It's hard to respond to something that's a failed argument (hint you) at least your name makes up for your lack of argument against Apple & Steve.
When your defending a INSANELY GREAT COMPANY you can defend on there behalf much easier. That's why Trolls and other misinformed individuals say/make arguments and leave without backing them up.
Notice how Zep was quiet once I began to answer how apple has Innovated and helped the tech the music and movie industry (Steve actually did the latter instead of Apple)
It's hard to respond to something that's a failed argument (hint you) at least your name makes up for your lack of argument against Apple & Steve.
When your defending a INSANELY GREAT COMPANY you can defend on there behalf much easier. That's why Trolls and other misinformed individuals say/make arguments and leave without backing them up.
Notice how Zep was quiet once I began to answer how apple has Innovated and helped the tech the music and movie industry (Steve actually did the latter instead of Apple)
its called having a job. you know work.
i dont deny anything he's done, but they still cant make a mouse thats worth a crap compared to logitech/microsoft. (even tho saving apple meant partnering with microsoft and getting boo'd on stage)
besides, arguing with you is like arguing with a zealot. no matter what anyone says, you're always going to say (to paraphrase) "all hail mighty steve and apple. they can do no wrong!" i bet i could show you a picture of the sky being blue, but if apple said it was orange, you wouldnt believe the picture. so whats the point?
i dont deny anything he's done, but they still cant make a mouse thats worth a crap compared to logitech/microsoft. (even tho saving apple meant partnering with microsoft and getting boo'd on stage)
besides, arguing with you is like arguing with a zealot. no matter what anyone says, you're always going to say (to paraphrase) "all hail mighty steve and apple. they can do no wrong!" i bet i could show you a picture of the sky being blue, but if apple said it was orange, you wouldnt believe it. so whats the point?
Not true, but lets squash it. Maybe in another forum in a Galaxy Far Far Away, we can agree on something and your attitude will be much less bitter towards Apple.
iDo work, but fortunately iCan get paid being mobile and doing fun things Like RE and Writing programs. To each his own, and I will never bash hard work.
Would not have predicted this in a million years. I actually opted for the old wireless mouse (mighty mouse) because I found the new one (magic mouse) to be much worse, with the exeption of the scroll wheel of course (which is a big deal, but not so much so that I would go for a flat mouse that hurts my hand after prolonged use). I guess I have different hands then those that bought and rated this thing.
Not true, but lets squash it. Maybe in another forum in a Galaxy Far Far Away, we can agree on something and your attitude will be much less bitter towards Apple.
iDo work, but fortunately iCan get paid being mobile and doing fun things Like RE and Writing programs. To each his own, and I will never bash hard work.
Thats why my name is MOBILE ME
its not bitterness towards apple. its bitterness towards the zealotry of most of the apple product users. anytime anyone says anything against apple, founded or not, its instant heresy. you're guilty of it the most, quadra is next.
also, the i<insert word here> is annoying and overdone.
Most personal preference would have 2 buttons over one. ...
You kinda missed my point a bit.
Ireland was saying that Apple's two button mice should have two physical buttons, that not enabling the second button by default was similarly wrong, and implying that this was all somehow due to just plain bloody-mindedness by Apple. That this setup had no purpose other than to be different or just to screw people around.
I was merely pointing out that Apple's decision in that regard (to not have two *physical* buttons on their two button mice, and to not enable the second button by default), was actually based on a lot of research and had a factual basis.
It is without question that "beginner" computer users find a one button mouse easier to understand and use. Switchers and more advanced users like the second button (or third of fourth in some cases), but they tend to know where to look to enable the second button.
Apple's position is that the second button is "discoverable" by those that need it and it's hard to argue that it isn't. They could make it more obvious there is a second button by marking it on the mouse in some way, but then that would again confuse the beginner users who are the people you don't want to confuse and who generally prefer the single button. It's a very logical setup when you think of it. It's simple for the beginners, doesn't leave out anything for the advanced users, and is completely "discoverable."
Ireland (and people like them), that get upset over the lack of the second button are usually just those who didn't bother to look in the control panel, and didn't realise that all Mac mice are two button mice.
Thus they feel dumb, and they lash out at others to cover up their feelings of inadequacy.
its not bitterness towards apple. its bitterness towards the zealotry of most of the apple product users. anytime anyone says anything against apple, founded or not, its instant heresy. you're guilty of it the most, quadra is next.
also, the i<insert word here> is annoying and overdone.
