I would hate to think what it's like to dev for a platform such as Android.
Standardisation of parts = cheap/more reliable products.
Familiarity and consistency also play a role.
The other side of that is the HW. People complained that Apple used the exact same size dimensions between the 3G and 3GS which, I guess, I affected their status since people wouldn't know they had the newest one, but this surely makes the accessories companies and consumers who but a new device happy. At some point, they have to update to stay modern, but going two years with the same design and 8 year(?) with the same 30-pin connector is pretty awesome for CE.
It's not that they are "not good" at it. In-fact it's their self control to NOT release a barrage of varying devices that makes Apple what they are.
There are a few good reason for Apple's design philosophies, but one of the main ones is that with multiple sizes comes a headache of software testing, not just for Apple but for third party developers. I spent all this morning checking the compatibility with Apples 'limited' range of devices, I would hate to think what it's like to dev for a platform such as Android.
Standardisation of parts = cheap/more reliable products.
Familiarity and consistency also play a role.
I would tend to disagree both on the philosophy you are talking about and the nuts and bolts of the particular device.
It has nothing to do with self-control IMO because that implies there is a down side to having multiple sizes of devices to fit the multiple sizes of the humans using them. Other than slightly increased manufacturing costs overall (and it would be very slight indeed), I don't see such a downside.
The major downside of software testing headaches you refer to on multiple size devices presumes (incorrectly), that I was talking about multiple screen resolutions, when it should have been clear I was talking only of multiple sized devices.
I'm not talking about them releasing multiple iPhones all slightly different from each other in the same sense as Android, but in them releasing multiple sizes of the exact same phone. The software isn't at issue at all here.
Apple's computers and devices are basically just wrappers for the software, which is typically central and dictates the hardware design to a great degree. What I'm arguing is that the physical hardware part of the design (the "wrapper" if you will), should take into account the fact that one human hand may be quite literallytwice the size of another human hand even if you don't take into account mutations.
The same goes for everything they make, including things like earbud cords, which are sized to be "just right," but for the average sized person only.
While you personal opinions are your own, the bezel thing has to have been designed for the averages - average users from their research - non-techies for whom thumb typing is an alien skill, who would constantly foul the screen with their fingers while holding it etc.
Apple pays more attention to ergonomics than most companies but also tempers that with aesthetics. The also realize that it leaves a massive market for cases/holders etc. which will drive a supportive eco-system for the iPad.
Overall - there is not so much diversity in the middle 80% of humanity that making 3 versions makes any sense economically or for marketing. I could easily imaging people will buy the one they like the look of (smaller bezel), then hate the screen fouling, return it etc. Thumb-typing freaks/geeks like you or me will never drive an Apple design decision and that is as it should be. The bell curve of humanity drives the optimal size choices more than most things.
Anyway, we have no idea how good the virtual keyboard will be - the demos make it look quite good.
Well I guess we just disagree. I don't find any of these arguments convincing.
You say they temper the design with aesthetics, but my artist's eye sees the giant bezel on the iPad as remarkably ugly, and many many people had that same initial reaction. Opinion on the subject was only tempered by the argument that there was a *practical* reason for the bezel. The argument seemingly being that "okay, it's ugly, but there is a reason."
I also disagree that thumb-typing is a "geek thing" or for "techies" only. The iPhone, which is of course hugely popular has portrait style thumb typing as it's default and preferred method of text entry. Several studies have shown that the portrait oriented keyboard is usually faster overall than the landscape orientation.
The iPad is also by default supposed to be used in the same portrait orientation as demonstrated by no less than Steve jobs himself. When in landscape mode, the keyboard on the iPad is slightly smaller than a full-sized keyboard, enough to make it difficult for touch typists. In portrait mode it's even smaller than that. So I would argue that this keyboard is also really intended to be used as a thumb typing board, even though the fat bezels on the side make it just wide enough to be very awkward indeed from all accounts I've read.
