What does what you wrote have to do with anything I said? Most people need/use a notebook. Most people need/use a phone. Getting someone to pay close to $1000 for a compromise between a MacBook (lack of keyboard, lack of power, likely a lack of full OS X) and an iPhone (lack of pocketability) is a tall order.
Compromise?? How can you say the product is a compromise when it hasn't even been introduced and you don't even truly know what it does?
For all you know, after January 27th, most people may need/use a Mac Tablet.
Compromise?? How can you say the product is a compromise when it hasn't even been introduced and you don't even truly know what it does?
For all you know, after January 27th, most people may need/use a Mac Tablet.
If it is as powerful as even a standard dual-core MacBook, comes with a physical keyboard, and fits in my pocket, I will personally kiss your hairy ass
The law of supply and demand might suggest a price significantly higher than $700 in the beginning when supplies are limited. Apple doesn't participate in the "race to the bottom" like other manufacturers anyway. Since the price for technology drops an average 1% per week, a $700 price point could be realized rather soon even if initial production costs are nearly this high. If Apple also seeks the rumored subsidies from content providers, this should also help drive down the hardware cost as increasing numbers of providers sign up.
Consumers are reluctant to pay over $700 for a laptop, or for a desktop. And yet, Apple is selling well. Why? Because when you just name a $$ figure, then $$ is all that matters. When you attach a dollar-figure to an actual product, sometimes people turn around and say, ?Wow, that IS worth it.? And no doubt some don't.
But all AI (and others) have been doing for years is prepping people for unrealistically low prices. There's gonna be a LOT of unhappy people when it's unveiled, because they'll feel like it costs higher than they were ?promised.?
The law of supply and demand might suggest a price significantly higher than $700 in the beginning when supplies for a new device are scarce. Apple doesn't participate in the "race to the bottom" like other manufacturers anyway. Since the price for technology drops an average 1% per week, a $700 price point could be realized rather soon even if initial production costs are nearly this high.
agreed, it will seem to be overpriced at first regardless and then Apple will gradually lower the price as they take economies of scale into effect.
I'll wait for Rev 2 because then more bugs will be worked out and new direction and features added.
I'll stick to my £300 price point. I can't see it being that cheap, but the problem is what would you actually use it for that's going to justify the price? In the same way as not many people justifying the price of Apple TV compared to just having DVD's.
I also don't see why people can't put a value on it before they've seen it. End of the day it's a tablet, you think how much would I pay for a tablet, and then how much more would I pay for it to have an Apple logo on it? Look at the survey 65% of people interested in this thing don't even care what it does, but irrespective of that they still want it. That says a lot about the people that are going to buy this thing. End of the day it looks like this 65% of people want the next Apple product and will buy it whatever it is as long as they can afford it.
If it is as powerful as even a standard dual-core MacBook, comes with a physical keyboard, and fits in my pocket, I will personally kiss your hairy ass
The problem with your thinking is that you are trying to put an unknown/unreleased product into a category which already exists.. What if this device creates or defines an entirely new product category?
My thinking is that I'm gonna hold off until I actually see what it does before I determine that it's too expensive or a compromise.
The iPhone is actually over $500 if you buy one new, not subsidized by a phone carrier.
If this tablet isn't subsidized, I don't care how many features it has, I wouldn't pay over $500 for it.
$700? Really? This thing is going to be shoved around on coffee tables, taken outdoors, into the bathroom and unlike a laptop it doesn't fold shut to protect it. I couldn't stand the thought of accidentally dropping a $700 piece of electronic glass.
These kind of surveys are absolutely worthless and completely non-scientific. They are not worth the e-paper they are printed on and not worth discussing.
If people don't see the huge logical flaws involved in asking these kinds of questions, in the way that they are being asked, at the time that they are being asked, then they need their heads examined. Useless survey, producing useless data that has no probative value.
little hard to say how much a device is worth without knowing what it does
Not at all. The market, or rather hypothetical market, for this device is quite clear. It's not a replacement for either of the major gadgets, computer or smartphone. It's an inbetweenie, that can do many things that the other two cannot. Without knowing a thing about it, we can still accurately pinpoint what it will do, and what it might do....
... And none of those add up to a device that would sell well over $800.
And it could sell out of control at $600.
I still maintain the 64 gb model will be $599 and a premium 128 gb model will command $749
Here's the way I see it. If it's too big to fit in my pocket, then I'll have to throw it in a briefcase or bag. And if I need a bag to put it in, why wouldn't I just bring along my 13" MacBook Pro?
So this thing had better either make me pancakes or Be priced halfway between a 32GB iPhone and a MacBook.
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What does what you wrote have to do with anything I said? Most people need/use a notebook. Most people need/use a phone. Getting someone to pay close to $1000 for a compromise between a MacBook (lack of keyboard, lack of power, likely a lack of full OS X) and an iPhone (lack of pocketability) is a tall order.
Compromise?? How can you say the product is a compromise when it hasn't even been introduced and you don't even truly know what it does?
