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Xaviercross1971 said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

bulk001 said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

bohler said:

I‘m pretty sure that Apple will kill the product soon which is an utter shame! they haven‘t even bothered to sell it in most countries around the globe...looking at recent fails including the laptop keyboards, charging mats, Apple car etc it seems as if Apple is more interested in debt funded share buybacks and financial engineering then its customers

We heard this for two years after the Apple Watch was released, that it was a failure, was going to be cancelled soon, wasn't sold in most countries around the world.

And yet, here we are.

Related to this, if as few as six million sold, which is on the low end of analysts estimates for its first year of availability, that, by itself is a $1.5 billion market plus.

So we have gone from the 1 billion you quoted me a week or two ago to 1.5 billion now? If wishes were horses pigs would fly. The fact is that they miscalculated what people want or did not create the case for why people need it. Or charged to much. Or something else. Oh, and it uses Siri which is, well Siri. No amount of theorizing a minimum number changes this. I look forward to the case for 2 billion next ... (I’m just giving you a bit of a hard time! Apple really shines on v3 or 4 so will take a look at it in a few years).

six million * #300 = 1.8 billion

six million * $250 = $1.5 billion

six million * $200 = $1.2 billion

The truth is, we'll never know. It isn't a failure by any stretch, though.

It has an estimated $216 cost. Odds are they made very little on the HomePod. The other thing is that smart speakers are a delivery device for services. The fact that Apple is allowing Apple music on Echo devices shows that it was a failure for Apple and that there won't be a HomePod mini coming.

No Apple had already allowed Sonos to connect to Apple Music,  there's little point in barring support on Amazon devices and we already know Google Assistant support is coming soon.   As a service that generates monthly subscriber revenue Apple has every incentive to branch out to other devices.  Their actions have nothing to do with the success or failure of HomePod. 

Mike Wuerthele said:

bohler said:

I‘m pretty sure that Apple will kill the product soon which is an utter shame! they haven‘t even bothered to sell it in most countries around the globe...looking at recent fails including the laptop keyboards, charging mats, Apple car etc it seems as if Apple is more interested in debt funded share buybacks and financial engineering then its customers

We heard this for two years after the Apple Watch was released, that it was a failure, was going to be cancelled soon, wasn't sold in most countries around the world.

And yet, here we are.

Related to this, if as few as six million sold, which is on the low end of analysts estimates for its first year of availability, that, by itself is a $1.5 billion market plus.

Excellent point MW.   I had forgotten how the naysayers gleefully proclaimed the demise of not only the Apple Watch but the iPad as well and then suddenly both products hit an inflection point and their competitors faded away. I see the HomePod's taking a similar trajectory

mdriftmeyer said:

ElCapitan said:

That's what happens when you start to compete with your content providers. 

Apple's board should stop AppleTV+ cold turkey, and direct the management to only provide an attractive platform for all content providers to offer the broadest possible selection to Apple customers. 

And like others have said--though it should never need to be said to an adult--get off your duff, explore the world and live beyond your sedentary lifestyle. Growing up with first 3 channels, then 13, then suddenly 55, etc., wasn't making me watch more productions to keep me satisfied.

People tune out to watch shows. They tune in when they use technologies to create.

I know people hate to hear tough love but there's so much more to do than binge watching every series. I'm trying to get more into photography because it's more affordable than ever.  I'm trying to learn piano,   figure out what Raspberry Pi is all about,  rekindle my love for audio since the hobby has never been cheaper nor had more options.  I realize that there are different strokes for different folks but if watching TV 8 hours a day is a person's preference then $200 a month including fast broadband is cheap. 

It's interesting to see the wide dynamic range of human accomplishment.    In one week we have the first look at what a Super Massive Black Hole looks like with collaboration between scientists all over the globe and in the same week we have the other end of the spectrum in which a company has a patent on "saving battery by blocking things".  

I find the euphoria I get from scientific discovery is quickly dashed by the absolute insanity of our patent system in modernity. 

There's this misconception that an Apple Mac based on ARM is going to use the same chipset as the mobile lineup.  This is not true and will not happen.   ARM is a scalable architecture.  Apple's going to design and build their own Desktop Class ARM processors that would be too large or hot to be put in an iOS device.   Think in terms of an Apple ARM processor that approaches Ampere's offerings 

https://amperecomputing.com/product/