I said as much. Where exactly did I state that Flash shouldn?t be on the iPhone simply because I don?t want it? I never speak in those terms. I talk about what works for me, and technical, political and financial reasons why something may or may not happen in the tech world.
Granted you didn't, and you are indeed quite careful with your wording. I was just a bit thrown off by that all caps sentence. Quite uncharacteristic (at least from what I've seen).
Postulant - I'm using clicktoflash because flash is dreadful on the Mac (and probably just as bad on Linux). I look forward to the day when I can fully browse the internet without propriety plug-ins. Maybe in my lifetime...
Postulant - I'm using clicktoflash because flash is dreadful on the Mac (and probably just as bad on Linux). I look forward to the day when I can fully browse the internet without propriety plug-ins. Maybe in my lifetime...
Postulant - I'm using clicktoflash because flash is dreadful on the Mac (and probably just as bad on Linux). I look forward to the day when I can fully browse the internet without propriety plug-ins. Maybe in my lifetime...
Could be an “out of the frying pan, into the fire” situation. Right now, we have ClickToFlash so we turn off the Ads easy since the annoying ones are Flash based. The simple JPEGs and GIFs are not big deal.
But if Flash gets replace with HTML/CSS/JS, especially using CPU heavy features like HTML5’s Canvas, we will require a much more intelligent system to disable these ads. Some of the new HTML5 stuff is cool but it can run your CPU higher than Flash currently does.
If you have Safari 4 you can open up Activity Monitor to see Safari CPU usage. I forget what version of Firefox is needed.
Slightly thicker than an iPhone. Am I the only one that doesn't care how thin this thing is? Is this really a feature that anyone cares about?
I do. I can easily slip my iPhone in my pocket. If I tried that with my Treo people would think I was happy to see them or something
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Give me more battery life.
I can get a day out the iPhone easily. I have a charger in my car that I rarely use, and I have speakers with a dock connector at my desk where my iPhone generally sets as soon as I get into work. But even on the move as I am these days, iPhone battery life isn't an issue for me. I never understood the desire to have a phone that could run a week on a battery - is it really that hard to plug it in at night? For me, not really since I have a dock equipped clock radio and I use a white noise app while I sleep. I think Apple made a good compromise in the iPhone design and I really enjoy not having to have a holster or some other phone carrier.
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OK, you can't be too rich or too thin, but really, who wants to talk into a credit card?
But it's not a credit card. It's not overly thin (that would be the iPod Touch - yow!) or thick. It's a compromise and a darn functional one.
And for the few times I need more juice, I use the $24 (from Costco) Sanyo Eneloop universal battery pack that will charge any USB device (even my work *gag* blackberry).
But the cars are getting bigger. Honda Accord used to be classified as a mid size car, but now it is classified as a full size family sedan. Bigger car, longer leg room --- you redesign the seats a little bit --- you don't need the car to get taller to get comfortable.
It's not as comfortable getting in and out for one thing. Two door cars are a real pain as they get lower.
Testing has found the Droid to successfully attain over 6 hours+ before requiring a recharge, which is far better than my iPhone 3GS (by more than 1.5 hours) even though my iPhone lacks (user defined) multi-tasking, and a display supporting some 2.69 times the screen resolution.
Are you trying to pitch the Droid as being able to get 6+ hours of battery life with multiple apps simultaneously running in the background?
Are you trying to pitch the Droid as being able to get 6+ hours of battery life with multiple apps simultaneously running in the background?
I'm not 'pitching' anything, as I have no vested interest one way or another.
Question: Do the conditions under which the device achieved that (talk) time really matter when a 'certain competitor' can't approach that kind of battery autonomy even with everything (save the phone function) disabled?
No, the prices are not fixed. The link you have post it's not about price fixing, it's about raising prices after regulating call billing. It was changed from rounding to the upper minute to having to account only the second you use and the all the companies raised their price per second but they don't have the same price.
At Movistar I was payiing 0.18 ?/min, now I'm paying 0.08?/min.
Mmm, I'm not talking about which screen is better, I'm talking about screen aspect ratios.
Allow me to cordially Welcome You To the 21st Century where actual wide-screen aspect ratios reign supreme
Yes you have to understand the conditions to understand why one is getting better battery life. It has nothing directly to do with iPhone and Android.
CDMA phones are able to get better battery life than GSM phones because CDMA cannot do voice and data at the same time, while GSM does.
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Originally Posted by DaHarder
I'm not 'pitching' anything, as I have no vested interest one way or another.
Question: Do the conditions under which the device achieved that (talk) time really matter when a 'certain competitor' can't approach that kind of battery autonomy even with everything (save the phone function) disabled?
The object is to have streaming video at good quality and the least battery drain as possible. HTTP Streaming is far better at this than Flash.
