anantksundaram

tmay said:

anantksundaram said:

tmay said:

... there is in fact a number of National Security issues with Huawei, and I posted the link to what the Australians had determined in their adversary simulations. Would you also blame the Czechs and Australia for "absolute protectionism"?

Didn't the Dutch also recently come up with security issues vis-a-vis Huawei?

Yep.

All the EU countries have concerns, but the Telecoms are all about low cost, and that's what state supported Huawei provides.

avon b7 said:

acejax805 said:

avon b7 said:

dewme said:

I really wish there was some objective, scientific, and non-politicized coverage of the actual issues the US has with Huawei. A lot of the concerns seem to be pure conjecture or hypotheticals and ignore the fact that all countries, US and EU ones included, have both the ability and incentives to place surveillance inside any hardware or software communication platforms and equipment, whether at the manufacturing point of origin or through interception anywhere in the supply, distribution, or service channels and pretty much regardless of where the equipment is deployed. It's not like Huawei is building a giant ship with a massive crane to mine manganese nodules from the bottom of the ocean off the east coast of the US, or anything like that...

There is absolutely nothing more than you point out.

The Trump administration simply didn't want to see the Chinese take a tech lead (5G for example) over the US.

Trump tried to get other countries to do the dirty work by banning Huawei. Most of those countries refused (after requesting evidence and not getting any) and as a US ban wasn't going to be enough, he simply declared a 'national emergency' to justify an executive order. This in spite of court cases (by both sides) already being underway.

Why wait for the legalities to be cleared up when you can skip that part altogether?

We are now in Wild West Politics and the sheriff is acting like one of those dodgy sheriffs in some crazy western.

Blatant protectionism and nothing else save for the conjecture and hypotheticals.

This is not the precedent the US should be setting on a world stage. 

Not sure what world you've been living in the last 100 or so years, but this is what politics is. This is what countries do. They manage deals, relationships, et.al. that protect their country and their interests. People are so upset that the US is finally doing the same thing. China has been doing this since the 1980s. What rock has everyone been living under? Now the outrage comes out? Disingenuous af. 

Enlighten me with some cases on this scale.

Protectionism. Not national security.

redhotfuzz said:

I’m actually amazed Google is doing the right thing here. After all, they’ve been fueling Asian knockoff artists (including Samsung) since Android 1.0, at the expense of/on the backs of American companies and American innovation. Remember how Google bought one of the last remaining American mobile device companies (Motorola), only to mine their patents before dumping the company off on the Chinese? All to build a mobile market share monopoly to feed their sweet, sweet digital surveillance advertising business.

Now all that remain are Apple and, surprise, Google. Who, like Microsoft before them, found it worthwhile to stab their hardware “partners” in the back by jumping into the hardware market themselves for some potentially-lucrative double-dipping.

Google are scum, but at least they’re doing the right thing here. For once.