Steve Jobs calls Flash a 'CPU hog' in meeting with WSJ - rumor

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  • Reply 281 of 291
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RussellSakay View Post


    What the heck? Real Player? You still use that? What are you looking at porn? LOL

    Real Player is so out dated and unneeded.



    Unneeded if you don't need it, but I can easily find some places hosting Real media so might think it's needed. Same goes for ASP. The comment I responded to wasn't about what was prolific, or what they thought would be nice or needed, but "all the internet". That is a blanket statement and a shortsighted one at that since it excludes every other plugin, etc. being used today.
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  • Reply 282 of 291
    igeniusigenius Posts: 1,240member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RussellSakay View Post


    If you aren't a Mac user or an Apple promoter then just leave. We don't need your kind here, adding negative non-purposeful remarks. Take you DELL and leave.



    Sorry, unlike iSteve, you cannot just wave a magic wand and eliminate functionality.



    You can, however, set my posts to ignore. I invite you to do so.
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  • Reply 283 of 291
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
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    Originally Posted by RBR View Post


    Steve has personal issues with Adobe that are standing in the way of sound business sense. Whether he likes it or not, Flash is a de facto standard which is everywhere on the internet and not just in the grotesquely overproduced videos he likes to complain about.



    If Flash is a "CPU hog" as he claims, perhaps he should have used a better CPU...NVidia Tegra 2, for example.



    Steve is the problem, not the solution. Steve lied. He promised "all the internet" with the iPhone. Without Flash you simply can not access "all the internet". Having lied about that, what makes you think he is not lying now?



    Almost anyone could have specified a better bit of hardware for the iPad than Steve did. Sadly, there is no one at Apple who can or will tell him that he is out of touch with reality and the market.



    Sure I could specify LOTS of higher performing hardware. Only if I used those specs I would need an eight pound Li-poly battery to get four hours of use.



    Take your one-sided poor assessments and circular file them. Start over and get the concept right before you try again. Big picture requires assessment of the Triangle of Death tradeoffs.



    1) raw performance



    2) power available



    3) size & weight



    The Law of the Triangle of Death says you can pick any two. The cost to optimize all three corners will ALWAYS be out of economical reach, but will always be reachable in a theoretical unconstrained environment.



    Until somebody ships something that outperforms the iPad by at least 2x with reasonable size and weight and at the same or better price points, saying it should have ______ or it is yesterday's tech is just hot air.
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  • Reply 284 of 291
    rbrrbr Posts: 631member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    Sure I could specify LOTS of higher performing hardware. Only if I used those specs I would need an eight pound Li-poly battery to get four hours of use.



    Take your one-sided poor assessments and circular file them. Start over and get the concept right before you try again. Big picture requires assessment of the Triangle of Death tradeoffs.



    1) raw performance



    2) power available



    3) size & weight



    The Law of the Triangle of Death says you can pick any two. The cost to optimize all three corners will ALWAYS be out of economical reach, but will always be reachable in a theoretical unconstrained environment.



    Until somebody ships something that outperforms the iPad by at least 2x with reasonable size and weight and at the same or better price points, saying it should have ______ or it is yesterday's tech is just hot air.



    You ability to read, comprehend and reason with statements is obviously limited so I will keep this very simple. You do not understand anything. When you are confronted with similar situations in the future just ignore them. There is even an option to ignore posts by specific people if they confuse you.
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  • Reply 285 of 291
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,764member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MuncyWeb View Post


    Why not leave this up to the consumer?



    Because consumers, being fickle as they are will happily read the label "Warning - by opening this box you will shoot yourself in the foot", open the box, shoot themselves in the proverbial foot and then complain about how Apple sucks.



    I don't blame them for wanting to avoid that one bit.
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  • Reply 286 of 291
    rbrrbr Posts: 631member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davesw View Post


    i'm beginning to suspect these people work for Adobe, Google or Microsoft



    No, they just use the internet.
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  • Reply 287 of 291
    rbrrbr Posts: 631member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Without Real PLayer I can't access all the internet

    Without Active Server Pages I can't access all the internet

    Without every little codec or plug i can't access all the internet



    Perhaps you need to change you revise your definition or what the internet is.



    Ask Steve. He is the one who made the promise. You most assuredly cannot access "all the internet" (or even a goodly part of it) without Flash though.
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  • Reply 288 of 291
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RBR View Post


    You ability to read, comprehend and reason with statements is obviously limited so I will keep this very simple. You do not understand anything. When you are confronted with similar situations in the future just ignore them. There is even an option to ignore posts by specific people if they confuse you.



    I see you completely lost your ability to respond. Rather than reply with fact or counterargument, you took the classic All Lose Technique to it's normal conclusion: Say the other guy is wrong and try to gloat.



    Why do so many resort to this form of stupidity? My gawd, use your brain for something other than saying you won some point when you won't even debate it. You really think ANYONE believes it?



    I'd laugh, but this unfortunately is the current state of the Internet.





    I'm still standing on this.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RBR View Post


    Steve has personal issues with Adobe that are standing in the way of sound business sense. Whether he likes it or not, Flash is a de facto standard which is everywhere on the internet and not just in the grotesquely overproduced videos he likes to complain about.



    If Flash is a "CPU hog" as he claims, perhaps he should have used a better CPU...NVidia Tegra 2, for example.



    Steve is the problem, not the solution. Steve lied. He promised "all the internet" with the iPhone. Without Flash you simply can not access "all the internet". Having lied about that, what makes you think he is not lying now?



    Almost anyone could have specified a better bit of hardware for the iPad than Steve did. Sadly, there is no one at Apple who can or will tell him that he is out of touch with reality and the market.







    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    Sure I could specify LOTS of higher performing hardware. Only if I used those specs I would need an eight pound Li-poly battery to get four hours of use.



    Take your one-sided poor assessments and circular file them. Start over and get the concept right before you try again. Big picture requires assessment of the Triangle of Death tradeoffs.



    1) raw performance



    2) power available



    3) size & weight



    The Law of the Triangle of Death says you can pick any two. The cost to optimize all three corners will ALWAYS be out of economical reach, but will always be reachable in a theoretical unconstrained environment.



    Until somebody ships something that outperforms the iPad by at least 2x with reasonable size and weight and at the same or better price points, saying it should have ______ or it is yesterday's tech is just hot air.



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  • Reply 289 of 291
    rbrrbr Posts: 631member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    I see you completely lost your ability to respond. Rather than reply with fact or counterargument, you took the classic All Lose Technique to it's normal conclusion: Say the other guy is wrong and try to gloat.



    Why do so many resort to this form of stupidity? My gawd, use your brain for something other than saying you won some point when you won't even debate it. You really think ANYONE believes it?



    I'd laugh, but this unfortunately is the current state of the Internet.





    I'm still standing on this.



    Hiro,



    You are so obviously wrong and plainly just an apologist that your comments do not warrant further comment. Enjoy your own little reality.
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  • Reply 290 of 291
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iGenius View Post


    Sorry, unlike iSteve, you cannot just wave a magic wand and eliminate functionality.



    You can, however, set my posts to ignore. I invite you to do so.



    Flash is not the Boy Scout of functionality. It is bad for Mac and Windows and if you only want a 1 hour battery for the iPad, it's also bad on portables. Flash Lite is a joke.
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  • Reply 291 of 291
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RBR View Post


    Hiro,



    You are so obviously wrong and plainly just an apologist that your comments do not warrant further comment. Enjoy your own little reality.







    At least my reality contains reality! Your continued vapor-filled responses are long on bile and short on substance. In the famed words of an old lady:







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