jdw

jas99 said:

The case is a ridiculous waste of DOJ’s resources. It’s also an insult to what could be the most ethical and socially responsible major company in history. 

The waste of taxpayer dollars at the DOJ with regard to ANTITRUST is set to increase, thanks to a strong push by the Whitehouse:
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/antitrust/biden-requests-63-million-boost-to-justices-antitrust-division

Stabitha_Christie said:

So which it is, are you uniformed or lying?

You may not be embarrassed by your behavior but is most certainly embarrassing. 

I am not labeling you with not-so-friendly terms like uninformed or liar.

I realize some folks have an itching desire to always be right in internet debates, but that's not what I seek.   I shared an opinion.  Some will accept it, while others will reject it.  So be it. I am satisfied that you and I THINK DIFFERENT.  I don't expect to convince you.  Perhaps you don't expect to convince me either, but you don't hold back in casting verbal stones.  I see no reason to get so bent out of shape about this.  In the greater scheme of things, this topic and our thoughts on it don't matter.

Sometimes being nice is the best course of action when arguments lead nowhere. So in parting ways with you on this topic, I wish you well.

Stabitha_Christie said:

jdw said:

Summary of the Conversation:

Activist Judge: "How can you justify making more profits than companies barely scraping by?"

Apple: "We seek to be here 10-20 years from now and therefore seek the profits necessary to achieve that."

Activist Judge: "I personally think you should make only profit necessary to barely remain in business, and I honestly don't care what your investors think."

I’m embarrassed on your behalf. 

Judge Gonzales-Rogers has rules in Apple’s favor on  all but one count. Her ruling stated that Apple wasn’t a monopoly,  that the 30% cut, while high, was legal and that that Apple could charge a cut even if the purchase was made outside of the store. She even went as far as to say making a lot of money isn’t illegal. 

That you ignored her entire ruling and made up  a factually incorrect narrative to personally attack the judge is just sad. 

First of all, you state a 30% cut is "high" (either based on your own personal belief and/or what you've found stated in the courts), but I disagree it is high.  I would call it "normal" for any good business who wants to stay in business in the long term.

Second, I'm not sure why you're embarrassed on my account when you merely have chosen to disagree.  And the basis of your disagreement assumes the judge makes all the right decisions as per your citing of her having "ruled in Apple's favor on all but one count."  Your statement seeks to have us all believe that we should naturally assume that remaining count she takes issue with must truly be an issue only because she ruled in Apple's favor on all but one count.  "She largely ruled in Apple's favor, so let's cut her some slack on the remaining issue" — would be my interpretation of what you wrote.

But I disagreed with that one count in my earlier post for reasons I've already stated.  You simply read what I wrote, disagreed, and here we are.  So there's no reason to get embarrassed about anything.  You and I simply disagree, and that's okay.  If everyone thought the same on this planet, what a boring and unproductive place it would be!

Summary of the Conversation:

Activist Judge: "How can you justify making more profits than companies barely scraping by?"

Apple: "We seek to be here 10-20 years from now and therefore seek the profits necessary to achieve that."

Activist Judge: "I personally think you should make only profit necessary to barely remain in business, and I honestly don't care what your investors think."

YP101 said:

Recycle the Apple product in USA does not pay you either.
I rather use Apple trade in every 3 years to buy new iPad.

This is the Apple Japan "Trade In" page, which does NOT accept trade-ins for very old Apple devices like my 2012 iPad:
https://www.apple.com/jp/shop/trade-in

Selling a ballooned battery iPad on Yahoo Auctions Japan is not something I was interested in doing because I am cleaning house now in preparation for a move.  There are safety issues when shipping something dangerous like to a BUYER that as well.  While some may consider it a waste to recycle it, there was good use out of that device through the years, and it was time to be recycled.  It's too old and slow to be refurbished.  And once you refurbish and replace the battery, that battery too will eventually die, possibly balloon, and then cost even more money to fix.

I no longer really have a use for iPads because I turn to my 16" M1 Max MBP most of the time.  Larger screen and better speakers make for great video watching, and I tend to need full access to my computer when I videoconference with people.  I often get frustrated with the limitations of iOS.  macOS is truly liberating in comparison.  That's not to say iPads are bad.  Many people like them.  I've just been there.  Done that.  Maybe one day Apple will make a more appealing new iPad for me again.  For 2024 though, the Mac is all our family needs.  And on that note I'd like to say we still have a late 2009 27" iMac which is in daily use today.  Just another example of how the Mac tends to outlast iOS devices.  Not having a battery that balloons and destroys your electronics helps a lot!