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Originally Posted by DaHarder
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As for your constant ranting about 'streaming' video - streaming video is possible on almost any phone, but is essentially made moot when one can receive live video broadcast (no Wifi required) on phones like the HTC Imagio with better video quality, and far less battery drain.
I don't want to hear about next June and the new iPhone.
I want to know why I shouldn't buy Droid on November 6th?
Busy day for Google. You Really Don't think all of this was planned? Steve needs to resign if he didn't see this coming.
You don't need a reason to do anything just go and buy what you want and have fun.
Do you think Apple need to bring out a new phone everytime a competitor does and since when was Steve Jobs the all seeing all knowing god of the technology world? You can't stifle progress and I'd rather have Google/apple in competition than the pathetic offerings from Microsoft over the last decade or so.
Whist your trolling I might add that your wasting your time trying to manufacturer an apple vs google war. Most Apple fans I know are equally open to Google also. It's called healthy competition.
You don't need a reason to do anything just go and buy what you want and have fun.
Do you think Apple need to bring out a new phone everytime a competitor does and since when was Steve Jobs the all seeing all knowing god of the technology world? You can't stifle progress and I'd rather have Google/apple in competition than the pathetic offerings from Microsoft over the last decade or so.
Whist your trolling I might add that your wasting your time trying to manufacturer an apple vs google war. Most Apple fans I know are equally open to Google also. It's called healthy competition.
1) I?m pretty sure ILoveFootball is the new name for NonVendorFan, also previously known as SeahawkFan. Which means your advice to have fun just isn?t going to happen with such an angry person.
2) This phone, like the Zune, will be compared to Apple?s products but will only eat profit and marketshare from other companies.
Hmm, I was just thinking of adding that user name to my ignore list along with nonvendor fan, thanks for the heads up.
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Originally Posted by solipsism
1) I?m pretty sure ILoveFootball is the new name for NonVendorFan, also previously known as SeahawkFan. Which means your advice to have fun just isn?t going to happen with such an angry person.
2) This phone, like the Zune, will be compared to Apple?s products but will only eat profit and marketshare from other companies.
Here's my question to you. The phone hasn't really been reviewed by any of the major sites, much less the average user. How do you know that the iPhone is the "better" phone of the two for you personally?
I'm a bit annoyed with people do this when they haven't had the chance to actually use the other device. Let it go on sale, play with it, and then if it's truly worse, then it's worse.
That's simple.
First and foremost I'm a Mac user. The iPhone is rock solid with the Mac so everything just plain works whereas the Android requires several additional programs.
Second, I've seen enough of the two interfaces to know that I like both but I still give the iPhone the edge.
Third, Currently there are more useable apps available for the iPhone although that will likely change.
So for me I still would prefer the iPhone but could accept the Android at least for now.
I just wish that Apple would announce when they would make the iPhone available to Verizon but we know they won't. Personally I think it's in their best interest to do so as it would take some of the wind out of Androids sails because there are many that would likely wait if they knew for sure the iPhone was coming next June or July. Without that knowledge many will likely move to the Droid.
What I don't want to do is switch to AT&T, thus loosing my 15 year seniority with Verizon, then have the iPhone come out next Summer. Since I've not done a phone upgraded for 5 even if I get a Droid now I fairly sure I can get Verizon to give me the iPhone at the lower price next summer.
Yes you have to understand the conditions to understand why one is getting better battery life. It has nothing directly to do with iPhone and Android.
CDMA phones are able to get better battery life than GSM phones because CDMA cannot do voice and data at the same time, while GSM does.
The problem with that kind of reasoning is that the chipsets are no longer the biggest energy suckers now --- it's been the LCD screen for a long time.
The problem with that kind of reasoning is that the chipsets are no longer the biggest energy suckers now --- it's been the LCD screen for a long time.
That is illogical. Not being the largest power drain on a system doesn?t mean that it doesn?t have an affect. iPhones running in EDGE(2G) mode will drain faster than phones running on WCDMA(3G). That disproves your implication that CDMA-based phones are on equal ground with GSM-based phones both running on 3G.
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I said as much. Where exactly did I state that Flash shouldn?t be on the iPhone simply because I don?t want it? I never speak in those terms. I talk about what works for me, and technical, political and financial reasons why something may or may not happen in the tech world.
Granted you didn't, and you are indeed quite careful with your wording. I was just a bit thrown off by that all caps sentence. Quite uncharacteristic (at least from what I've seen).
Postulant - I'm using clicktoflash because flash is dreadful on the Mac (and probably just as bad on Linux). I look forward to the day when I can fully browse the internet without propriety plug-ins. Maybe in my lifetime...
FACT: No Such Implication Made
1) I mention the inability to play Hulu?s Flash videos.
2) You comment that many smartphones support browser-based Flash.