For all you know, after January 27th, most people may need/use a Mac Tablet.
It's understandable. I spent $1100+ on my MacBook Pro, $300 on my iPhone 3GS... I'd be reluctant to spend another grand no matter how good it is.
Apple can only dip into the money well for so long...
Agreed, it has to give appropriate value for the price and solve a need for widespread adoption to occur.
I didn't buy a iPod Touch or iPhone because I already have a iPod Classic, a MacBook Pro and a inexpensive cell phone that solves my needs.
I might buy this new device, just to get at the App Store apps, if it solves a need.
Compromise?? How can you say the product is a compromise when it hasn't even been introduced and you don't even truly know what it does?
For all you know, after January 27th, most people may need/use a Mac Tablet.
If it is as powerful as even a standard dual-core MacBook, comes with a physical keyboard, and fits in my pocket, I will personally kiss your hairy ass
But all AI (and others) have been doing for years is prepping people for unrealistically low prices. There's gonna be a LOT of unhappy people when it's unveiled, because they'll feel like it costs higher than they were ?promised.?
sure. I'll pay $700 for a myth.
No, make it an even thousand!
What is with articles like this?
Announce it, let us look at the specs, then ask.
amen!!
You have no idea what you're talking about....
You might as well explain.
SURE. I'll pay $700 for a myth.
NO, make it an even thousand!
WHAT is with articles like this?
Announce it, let us look at the specs, THEN ask.
NO feature spec is worth more than $700. For just a few hundred more you can get a Macbook for crying out loud.
Is there a real gap that this would fill that can be worth more than $700?
REMEMBER THE NEWTON and how it flopped almost exclusively because of price.
While consumer interest in Apple's forthcoming tablet is high, a price north of $700 could turn off many potential buyers, a new survey has found.
Yeah.
$700 = exact amount of Apple gift cards I have!
The law of supply and demand might suggest a price significantly higher than $700 in the beginning when supplies for a new device are scarce. Apple doesn't participate in the "race to the bottom" like other manufacturers anyway. Since the price for technology drops an average 1% per week, a $700 price point could be realized rather soon even if initial production costs are nearly this high.
agreed, it will seem to be overpriced at first regardless and then Apple will gradually lower the price as they take economies of scale into effect.
I'll wait for Rev 2 because then more bugs will be worked out and new direction and features added.
I also don't see why people can't put a value on it before they've seen it. End of the day it's a tablet, you think how much would I pay for a tablet, and then how much more would I pay for it to have an Apple logo on it? Look at the survey 65% of people interested in this thing don't even care what it does, but irrespective of that they still want it. That says a lot about the people that are going to buy this thing. End of the day it looks like this 65% of people want the next Apple product and will buy it whatever it is as long as they can afford it.
If it is as powerful as even a standard dual-core MacBook, comes with a physical keyboard, and fits in my pocket, I will personally kiss your hairy ass
The problem with your thinking is that you are trying to put an unknown/unreleased product into a category which already exists.. What if this device creates or defines an entirely new product category?
My thinking is that I'm gonna hold off until I actually see what it does before I determine that it's too expensive or a compromise.
BTW: My bum is smooth
It'll be a new gadget so Apple will pitch it high at first. Remember the iPhone folks.
But hopefully, Apple learned something too, from that episode?
If this tablet isn't subsidized, I don't care how many features it has, I wouldn't pay over $500 for it.
$700? Really? This thing is going to be shoved around on coffee tables, taken outdoors, into the bathroom and unlike a laptop it doesn't fold shut to protect it. I couldn't stand the thought of accidentally dropping a $700 piece of electronic glass.
If people don't see the huge logical flaws involved in asking these kinds of questions, in the way that they are being asked, at the time that they are being asked, then they need their heads examined. Useless survey, producing useless data that has no probative value.
End of the day it's a tablet, you think how much would I pay for a tablet, and then how much more would I pay for it to have an Apple logo on it?
Is the iPhone just a RAZR with an Apple logo on it? Or do you know something about the unannounced "tablet" the rest of us don't?
little hard to say how much a device is worth without knowing what it does
Not at all. The market, or rather hypothetical market, for this device is quite clear. It's not a replacement for either of the major gadgets, computer or smartphone. It's an inbetweenie, that can do many things that the other two cannot. Without knowing a thing about it, we can still accurately pinpoint what it will do, and what it might do....
... And none of those add up to a device that would sell well over $800.
And it could sell out of control at $600.
I still maintain the 64 gb model will be $599 and a premium 128 gb model will command $749
So this thing had better either make me pancakes or Be priced halfway between a 32GB iPhone and a MacBook.
There's gonna be a LOT of unhappy people when it's unveiled, because they'll feel like it costs higher than they were ?promised.?
Spot on!
Can't wait for the moaning and groaning to start at exactly 11:00:01 PST on the 27th of Jan!
Useless survey, producing useless data that has no probative value.
It's not useless. Just don't over-interpret it in the manner investment bankers over-interpreted their credit default statistics.