This is the writing on the wall, I agree. But just think what Apple could do with Adobe if they DID own it. An Apple run Adobe would be an amazing company!
I think they'd be a gigantic boat anchor. Large mergers inevitably end up also being mergers of corporate cultures. Adobe's culture is trampling up and down the same well-beaten path. Apple could not easily change that just by owning them, not in many years of trying. The long term danger is Adobe's culture infecting Apple's culture as much as the other way around.
Well that's kind of awful. They make it sound like 1024x768 is some kind of Mac thing. They completely fail to mention that it's the XGA standard and has been around for 20 years or so.
What? Do you mean the Computer World article that has this line?
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Those who have used computers for a while will recognize the old "golden mean" of pixel resolution in the iPad's 1024x768 display.
First line of second paragraph. That line seems to contradict your impression, they acknowledge it almost right away.
I am a bit surprised with 4:3 though, it would seem that 1.5:1 would be a better compromise, it's not too far from standard paper (~1.3:1), not too far from standard wide screen video (1.77:1), and right on for most dSLR cameras (1.5:1), and there are still plenty of good old TV shows in 4:3 (1.33:1) that are worth watching. I know some people would still complain if it's any less than 16:9, but 16:9 would also generally be way too narrow to work with in portrait mode.
Jobs is absolutely right. Especially about Flash. YouTube and Vimeo are already transitioning to HTML5.
Yeah everyone is transitioning to HTML 5...except for team Internet Explorer, who enjoys more than half of web browser market share. Good or bad, we'll be watching Flash video for a long time, and Apple should allow us the ability to see flash - at least for video content - on their devices. It's still the most effective way to publish video on the web.
What? Do you mean the Computer World article that has this line?
The point is, with all of the talk about the "golden mean" and the display resolution of early iMacs they neglect to mention the simple fact that this is the XGA standard. It's not just alphabet soup. If you buy a projector, it's probably going to be XGA. Some have higher resolutions, but still mostly at the same ratio. VGA is also the same h/w ratio. For better or worse, Apple has adhered to a common standard with the iPad, not done something weird just to be different, like they do so often. I think they over-analyzed and missed the most basic fact.
No.But look at their gross margin at look at the history of the iPod- it certainly became a cash cow conduit for selling music, etc and at a fixed price which Apple now hypocritically bemoans that Amazon is doing presently with book pricing.
Wrong. iPods have generated a lot of revenue in hardware sales, but iTunes music sales haven't generated much for either Apple or content owners.
Cute little anti-Apple schtick you've got, but unfortunately completely out of touch with music retail realities. Your handle seems to self imply a better grasp of such matters.
iTunes music sales hardly even dent retail music sales before MP3s appeared and launched the whole piracy thing. Right now nobody is selling a lot of music, the number of acts producing sales and doing live tours has declined to less than 20% of what it was a decade ago, and as a result the amount of music being made has declined as well.
The only label making money right now is Rhino with older catalogs, which means the only acts making money are those with endorsement deals (very few), older catalog owners for stuff like Devo and Led Zeppelin, and a handful of big bands. iTunes (when DRM was still in place) was actually starting to generate revenue for smaller and mid sized acts & labels, but again thanks to piracy this is disappearing too. It's easy to whine about these "big corporations" and the RIAA, but all of this knowledge is 3rd hand tales that are wildly inaccurate and simplistic.
Apple has never made much money from iTunes music sales, nobody really has. Thanks to those that whine about DRM, there's less quality music in every genre, a homogenizing of styles, and no good ecosystem for developing music entertainment.
Really? In my experience, I've found that Blu-ray discs seem to be more durable than standard DVD discs.
From my PS3 experience with both games and movies, I tend to agree with you.
I'm yet to see scratched BR disk, be it a movie rental or pre-owned game. I was always reluctant to do 2nd hand DVDs, but I'm buying 2nd hand PS3 games (hard to find 1st generation titles) with confidence, after purchasing 7 of them (and seeing much more) looking brand new.