Lastly, the iPhone itself is a much smaller device than the iPad and it has very narrow bezels on the sides. To argue that a larger device needs wider bezels seems a bit off to me. The idea that it works on the iPhone (and it does quite handily), but that scaling the device up to twice it's size leaves the side bezel as "too small," and necessitates making it wider doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
The only possible argument in favour of that I can think of is that the weight of the thing precludes holding it in a similar manner to the iPhone (using the edge of your thumb), but it simply isn't that heavy. In fact it's one of the lightest computers out there. About half as light as the MacBook Air which is easily held in one hand in the exact same manner as my iPhone. Remember too, that if you are thumb typing you are actually holding it in two hands, not one.
Erm, not really. Low-end 720p televisions will often times use screens that are actually the resolutions you mentioned (because it's cheaper), but in both instances it's a 16:9 screen and the resolution has been stretched to match it. This is why when purchasing a 720p television instead of a 1080p television, it's not so much about whether you notice the improvement in resolution, as to whether you can tolerate the artifacts introduced by the scaling and stretching used to force those resolutions to display 16:9 HD content at 16:9.
A 4:3 screen cannot be 720p HD. But a 1280x960 (4:3) screen could display 720p content without cropping or scaling ? there would just be letterboxing. If the iPad is going to remain a 4:3 device, 1280x960 would have been the best resolution for it.
Gotta love the way people have bought into the media's total co-opting of what used to be a constitutionalist movement, and is now a way to demonize anyone who disagrees with corruption.
Erm .. the media didn't co-opt it, the teabagger movement did.
Also, for most of us the "constitutionalist movement" you talk about is just a slightly different shade of wacky from the current tea-baggers, and it was actually more Libertarian, than constitutionalist.
Heck it wasn't even traditional Libertarian but simply modern economic Libertarianism. Try telling the average modern American "Libertarian" that true libertarianism involves embracing people's right to be gay, do drugs, and opt out of military duty and see what happens.
Erm .. the media didn't co-opt it, the teabagger movement did.
Also, for most of us the "constitutionalist movement" you talk about is just a slightly different shade of wacky from the current tea-baggers, and it was actually more Libertarian, than constitutionalist.
Heck it wasn't even traditional Libertarian but simply modern economic Libertarianism. Try telling the average modern American "Libertarian" that true libertarianism involves embracing people's right to be gay, do drugs, and opt out of military duty and see what happens.
Well said, even if off-topic.
It reminded me of how some so-called old friends of mine informed me that I should not have had the right to vote in the last presidential election. Their reasoning was that I had just sold my older home, and had not yet moved into my new place, as it had not been built yet. I was renting, and therefore not a landowner with residency status.
And they were not kidding!
Like i said, they were friends of mine... So hard to tolerate that kind of small minded mentality.
You say they temper the design with aesthetics, but my artist's eye sees the giant bezel on the iPad as remarkably ugly, and many many people had that same initial reaction. Opinion on the subject was only tempered by the argument that there was a *practical* reason for the bezel. The argument seemingly being that "okay, it's ugly, but there is a reason."
And have you even taken your "artist's eye" to an art gallery? Ever seen an oil painting in a big frame? Or a framed photographic print surrounded by ivory coloured mounting board?
I don't think the bezel is ugly. And the "practical" reasons for it far outweigh some people's artistic sensitivities.
How are you going to hold it? Remember, the screen is basically one giant button! How are you going to hold it when you turn it around? When you pass it to someone? When you pick it up from the coffee table?
How much "stuff" is inside an iPad. How much "stuff" will you have to remove if you lose 20% of the space by knocking a few millimetres from every side?
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Lastly, the iPhone itself is a much smaller device than the iPad and it has very narrow bezels on the sides. To argue that a larger device needs wider bezels seems a bit off to me. The idea that it works on the iPhone (and it does quite handily), but that scaling the device up to twice it's size leaves the side bezel as "too small," and necessitates making it wider doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
Are you making this up as you go along? The iPhone fits in one hand. In fact it' fits in the just the palm of your hand. It's really easy to hold the iPhone in one hand and not even touch the black bezel. Portrait and landscape. Try that with an iPad!
But the iPad isn't twice the size of the iPhone. It's about 6 times the size.... and 5 times the weight. It's a completely different ergonomic problem.
TRY THIS.
Hold an iPhone in both hands.