I changed my previous post. It does sound like you are saying there are phones can play flash video. Perhaps I?m just overly hopeful that it?s true.
Postulant - I'm using clicktoflash because flash is dreadful on the Mac (and probably just as bad on Linux). I look forward to the day when I can fully browse the internet without propriety plug-ins. Maybe in my lifetime...
Yep, i'm using ClicktoFlash as well...
Postulant - I'm using clicktoflash because flash is dreadful on the Mac (and probably just as bad on Linux). I look forward to the day when I can fully browse the internet without propriety plug-ins. Maybe in my lifetime...
Could be an “out of the frying pan, into the fire” situation. Right now, we have ClickToFlash so we turn off the Ads easy since the annoying ones are Flash based. The simple JPEGs and GIFs are not big deal.
But if Flash gets replace with HTML/CSS/JS, especially using CPU heavy features like HTML5’s Canvas, we will require a much more intelligent system to disable these ads. Some of the new HTML5 stuff is cool but it can run your CPU higher than Flash currently does.
If you have Safari 4 you can open up Activity Monitor to see Safari CPU usage. I forget what version of Firefox is needed.
Slightly thicker than an iPhone. Am I the only one that doesn't care how thin this thing is? Is this really a feature that anyone cares about?
I do. I can easily slip my iPhone in my pocket. If I tried that with my Treo people would think I was happy to see them or something
Give me more battery life.
I can get a day out the iPhone easily. I have a charger in my car that I rarely use, and I have speakers with a dock connector at my desk where my iPhone generally sets as soon as I get into work. But even on the move as I am these days, iPhone battery life isn't an issue for me. I never understood the desire to have a phone that could run a week on a battery - is it really that hard to plug it in at night? For me, not really since I have a dock equipped clock radio and I use a white noise app while I sleep. I think Apple made a good compromise in the iPhone design and I really enjoy not having to have a holster or some other phone carrier.
OK, you can't be too rich or too thin, but really, who wants to talk into a credit card?
But it's not a credit card. It's not overly thin (that would be the iPod Touch - yow!) or thick. It's a compromise and a darn functional one.
And for the few times I need more juice, I use the $24 (from Costco) Sanyo Eneloop universal battery pack that will charge any USB device (even my work *gag* blackberry).
But the cars are getting bigger. Honda Accord used to be classified as a mid size car, but now it is classified as a full size family sedan. Bigger car, longer leg room --- you redesign the seats a little bit --- you don't need the car to get taller to get comfortable.
It's not as comfortable getting in and out for one thing. Two door cars are a real pain as they get lower.
Testing has found the Droid to successfully attain over 6 hours+ before requiring a recharge, which is far better than my iPhone 3GS (by more than 1.5 hours) even though my iPhone lacks (user defined) multi-tasking, and a display supporting some 2.69 times the screen resolution.
Are you trying to pitch the Droid as being able to get 6+ hours of battery life with multiple apps simultaneously running in the background?
Really?...
Google also announced their music plan today, seems most missed it in the hype of Droid.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/28...-in-hollywood/
Partnered with
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/28...pace-and-lala/
Regarding the maps app
Article Name
Google Should Make Apple Beg For Maps Navigation
Link
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/28...ps-navigation/
Where's the cool factor?
Google has
Navigation
Books
OS
Mobile OS
Music Partners
Search
Browser
Email
Cloud Apps for Business and Los Angeles Ca signed on as a Google Partner over Microsoft today (30,00 city employees)
http://www.komonews.com/news/tech/66928257.html
You really don't think that today was a planned out?
Here's what Times Square will look like
Article Name
Verizon Wireless to take over Times Square with the Motorola DROID
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/...otorola-droid/
Apple got a good Bitch Slapped today... How will they respond? Allow all of Googles apps onto the iPhone?
Might as well put a Google Logo on it at that point.
I don't want to hear about next June and the new iPhone.
I want to know why I shouldn't buy Droid on November 6th?
Busy day for Google. You Really Don't think all of this was planned? Steve needs to resign if he didn't see this coming.
Are you trying to pitch the Droid as being able to get 6+ hours of battery life with multiple apps simultaneously running in the background?
I'm not 'pitching' anything, as I have no vested interest one way or another.
Question: Do the conditions under which the device achieved that (talk) time really matter when a 'certain competitor' can't approach that kind of battery autonomy even with everything (save the phone function) disabled?
No need to answer... They Don't
No, the prices are not fixed. The link you have post it's not about price fixing, it's about raising prices after regulating call billing. It was changed from rounding to the upper minute to having to account only the second you use and the all the companies raised their price per second but they don't have the same price.
At Movistar I was payiing 0.18 ?/min, now I'm paying 0.08?/min.