The point is, with all of the talk about the "golden mean" and the display resolution of early iMacs they neglect to mention the simple fact that this is the XGA standard. It's not just alphabet soup. If you buy a projector, it's probably going to be XGA. Some have higher resolutions, but still mostly at the same ratio. VGA is also the same h/w ratio. For better or worse, Apple has adhered to a common standard with the iPad, not done something weird just to be different, like they do so often. I think they over-analyzed and missed the most basic fact.
I suppose you're right on that. But it's not hard to buy a wide screen projector. If you buy a budget one or one made for business, yes, it's probably going to be 4:3. I just found a 1080p projector for $999 that seemed pretty good, I didn't look too hard at it yet.
I suppose you're right on that. But it's not hard to buy a wide screen projector. If you buy a budget one or one made for business, yes, it's probably going to be 4:3. I just found a 1080p projector for $999 that seemed pretty good, I didn't look too hard at it yet.
Possibly, but I've yet to see an HD projector used in any presentation I've ever watched. Most people are plugging them into their laptops.
What? Do you mean the Computer World article that has this line?
First line of second paragraph. That line seems to contradict your impression, they acknowledge it almost right away.
Did you read the article? I thought they covered it pretty well. Based on how it felt in two hands in portrait and landscape, the aspect of many books, magazines, and newspapers, etc.
Sure, wide screen movies look a little odd but overall their design choices seem to be well thought out with some compromises.
Did you read the article? I thought they covered it pretty well. Based on how it felt in two hands in portrait and landscape, the aspect of many books, magazines, and newspapers, etc.
Sure, wide screen movies look a little odd but overall their design choices seem to be well thought out with some compromises.
I did read the article, but you should understand that I as responding to specific comments made about said article. It's easy to rationalize and hypothesize why things are the way they are, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the best or they can divine the precise reason.
I also wasn't suggesting a 16:9 display, I went through the list of the range of media the device was used for and suggested that it shouldn't go hard one end or the other. But XGA probably helps keep the cost down.
Possibly, but I've yet to see an HD projector used in any presentation I've ever watched. Most people are plugging them into their laptops.
Certainly, that falls under the business use I mentioned, though I think there is some benefit for wider as the limiting factor in most rooms is often the height, especially if you factor in a table. My own video projector is widescreen, 1080p.
And yet the lack of widescreen looked pretty silly when Steve was demoing video playback. 4:3 died years ago, it's a strange move to bring it back from the dead. The ebooks angle isn't something Apple are pushing much and rightly so, as iBooks is US only and nobody in their right mind would want to read for long periods on a super bright LCD screen.
Sorry, but your dock connector argument makes no sense. It's ridulous to have to buy an adaptor just to plug a camera or flash drive in. It's just a pointless upsell from Apple so they can save a few pennies on a USB connector, nothing more.
The iPhone OS multi-tasks with Apple apps a little, but not fully. I can't, for example, fire off a text message while browsing, I still have to quit Safari. What really annoys me is when I'm playing an iPhone game and a message, be it a text, an IM, or an email comes in, and the only way to view or reply to the message is to quit the game. Not exactly a great experience. Do you have inside info that multi-tasking for all apps is coming? As I've never seen it confirmed anywhere.
NEMESIS!
I get it, I get it. You're a spoiled individual, born of the microwave generation, who can't wait for anything to evolve. This is how it's done my friend. If you can find a corporation that doesn't like to shift costs on their products or incrementally release updates so you buy a new product, please point it out. I believe it would be a novel gesture. but regretfully this is not an egalitarian, alrtuistic world. We are obligated to make profits in the corporate world which almost all of us are a part of.
The screen represents a very usable form factor. Multi-tasking is on its way and ports are quickly becoming a thing of the past especially for $500 mobil devices.
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Nah, he just stole it from one of many variations doing the rounds.
Interesting from a historical perspective this example dates from the Nocopypastus, Nonmmsian, Lackavideo era predating the current Nomultitaskian and Lackaflashian era.
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Witty timeline. Kotatsu needs to reference the evolution of the iphone and realise everything he complains about is slowly reaching market.
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Originally Posted by CU10
Apple products cost money, people don't have infinite money, staying with a Powerbook G4 is smart until i5 Macbook Pros come out, because it drops all the prices on new and used Core 2 Duos MBPs.