Landscape format with one thumb over the home button... and the other over the earpiece.
Hold it away from you... normal reading distance.
Now take one hand away.....
How far is your skin from the touch screen?
Now imagine your iPhone is much bigger and heavier.
In defence of the bezel police... I think people will need to hold the damn thing before they can understand what's going on. The pictures don't tell the whole story.
You say they temper the design with aesthetics, but my artist's eye sees the giant bezel on the iPad as remarkably ugly, and many many people had that same initial reaction. Opinion on the subject was only tempered by the argument that there was a *practical* reason for the bezel. The argument seemingly being that "okay, it's ugly, but there is a reason."
Rarely is the most functional design also the most aesthetically pleasing design. And in the case of the iPad, it's beauty stems from it's functionality, which is most often the case with Apple products in general. Remember the lamp iMac? goofy-as-all-hell, but unbeatable in functionality until screens above 20 inches became the norm on consumer desktops.
April 3rd is my birthday! I'm gonna surprise myself. hehe Can't wait!
anyway, I feel the iPad has a good chance mostly due to it's great starting price. To me, I think it'll be great, much more portable than a laptop for around the house to use on the couch, at the kitchen table, ah-hem in the bathroom -reading magazine sites, newspapers, or reading code. I also believe it'll make it's way into the school markets, and scientific and medical fields.
I think I want an iPad as soo as it is available here in the Netherlands (which it will be pretty soon after the US launch). But there is one thing stopping me. I am uncertain about security/privacy. How well protected is the iPad against use by others? If I read my mail on it, can anybody who has access to the device read my mail ((etc) without having to enter a password?
Lastly, the iPhone itself is a much smaller device than the iPad and it has very narrow bezels on the sides. To argue that a larger device needs wider bezels seems a bit off to me. The idea that it works on the iPhone (and it does quite handily), but that scaling the device up to twice it's size leaves the side bezel as "too small," and necessitates making it wider doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
The only possible argument in favour of that I can think of is that the weight of the thing precludes holding it in a similar manner to the iPhone (using the edge of your thumb), but it simply isn't that heavy. In fact it's one of the lightest computers out there.
Um, the center of gravity on an iPad relative to your palm is totally different from that of an iPhone. Yeah, you can hold it that way there but push on the screen with any bit of force and watch $500 fly quickly into the ground.
I'm getting used to the bezel from a practicality point of view, as you point out. You need to be able to grip it. Most of the science-fiction movies and Internet tablet mockups never really took into account "grip area" you need for holding it and manipulating it. In any case I won't see an iPad 'till maybe end of April or even May, in my country...
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God I am fed up with all this BezelBullShit!
And have you even taken your "artist's eye" to an art gallery? Ever seen an oil painting in a big frame? Or a framed photographic print surrounded by ivory coloured mounting board?
I don't think the bezel is ugly. And the "practical" reasons for it far outweigh some people's artistic sensitivities.
How are you going to hold it? Remember, the screen is basically one giant button! How are you going to hold it when you turn it around? When you pass it to someone? When you pick it up from the coffee table?
How much "stuff" is inside an iPad. How much "stuff" will you have to remove if you lose 20% of the space by knocking a few millimetres from every side?
Are you making this up as you go along? The iPhone fits in one hand. In fact it' fits in the just the palm of your hand. It's really easy to hold the iPhone in one hand and not even touch the black bezel. Portrait and landscape. Try that with an iPad!
But the iPad isn't twice the size of the iPhone. It's about 6 times the size.... and 5 times the weight. It's a completely different ergonomic problem.
TRY THIS.
Hold an iPhone in both hands.
Landscape format with one thumb over the home button... and the other over the earpiece.
Hold it away from you... normal reading distance.
Now take one hand away.....
How far is your skin from the touch screen?
Now imagine your iPhone is much bigger and heavier.
In defence of the bezel police... I think people will need to hold the damn thing before they can understand what's going on. The pictures don't tell the whole story.
With the WiFi+3G hardware being released in Canada, which Canadian network will support it? Does Rogers or Bell / Telus support the Micro SIM hardware?
I haven't seen any announcements from them on supporting the iPad 3G.
