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avon b7 said:

chutzpah said:

avon b7 said:

headfull0wine said:

freeassociate2 said:

person said:

Do credit card companies make it so you can use the nfc chips in their cards work with other companies?
I think not

Yes, they do. Do some research, please. 

I worked in a Canadian bank for 17 years. There’s no way they’d let the NFC chip on their Visa card put a transaction through for another Bank’s Visa. 

Apple does allow this. But it’s only under  their terms, with their privacy and security model. And yes, they take a commission for it and don’t pass personal information about the transaction back to the bank. Good! That’s how I, the customer, want it.  And that’s why I chose to set up my card in Apple Pay. And my bank is still making a ton of money from it. I am the customer to the merchant, the bank, and Apple. I WANT it this way. 

It's fine that you WANT it that way but it isn't fine that that gets applied to everyone.

My wife doesn't want it that way. She wants to use her bank card through her bank's wallet system just like I do on my Android phone. 

She can't because Apple doesn't allow it. 

IMO, Apple should make its NFC setup available to banking institutions, inform users of what the options are and let consumers decide. 

I can't for the life on me imagine why this is something that a person would want to do.  Why do you want to use other wallet apps?  What difference does it make?

Apple wedges itself in as a middleman, prevents competition and takes a cut out of every transaction. 

My wife detests that aspect and refuses to use Apple Pay as a result. 

That, among other things that she has had to deal with over the years, is seriously wearing down her leanings towards iPhone. 

avon b7 said:

headfull0wine said:

freeassociate2 said:

person said:

Do credit card companies make it so you can use the nfc chips in their cards work with other companies?
I think not

Yes, they do. Do some research, please. 

I worked in a Canadian bank for 17 years. There’s no way they’d let the NFC chip on their Visa card put a transaction through for another Bank’s Visa. 

Apple does allow this. But it’s only under  their terms, with their privacy and security model. And yes, they take a commission for it and don’t pass personal information about the transaction back to the bank. Good! That’s how I, the customer, want it.  And that’s why I chose to set up my card in Apple Pay. And my bank is still making a ton of money from it. I am the customer to the merchant, the bank, and Apple. I WANT it this way. 

It's fine that you WANT it that way but it isn't fine that that gets applied to everyone.

My wife doesn't want it that way. She wants to use her bank card through her bank's wallet system just like I do on my Android phone. 

She can't because Apple doesn't allow it. 

IMO, Apple should make its NFC setup available to banking institutions, inform users of what the options are and let consumers decide. 

AppleInsider said:

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CheeseFreeze said:

Subscription from Apple for an app?
No thanks. F*cking subscriptions everywhere for an app I sometimes use everyday, sometimes not for months.

If this happens with FCPX for macOS as well I’m off to Resolve. A shame because FCP is an excellent NLE (just very behind competitors in features) 

Anilu_777 said:

Any bank can attach their cards to Apple Pay and it works. What is their problem? They’re getting the free ride as Apple is the one developing Apple Pay and making sure it’s secure.