multiple displays, than try and visually control it with heavy goggles on my face, and be limited to one screen only.