UGH, Yeah I know computers cost money. Do whatever you want, but there is little gained by waiting. It would only provide a marginal rate of return on your investment over upgrading to an intel chip. We're not going through the PPC to Intel switch at this point, so upgrade and gain compatibility now. The performance increase is far overshadowed by gaining compatibility with the latest software. Your biggest increase to productivity would be due to the new software and not in the case of an core2duo VS an i5 chip. I for one am a big fan of last years model for someone looking for a real value. Especially someone who's upgrading from a PPC chip. "Last years model" also makes a great "stopgap" computer for in between releases. Besides do you really want the first i5 to be used in an Apple Laptop?
Certainly, that falls under the business use I mentioned, though I think there is some benefit for wider as the limiting factor in most rooms is often the height, especially if you factor in a table. My own video projector is widescreen, 1080p.
Maybe... So when are they going to start making 16:9 screens? All the screens I've seen outside of movie theaters are virtually square.
Wrong. iPods have generated a lot of revenue in hardware sales, but iTunes music sales haven't generated much for either Apple or content owners.
Cute little anti-Apple schtick you've got, but unfortunately completely out of touch with music retail realities. Your handle seems to self imply a better grasp of such matters.
iTunes music sales hardly even dent retail music sales before MP3s appeared and launched the whole piracy thing. Right now nobody is selling a lot of music, the number of acts producing sales and doing live tours has declined to less than 20% of what it was a decade ago, and as a result the amount of music being made has declined as well.
The only label making money right now is Rhino with older catalogs, which means the only acts making money are those with endorsement deals (very few), older catalog owners for stuff like Devo and Led Zeppelin, and a handful of big bands. iTunes (when DRM was still in place) was actually starting to generate revenue for smaller and mid sized acts & labels, but again thanks to piracy this is disappearing too. It's easy to whine about these "big corporations" and the RIAA, but all of this knowledge is 3rd hand tales that are wildly inaccurate and simplistic.
Apple has never made much money from iTunes music sales, nobody really has. Thanks to those that whine about DRM, there's less quality music in every genre, a homogenizing of styles, and no good ecosystem for developing music entertainment.
Enjoy Lady Gaga, "stud".
Right Apple makes NO money off of iTunes and therefor refuses to raise the price of music for that very reason - WRONG.
I'm not sure why it is that you're getting so many scratched and unreadable discs. Believe me, though, that I haven't had a bad disc in months. Maybe it's a disgruntled postal worker in your area who likes to beat up Netflix discs for fun. But seriously though, what happens when you get new releases? Are they really beat up too? Some of the Blu-rays I get look brand-new and all play just fine. How close is your local Netflix distribution hub? Mine is about 50 miles from my house. Also, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of DVD player(s) are you trying to play these discs on?
The distance to a hub is about the same and yes, I DO have a VERY disgruntled postal worker to deal with. Seriously! Mostly I just try to stay the heck out of his way whenever he is around.
I can also say that very recent releases often show up in better shape, but not always.
I have a Sony DVD player, which will shortly morph into a Panasonic BD60 or better. The odd thing is that I can (and have) played some of the "rougher" DVD's through my MBP and they play just fine. Still bothers me though, how badly beat up the majority of these discs are when received. I have only had two cracked discs in the whole time I have used their service, but lots and lots of really scratched discs. I wonder if folks on the Netflix Blu-ray plan are receiving nicer copies?
Bottom line is that I guess people treat these rental discs a lot differently than they would if they owned them. Rather sad, but it goes with the times.
And you are positive they would not sell a few more with BR support?
That is a strawman argument. Selling a few more units doesn't equate to a higher profit in the short term or constructive business plan for the future. We could say that Mac Pros should come in a rainbow of colours because they'd likely sell a few more, but that doesn't seem like a good move to me.
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This is the writing on the wall, I agree. But just think what Apple could do with Adobe if they DID own it. An Apple run Adobe would be an amazing company!