It wouldn't surprise me that they wouldn't.
I have found Rogers quite accommodating. Great service, speed and support.
Interesting, just got back from the U.S. and got this:
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New Rogers plan scraps data roaming fee in US
Rogers on Tuesday became a rarity among North American carriers by potentially eliminating roaming fees on its data plans. The North America One Rate plans treat all data usage on smartphones or modems in the US as though they were part of the customer's regular use in Canada; customers only pay for roaming if they go beyond the plan's existing transfer cap.
I'm getting used to the bezel from a practicality point of view, as you point out. You need to be able to grip it. Most of the science-fiction movies and Internet tablet mockups never really took into account "grip area" you need for holding it and manipulating it.(
They could have put a big honkin' handle on one corner ? I've seen it done that way in some movies ? but then it wouldn't be able to be turned in any direction you like.
It needs to be 16:9 to be HD. At that aspect ratio, the pad will not display 720p.
It's funny how 'HD" slides so often.
I have a feeling that you don't actually mean 16:9, but a ratio that has at least 1280px on the horizontal line and 720px on the vertical. Meaning, I think you'd say a 16:10 ratio is also HD so long as it can fit a 1280x720 video onscreen without scaling down.
If we're going to start focusing on the display width perhaps we should start referring to the other value since having 720p or more pixels means nothing.
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I would hate to think what it's like to dev for a platform such as Android.
Standardisation of parts = cheap/more reliable products.
Familiarity and consistency also play a role.
The other side of that is the HW. People complained that Apple used the exact same size dimensions between the 3G and 3GS which, I guess, I affected their status since people wouldn't know they had the newest one, but this surely makes the accessories companies and consumers who but a new device happy. At some point, they have to update to stay modern, but going two years with the same design and 8 year(?) with the same 30-pin connector is pretty awesome for CE.
It's not that they are "not good" at it. In-fact it's their self control to NOT release a barrage of varying devices that makes Apple what they are.
There are a few good reason for Apple's design philosophies, but one of the main ones is that with multiple sizes comes a headache of software testing, not just for Apple but for third party developers. I spent all this morning checking the compatibility with Apples 'limited' range of devices, I would hate to think what it's like to dev for a platform such as Android.
Standardisation of parts = cheap/more reliable products.
Familiarity and consistency also play a role.
I would tend to disagree both on the philosophy you are talking about and the nuts and bolts of the particular device.
It has nothing to do with self-control IMO because that implies there is a down side to having multiple sizes of devices to fit the multiple sizes of the humans using them. Other than slightly increased manufacturing costs overall (and it would be very slight indeed), I don't see such a downside.
The major downside of software testing headaches you refer to on multiple size devices presumes (incorrectly), that I was talking about multiple screen resolutions, when it should have been clear I was talking only of multiple sized devices.
I'm not talking about them releasing multiple iPhones all slightly different from each other in the same sense as Android, but in them releasing multiple sizes of the exact same phone. The software isn't at issue at all here.
Apple's computers and devices are basically just wrappers for the software, which is typically central and dictates the hardware design to a great degree. What I'm arguing is that the physical hardware part of the design (the "wrapper" if you will), should take into account the fact that one human hand may be quite literally twice the size of another human hand even if you don't take into account mutations.
The same goes for everything they make, including things like earbud cords, which are sized to be "just right," but for the average sized person only.
While you personal opinions are your own, the bezel thing has to have been designed for the averages - average users from their research - non-techies for whom thumb typing is an alien skill, who would constantly foul the screen with their fingers while holding it etc.
Apple pays more attention to ergonomics than most companies but also tempers that with aesthetics. The also realize that it leaves a massive market for cases/holders etc. which will drive a supportive eco-system for the iPad.
Overall - there is not so much diversity in the middle 80% of humanity that making 3 versions makes any sense economically or for marketing. I could easily imaging people will buy the one they like the look of (smaller bezel), then hate the screen fouling, return it etc. Thumb-typing freaks/geeks like you or me will never drive an Apple design decision and that is as it should be. The bell curve of humanity drives the optimal size choices more than most things.
Anyway, we have no idea how good the virtual keyboard will be - the demos make it look quite good.