And I thought Quadra 610 was annoying in his Apple praise...
I foresaw this coming, and when the started blabbing on and on when he first joined, I called him out and got a strike or whatever it was. Dumb, I completely enjoy apple products too from Iphone to my Macbook to the iMac thats in the mail right now, but this guy is downright annoying. Just tone your shit down.
I guess you must have a Magic Mouse and used it extensively to able to arrive at such a stern conclusion. I personally do not remember seeing any mouse that features a multi-touch surface other than Apple's new mouse, if you do can you share a link?
Multi-touch is an Apple exclusive technology. People not familiar with iPod Touches, iPhones, and Mac laptop touch pads- have never used two or more fingers to make gestures on a surface to interact with a device or machine. As strange as it sounds this is simply not anything anyone will have experience outside Apple products - and some will not be able to adapt or have longer learning curves than others when they try an Apple product.
Magic Mouse does not bill itself as a gaming mouse - this is a general do everything mouse in a new and innovative way.
The reason why Apple is in solid financial shape to make investments in R&D, key acquisitions, retain key talent and pursue new talent, enter into new markets - Apple makes money selling their mice (computers, iPods, iPhone, remote) and does not need to be the number one seller in any category they compete in. The top selling manufacturers have something Apple does not - razor thin margins and price wars that make these competitor products a commodity or a race to the bottom. In business it is all about margins and being able to maintain high margins compared to the industry by differentiating your brand.
The dismissing of posters seems overly antagonistic, MobileMe.
I have a hard time believing even Steve wants this guy on his side. Well...as far as i'm concerned, from now on im just gonna scroll right passed the huge rainbow of words.
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Shouldnt need to wait for it to evolve...it should be here already
You're Dismissed Sir ... Please put your cigarette out while you're exiting.
You're Dismissed Sir ... Please put your cigarette out while your exiting.
Awww...no retort other than that?
Awww...no retort other than that?
It's hard to respond to something that's a failed argument (hint you) at least your name makes up for your lack of argument against Apple & Steve.
When your defending a INSANELY GREAT COMPANY you can defend on there behalf much easier. That's why Trolls and other misinformed individuals say/make arguments and leave without backing them up.
Notice how Zep was quiet once I began to answer how apple has Innovated and helped the tech the music and movie industry (Steve actually did the latter instead of Apple)
It's hard to respond to something that's a failed argument (hint you) at least your name makes up for your lack of argument against Apple & Steve.
When your defending a INSANELY GREAT COMPANY you can defend on there behalf much easier. That's why Trolls and other misinformed individuals say/make arguments and leave without backing them up.
Notice how Zep was quiet once I began to answer how apple has Innovated and helped the tech the music and movie industry (Steve actually did the latter instead of Apple)
its called having a job. you know work.
i dont deny anything he's done, but they still cant make a mouse thats worth a crap compared to logitech/microsoft. (even tho saving apple meant partnering with microsoft and getting boo'd on stage)
besides, arguing with you is like arguing with a zealot. no matter what anyone says, you're always going to say (to paraphrase) "all hail mighty steve and apple. they can do no wrong!" i bet i could show you a picture of the sky being blue, but if apple said it was orange, you wouldnt believe the picture. so whats the point?
its called having a job. you know work.
i dont deny anything he's done, but they still cant make a mouse thats worth a crap compared to logitech/microsoft. (even tho saving apple meant partnering with microsoft and getting boo'd on stage)
besides, arguing with you is like arguing with a zealot. no matter what anyone says, you're always going to say (to paraphrase) "all hail mighty steve and apple. they can do no wrong!" i bet i could show you a picture of the sky being blue, but if apple said it was orange, you wouldnt believe it. so whats the point?
Not true, but lets squash it. Maybe in another forum in a Galaxy Far Far Away, we can agree on something and your attitude will be much less bitter towards Apple.
iDo work, but fortunately iCan get paid being mobile and doing fun things Like RE and Writing programs. To each his own, and I will never bash hard work.
Thats why my name is MOBILE ME
Not true, but lets squash it. Maybe in another forum in a Galaxy Far Far Away, we can agree on something and your attitude will be much less bitter towards Apple.
iDo work, but fortunately iCan get paid being mobile and doing fun things Like RE and Writing programs. To each his own, and I will never bash hard work.