I think they'd be a gigantic boat anchor. Large mergers inevitably end up also being mergers of corporate cultures. Adobe's culture is trampling up and down the same well-beaten path. Apple could not easily change that just by owning them, not in many years of trying. The long term danger is Adobe's culture infecting Apple's culture as much as the other way around.
I read this article which makes some interesting points about the 4:3 choice for iPad
www.computerworld.com
Well that's kind of awful. They make it sound like 1024x768 is some kind of Mac thing. They completely fail to mention that it's the XGA standard and has been around for 20 years or so.
What? Do you mean the Computer World article that has this line?
Those who have used computers for a while will recognize the old "golden mean" of pixel resolution in the iPad's 1024x768 display.
First line of second paragraph. That line seems to contradict your impression, they acknowledge it almost right away.
I am a bit surprised with 4:3 though, it would seem that 1.5:1 would be a better compromise, it's not too far from standard paper (~1.3:1), not too far from standard wide screen video (1.77:1), and right on for most dSLR cameras (1.5:1), and there are still plenty of good old TV shows in 4:3 (1.33:1) that are worth watching. I know some people would still complain if it's any less than 16:9, but 16:9 would also generally be way too narrow to work with in portrait mode.
Jobs is absolutely right. Especially about Flash. YouTube and Vimeo are already transitioning to HTML5.
Yeah everyone is transitioning to HTML 5...except for team Internet Explorer, who enjoys more than half of web browser market share. Good or bad, we'll be watching Flash video for a long time, and Apple should allow us the ability to see flash - at least for video content - on their devices. It's still the most effective way to publish video on the web.
What? Do you mean the Computer World article that has this line?
The point is, with all of the talk about the "golden mean" and the display resolution of early iMacs they neglect to mention the simple fact that this is the XGA standard. It's not just alphabet soup. If you buy a projector, it's probably going to be XGA. Some have higher resolutions, but still mostly at the same ratio. VGA is also the same h/w ratio. For better or worse, Apple has adhered to a common standard with the iPad, not done something weird just to be different, like they do so often. I think they over-analyzed and missed the most basic fact.
No.But look at their gross margin at look at the history of the iPod- it certainly became a cash cow conduit for selling music, etc and at a fixed price which Apple now hypocritically bemoans that Amazon is doing presently with book pricing.
Wrong. iPods have generated a lot of revenue in hardware sales, but iTunes music sales haven't generated much for either Apple or content owners.
Cute little anti-Apple schtick you've got, but unfortunately completely out of touch with music retail realities. Your handle seems to self imply a better grasp of such matters.
iTunes music sales hardly even dent retail music sales before MP3s appeared and launched the whole piracy thing. Right now nobody is selling a lot of music, the number of acts producing sales and doing live tours has declined to less than 20% of what it was a decade ago, and as a result the amount of music being made has declined as well.
The only label making money right now is Rhino with older catalogs, which means the only acts making money are those with endorsement deals (very few), older catalog owners for stuff like Devo and Led Zeppelin, and a handful of big bands. iTunes (when DRM was still in place) was actually starting to generate revenue for smaller and mid sized acts & labels, but again thanks to piracy this is disappearing too. It's easy to whine about these "big corporations" and the RIAA, but all of this knowledge is 3rd hand tales that are wildly inaccurate and simplistic.
Apple has never made much money from iTunes music sales, nobody really has. Thanks to those that whine about DRM, there's less quality music in every genre, a homogenizing of styles, and no good ecosystem for developing music entertainment.
Enjoy Lady Gaga, "stud".
this is the XGA standard.
That's pretty 20th century. Why did Apple choose an outmoded standard?
Wrong. the number of acts producing sales and doing live tours has declined to less than 20% of what it was a decade ago,
Do you have a cite for this? An 80% decline in acts doing live tours over ten years?
Really? In my experience, I've found that Blu-ray discs seem to be more durable than standard DVD discs.
From my PS3 experience with both games and movies, I tend to agree with you.
I'm yet to see scratched BR disk, be it a movie rental or pre-owned game. I was always reluctant to do 2nd hand DVDs, but I'm buying 2nd hand PS3 games (hard to find 1st generation titles) with confidence, after purchasing 7 of them (and seeing much more) looking brand new.