Well I guess we just disagree. I don't find any of these arguments convincing.
You say they temper the design with aesthetics, but my artist's eye sees the giant bezel on the iPad as remarkably ugly, and many many people had that same initial reaction. Opinion on the subject was only tempered by the argument that there was a *practical* reason for the bezel. The argument seemingly being that "okay, it's ugly, but there is a reason."
I also disagree that thumb-typing is a "geek thing" or for "techies" only. The iPhone, which is of course hugely popular has portrait style thumb typing as it's default and preferred method of text entry. Several studies have shown that the portrait oriented keyboard is usually faster overall than the landscape orientation.
The iPad is also by default supposed to be used in the same portrait orientation as demonstrated by no less than Steve jobs himself. When in landscape mode, the keyboard on the iPad is slightly smaller than a full-sized keyboard, enough to make it difficult for touch typists. In portrait mode it's even smaller than that. So I would argue that this keyboard is also really intended to be used as a thumb typing board, even though the fat bezels on the side make it just wide enough to be very awkward indeed from all accounts I've read.
Lastly, the iPhone itself is a much smaller device than the iPad and it has very narrow bezels on the sides. To argue that a larger device needs wider bezels seems a bit off to me. The idea that it works on the iPhone (and it does quite handily), but that scaling the device up to twice it's size leaves the side bezel as "too small," and necessitates making it wider doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
The only possible argument in favour of that I can think of is that the weight of the thing precludes holding it in a similar manner to the iPhone (using the edge of your thumb), but it simply isn't that heavy. In fact it's one of the lightest computers out there. About half as light as the MacBook Air which is easily held in one hand in the exact same manner as my iPhone. Remember too, that if you are thumb typing you are actually holding it in two hands, not one.
Erm, not really. Low-end 720p televisions will often times use screens that are actually the resolutions you mentioned (because it's cheaper), but in both instances it's a 16:9 screen and the resolution has been stretched to match it. This is why when purchasing a 720p television instead of a 1080p television, it's not so much about whether you notice the improvement in resolution, as to whether you can tolerate the artifacts introduced by the scaling and stretching used to force those resolutions to display 16:9 HD content at 16:9.
A 4:3 screen cannot be 720p HD. But a 1280x960 (4:3) screen could display 720p content without cropping or scaling ? there would just be letterboxing. If the iPad is going to remain a 4:3 device, 1280x960 would have been the best resolution for it.
Upscaling. Not native HD resolutions.
Gotta love the way people have bought into the media's total co-opting of what used to be a constitutionalist movement, and is now a way to demonize anyone who disagrees with corruption.
Erm .. the media didn't co-opt it, the teabagger movement did.
Also, for most of us the "constitutionalist movement" you talk about is just a slightly different shade of wacky from the current tea-baggers, and it was actually more Libertarian, than constitutionalist.
Heck it wasn't even traditional Libertarian but simply modern economic Libertarianism. Try telling the average modern American "Libertarian" that true libertarianism involves embracing people's right to be gay, do drugs, and opt out of military duty and see what happens.
Erm .. the media didn't co-opt it, the teabagger movement did.
Also, for most of us the "constitutionalist movement" you talk about is just a slightly different shade of wacky from the current tea-baggers, and it was actually more Libertarian, than constitutionalist.
Heck it wasn't even traditional Libertarian but simply modern economic Libertarianism. Try telling the average modern American "Libertarian" that true libertarianism involves embracing people's right to be gay, do drugs, and opt out of military duty and see what happens.
Well said, even if off-topic.
It reminded me of how some so-called old friends of mine informed me that I should not have had the right to vote in the last presidential election. Their reasoning was that I had just sold my older home, and had not yet moved into my new place, as it had not been built yet. I was renting, and therefore not a landowner with residency status.
And they were not kidding!
Like i said, they were friends of mine... So hard to tolerate that kind of small minded mentality.
Upscaling. Not native HD resolutions.
In the iPad's case, downscaling.
You say they temper the design with aesthetics, but my artist's eye sees the giant bezel on the iPad as remarkably ugly, and many many people had that same initial reaction. Opinion on the subject was only tempered by the argument that there was a *practical* reason for the bezel. The argument seemingly being that "okay, it's ugly, but there is a reason."