Mmm, I'm not talking about which screen is better, I'm talking about screen aspect ratios.
Allow me to cordially Welcome You To the 21st Century where actual wide-screen aspect ratios reign supreme
CDMA phones are able to get better battery life than GSM phones because CDMA cannot do voice and data at the same time, while GSM does.
I'm not 'pitching' anything, as I have no vested interest one way or another.
Question: Do the conditions under which the device achieved that (talk) time really matter when a 'certain competitor' can't approach that kind of battery autonomy even with everything (save the phone function) disabled?
No need to answer... They Don't
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As for your constant ranting about 'streaming' video - streaming video is possible on almost any phone, but is essentially made moot when one can receive live video broadcast (no Wifi required) on phones like the HTC Imagio with better video quality, and far less battery drain.
Apple is putting an iPhone app in the store that is Google's new music store.
I wonder why Google planned all of this for one day?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...earch-launched
The Apple Store App waiting for approval.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/28...ng-iphone-app/
This is the one thing Apple has over just about every other device out there with exception of maybe the Zune and that didn't really work MSFT either.
I don't know, Google is just a data mining company anyway.
I don't want to hear about next June and the new iPhone.
I want to know why I shouldn't buy Droid on November 6th?
Busy day for Google. You Really Don't think all of this was planned? Steve needs to resign if he didn't see this coming.
You don't need a reason to do anything just go and buy what you want and have fun.
Do you think Apple need to bring out a new phone everytime a competitor does and since when was Steve Jobs the all seeing all knowing god of the technology world? You can't stifle progress and I'd rather have Google/apple in competition than the pathetic offerings from Microsoft over the last decade or so.
Whist your trolling I might add that your wasting your time trying to manufacturer an apple vs google war. Most Apple fans I know are equally open to Google also. It's called healthy competition.
You don't need a reason to do anything just go and buy what you want and have fun.
Do you think Apple need to bring out a new phone everytime a competitor does and since when was Steve Jobs the all seeing all knowing god of the technology world? You can't stifle progress and I'd rather have Google/apple in competition than the pathetic offerings from Microsoft over the last decade or so.
Whist your trolling I might add that your wasting your time trying to manufacturer an apple vs google war. Most Apple fans I know are equally open to Google also. It's called healthy competition.
1) I?m pretty sure ILoveFootball is the new name for NonVendorFan, also previously known as SeahawkFan. Which means your advice to have fun just isn?t going to happen with such an angry person.
2) This phone, like the Zune, will be compared to Apple?s products but will only eat profit and marketshare from other companies.
1) I?m pretty sure ILoveFootball is the new name for NonVendorFan, also previously known as SeahawkFan. Which means your advice to have fun just isn?t going to happen with such an angry person.
2) This phone, like the Zune, will be compared to Apple?s products but will only eat profit and marketshare from other companies.
Here's my question to you. The phone hasn't really been reviewed by any of the major sites, much less the average user. How do you know that the iPhone is the "better" phone of the two for you personally?
I'm a bit annoyed with people do this when they haven't had the chance to actually use the other device. Let it go on sale, play with it, and then if it's truly worse, then it's worse.
That's simple.
First and foremost I'm a Mac user. The iPhone is rock solid with the Mac so everything just plain works whereas the Android requires several additional programs.
Second, I've seen enough of the two interfaces to know that I like both but I still give the iPhone the edge.
Third, Currently there are more useable apps available for the iPhone although that will likely change.
So for me I still would prefer the iPhone but could accept the Android at least for now.
I just wish that Apple would announce when they would make the iPhone available to Verizon but we know they won't. Personally I think it's in their best interest to do so as it would take some of the wind out of Androids sails because there are many that would likely wait if they knew for sure the iPhone was coming next June or July. Without that knowledge many will likely move to the Droid.
What I don't want to do is switch to AT&T, thus loosing my 15 year seniority with Verizon, then have the iPhone come out next Summer. Since I've not done a phone upgraded for 5 even if I get a Droid now I fairly sure I can get Verizon to give me the iPhone at the lower price next summer.
Yes you have to understand the conditions to understand why one is getting better battery life. It has nothing directly to do with iPhone and Android.
CDMA phones are able to get better battery life than GSM phones because CDMA cannot do voice and data at the same time, while GSM does.
The problem with that kind of reasoning is that the chipsets are no longer the biggest energy suckers now --- it's been the LCD screen for a long time.
The problem with that kind of reasoning is that the chipsets are no longer the biggest energy suckers now --- it's been the LCD screen for a long time.
That is illogical. Not being the largest power drain on a system doesn?t mean that it doesn?t have an affect. iPhones running in EDGE(2G) mode will drain faster than phones running on WCDMA(3G). That disproves your implication that CDMA-based phones are on equal ground with GSM-based phones both running on 3G.