The point is, with all of the talk about the "golden mean" and the display resolution of early iMacs they neglect to mention the simple fact that this is the XGA standard. It's not just alphabet soup. If you buy a projector, it's probably going to be XGA. Some have higher resolutions, but still mostly at the same ratio. VGA is also the same h/w ratio. For better or worse, Apple has adhered to a common standard with the iPad, not done something weird just to be different, like they do so often. I think they over-analyzed and missed the most basic fact.
I suppose you're right on that. But it's not hard to buy a wide screen projector. If you buy a budget one or one made for business, yes, it's probably going to be 4:3. I just found a 1080p projector for $999 that seemed pretty good, I didn't look too hard at it yet.
I suppose you're right on that. But it's not hard to buy a wide screen projector. If you buy a budget one or one made for business, yes, it's probably going to be 4:3. I just found a 1080p projector for $999 that seemed pretty good, I didn't look too hard at it yet.
Possibly, but I've yet to see an HD projector used in any presentation I've ever watched. Most people are plugging them into their laptops.
What? Do you mean the Computer World article that has this line?
First line of second paragraph. That line seems to contradict your impression, they acknowledge it almost right away.
Did you read the article? I thought they covered it pretty well. Based on how it felt in two hands in portrait and landscape, the aspect of many books, magazines, and newspapers, etc.
Sure, wide screen movies look a little odd but overall their design choices seem to be well thought out with some compromises.
Consumer needs Flash and Bul-Ray.
They don't care about trends to HTML5.
Did you read the article? I thought they covered it pretty well. Based on how it felt in two hands in portrait and landscape, the aspect of many books, magazines, and newspapers, etc.
Sure, wide screen movies look a little odd but overall their design choices seem to be well thought out with some compromises.
I did read the article, but you should understand that I as responding to specific comments made about said article. It's easy to rationalize and hypothesize why things are the way they are, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the best or they can divine the precise reason.
I also wasn't suggesting a 16:9 display, I went through the list of the range of media the device was used for and suggested that it shouldn't go hard one end or the other. But XGA probably helps keep the cost down.
Possibly, but I've yet to see an HD projector used in any presentation I've ever watched. Most people are plugging them into their laptops.
Certainly, that falls under the business use I mentioned, though I think there is some benefit for wider as the limiting factor in most rooms is often the height, especially if you factor in a table. My own video projector is widescreen, 1080p.
Very good post!
THX. My follow up is below.
And yet the lack of widescreen looked pretty silly when Steve was demoing video playback. 4:3 died years ago, it's a strange move to bring it back from the dead. The ebooks angle isn't something Apple are pushing much and rightly so, as iBooks is US only and nobody in their right mind would want to read for long periods on a super bright LCD screen.
Sorry, but your dock connector argument makes no sense. It's ridulous to have to buy an adaptor just to plug a camera or flash drive in. It's just a pointless upsell from Apple so they can save a few pennies on a USB connector, nothing more.
The iPhone OS multi-tasks with Apple apps a little, but not fully. I can't, for example, fire off a text message while browsing, I still have to quit Safari. What really annoys me is when I'm playing an iPhone game and a message, be it a text, an IM, or an email comes in, and the only way to view or reply to the message is to quit the game. Not exactly a great experience. Do you have inside info that multi-tasking for all apps is coming? As I've never seen it confirmed anywhere.
NEMESIS!
I get it, I get it. You're a spoiled individual, born of the microwave generation, who can't wait for anything to evolve. This is how it's done my friend. If you can find a corporation that doesn't like to shift costs on their products or incrementally release updates so you buy a new product, please point it out. I believe it would be a novel gesture. but regretfully this is not an egalitarian, alrtuistic world. We are obligated to make profits in the corporate world which almost all of us are a part of.
The screen represents a very usable form factor. Multi-tasking is on its way and ports are quickly becoming a thing of the past especially for $500 mobil devices.
Nah, he just stole it from one of many variations doing the rounds.
Interesting from a historical perspective this example dates from the Nocopypastus, Nonmmsian, Lackavideo era predating the current Nomultitaskian and Lackaflashian era.