Thats why my name is MOBILE ME
its not bitterness towards apple. its bitterness towards the zealotry of most of the apple product users. anytime anyone says anything against apple, founded or not, its instant heresy. you're guilty of it the most, quadra is next.
also, the i<insert word here> is annoying and overdone.
Most personal preference would have 2 buttons over one. ...
You kinda missed my point a bit.
Ireland was saying that Apple's two button mice should have two physical buttons, that not enabling the second button by default was similarly wrong, and implying that this was all somehow due to just plain bloody-mindedness by Apple. That this setup had no purpose other than to be different or just to screw people around.
I was merely pointing out that Apple's decision in that regard (to not have two *physical* buttons on their two button mice, and to not enable the second button by default), was actually based on a lot of research and had a factual basis.
It is without question that "beginner" computer users find a one button mouse easier to understand and use. Switchers and more advanced users like the second button (or third of fourth in some cases), but they tend to know where to look to enable the second button.
Apple's position is that the second button is "discoverable" by those that need it and it's hard to argue that it isn't. They could make it more obvious there is a second button by marking it on the mouse in some way, but then that would again confuse the beginner users who are the people you don't want to confuse and who generally prefer the single button. It's a very logical setup when you think of it. It's simple for the beginners, doesn't leave out anything for the advanced users, and is completely "discoverable."
Ireland (and people like them), that get upset over the lack of the second button are usually just those who didn't bother to look in the control panel, and didn't realise that all Mac mice are two button mice.
Thus they feel dumb, and they lash out at others to cover up their feelings of inadequacy.
Yes. The Magic Mouse is garbage. It may even be worse than the Mighty Mouse. They haven't made a good mouse since the ADB II.
Agreed.
The Magic Mouse is one of the worst i've used. It's too small to rest the hand on > puts enormous amount of strain on the wrist.
My wife has small hands... so she's ok with it. For me however... more Apple Fail.
its not bitterness towards apple. its bitterness towards the zealotry of most of the apple product users. anytime anyone says anything against apple, founded or not, its instant heresy. you're guilty of it the most, quadra is next.
also, the i<insert word here> is annoying and overdone.
none.
Agreed.
The Magic Mouse is one of the worst i've used. It's too small to rest the hand on > puts enormous amount of strain on the wrist.
My wife has small hands... so she's ok with it. For me however... more Apple Fail.
none.
And I thought Quadra 610 was annoying in his Apple praise...
I foresaw this coming, and when the started blabbing on and on when he first joined, I called him out and got a strike or whatever it was. Dumb, I completely enjoy apple products too from Iphone to my Macbook to the iMac thats in the mail right now, but this guy is downright annoying. Just tone your shit down.
You're dismissed also Zep.
The dismissing of posters seems overly antagonistic, MobileMe.
I guess you must have a Magic Mouse and used it extensively to able to arrive at such a stern conclusion. I personally do not remember seeing any mouse that features a multi-touch surface other than Apple's new mouse, if you do can you share a link?
Multi-touch is an Apple exclusive technology. People not familiar with iPod Touches, iPhones, and Mac laptop touch pads- have never used two or more fingers to make gestures on a surface to interact with a device or machine. As strange as it sounds this is simply not anything anyone will have experience outside Apple products - and some will not be able to adapt or have longer learning curves than others when they try an Apple product.
Magic Mouse does not bill itself as a gaming mouse - this is a general do everything mouse in a new and innovative way.
The reason why Apple is in solid financial shape to make investments in R&D, key acquisitions, retain key talent and pursue new talent, enter into new markets - Apple makes money selling their mice (computers, iPods, iPhone, remote) and does not need to be the number one seller in any category they compete in. The top selling manufacturers have something Apple does not - razor thin margins and price wars that make these competitor products a commodity or a race to the bottom. In business it is all about margins and being able to maintain high margins compared to the industry by differentiating your brand.
The dismissing of posters seems overly antagonistic, MobileMe.
I have a hard time believing even Steve wants this guy on his side. Well...as far as i'm concerned, from now on im just gonna scroll right passed the huge rainbow of words.
The dismissing of posters seems overly antagonistic, MobileMe.
it really just proved my point. im done with him. he's on my ignore list now.
The dismissing of posters seems overly antagonistic, MobileMe.
at least he's using 'you're' instead of 'your' now. agreed though.