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Witty timeline. Kotatsu needs to reference the evolution of the iphone and realise everything he complains about is slowly reaching market.
UGH, Yeah I know computers cost money. Do whatever you want, but there is little gained by waiting. It would only provide a marginal rate of return on your investment over upgrading to an intel chip. We're not going through the PPC to Intel switch at this point, so upgrade and gain compatibility now. The performance increase is far overshadowed by gaining compatibility with the latest software. Your biggest increase to productivity would be due to the new software and not in the case of an core2duo VS an i5 chip. I for one am a big fan of last years model for someone looking for a real value. Especially someone who's upgrading from a PPC chip. "Last years model" also makes a great "stopgap" computer for in between releases. Besides do you really want the first i5 to be used in an Apple Laptop?
Certainly, that falls under the business use I mentioned, though I think there is some benefit for wider as the limiting factor in most rooms is often the height, especially if you factor in a table. My own video projector is widescreen, 1080p.
Maybe... So when are they going to start making 16:9 screens? All the screens I've seen outside of movie theaters are virtually square.
Wrong. iPods have generated a lot of revenue in hardware sales, but iTunes music sales haven't generated much for either Apple or content owners.
Cute little anti-Apple schtick you've got, but unfortunately completely out of touch with music retail realities. Your handle seems to self imply a better grasp of such matters.
iTunes music sales hardly even dent retail music sales before MP3s appeared and launched the whole piracy thing. Right now nobody is selling a lot of music, the number of acts producing sales and doing live tours has declined to less than 20% of what it was a decade ago, and as a result the amount of music being made has declined as well.
The only label making money right now is Rhino with older catalogs, which means the only acts making money are those with endorsement deals (very few), older catalog owners for stuff like Devo and Led Zeppelin, and a handful of big bands. iTunes (when DRM was still in place) was actually starting to generate revenue for smaller and mid sized acts & labels, but again thanks to piracy this is disappearing too. It's easy to whine about these "big corporations" and the RIAA, but all of this knowledge is 3rd hand tales that are wildly inaccurate and simplistic.
Apple has never made much money from iTunes music sales, nobody really has. Thanks to those that whine about DRM, there's less quality music in every genre, a homogenizing of styles, and no good ecosystem for developing music entertainment.
Enjoy Lady Gaga, "stud".
Right Apple makes NO money off of iTunes and therefor refuses to raise the price of music for that very reason - WRONG.
Enjoy Glambert, "hose".
I think you're getting these relationships confused.
Apple is selling more Macs in a recession (record numbers.) All without Blu-ray drives.
And you are positive they would not sell a few more with BR support?
I'm not sure why it is that you're getting so many scratched and unreadable discs. Believe me, though, that I haven't had a bad disc in months. Maybe it's a disgruntled postal worker in your area who likes to beat up Netflix discs for fun. But seriously though, what happens when you get new releases? Are they really beat up too? Some of the Blu-rays I get look brand-new and all play just fine. How close is your local Netflix distribution hub? Mine is about 50 miles from my house. Also, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of DVD player(s) are you trying to play these discs on?
The distance to a hub is about the same and yes, I DO have a VERY disgruntled postal worker to deal with. Seriously!
I can also say that very recent releases often show up in better shape, but not always.
I have a Sony DVD player, which will shortly morph into a Panasonic BD60 or better. The odd thing is that I can (and have) played some of the "rougher" DVD's through my MBP and they play just fine. Still bothers me though, how badly beat up the majority of these discs are when received. I have only had two cracked discs in the whole time I have used their service, but lots and lots of really scratched discs. I wonder if folks on the Netflix Blu-ray plan are receiving nicer copies?
Bottom line is that I guess people treat these rental discs a lot differently than they would if they owned them. Rather sad, but it goes with the times.
And you are positive they would not sell a few more with BR support?
That is a strawman argument. Selling a few more units doesn't equate to a higher profit in the short term or constructive business plan for the future. We could say that Mac Pros should come in a rainbow of colours because they'd likely sell a few more, but that doesn't seem like a good move to me.