And have you even taken your "artist's eye" to an art gallery? Ever seen an oil painting in a big frame? Or a framed photographic print surrounded by ivory coloured mounting board?
I don't think the bezel is ugly. And the "practical" reasons for it far outweigh some people's artistic sensitivities.
How are you going to hold it? Remember, the screen is basically one giant button! How are you going to hold it when you turn it around? When you pass it to someone? When you pick it up from the coffee table?
How much "stuff" is inside an iPad. How much "stuff" will you have to remove if you lose 20% of the space by knocking a few millimetres from every side?
Lastly, the iPhone itself is a much smaller device than the iPad and it has very narrow bezels on the sides. To argue that a larger device needs wider bezels seems a bit off to me. The idea that it works on the iPhone (and it does quite handily), but that scaling the device up to twice it's size leaves the side bezel as "too small," and necessitates making it wider doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
Are you making this up as you go along? The iPhone fits in one hand. In fact it' fits in the just the palm of your hand. It's really easy to hold the iPhone in one hand and not even touch the black bezel. Portrait and landscape. Try that with an iPad!
But the iPad isn't twice the size of the iPhone. It's about 6 times the size.... and 5 times the weight. It's a completely different ergonomic problem.
TRY THIS.
Hold an iPhone in both hands.
Landscape format with one thumb over the home button... and the other over the earpiece.
Hold it away from you... normal reading distance.
Now take one hand away.....
How far is your skin from the touch screen?
Now imagine your iPhone is much bigger and heavier.
In defence of the bezel police... I think people will need to hold the damn thing before they can understand what's going on. The pictures don't tell the whole story.
You say they temper the design with aesthetics, but my artist's eye sees the giant bezel on the iPad as remarkably ugly, and many many people had that same initial reaction. Opinion on the subject was only tempered by the argument that there was a *practical* reason for the bezel. The argument seemingly being that "okay, it's ugly, but there is a reason."
Rarely is the most functional design also the most aesthetically pleasing design. And in the case of the iPad, it's beauty stems from it's functionality, which is most often the case with Apple products in general. Remember the lamp iMac? goofy-as-all-hell, but unbeatable in functionality until screens above 20 inches became the norm on consumer desktops.
Now look what you made me do!
Very well done. Puts the bezel in perspective. I didn't realize how close the bezels were.
anyway, I feel the iPad has a good chance mostly due to it's great starting price. To me, I think it'll be great, much more portable than a laptop for around the house to use on the couch, at the kitchen table, ah-hem in the bathroom -reading magazine sites, newspapers, or reading code. I also believe it'll make it's way into the school markets, and scientific and medical fields.
Thanks,
Lastly, the iPhone itself is a much smaller device than the iPad and it has very narrow bezels on the sides. To argue that a larger device needs wider bezels seems a bit off to me. The idea that it works on the iPhone (and it does quite handily), but that scaling the device up to twice it's size leaves the side bezel as "too small," and necessitates making it wider doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
The only possible argument in favour of that I can think of is that the weight of the thing precludes holding it in a similar manner to the iPhone (using the edge of your thumb), but it simply isn't that heavy. In fact it's one of the lightest computers out there.
Um, the center of gravity on an iPad relative to your palm is totally different from that of an iPhone. Yeah, you can hold it that way there but push on the screen with any bit of force and watch $500 fly quickly into the ground.
Nobody needs an iPad. You didn't need an iPad this time last year and you don't now. Advertising isn't about needs, it's about wants.
Having said that, I'll be popping out to buy one just as soon as I can but just remember why you're doing it. :-)
God I am fed up with all this BezelBullShit!
And have you even taken your "artist's eye" to an art gallery? Ever seen an oil painting in a big frame? Or a framed photographic print surrounded by ivory coloured mounting board?
I don't think the bezel is ugly. And the "practical" reasons for it far outweigh some people's artistic sensitivities.
How are you going to hold it? Remember, the screen is basically one giant button! How are you going to hold it when you turn it around? When you pass it to someone? When you pick it up from the coffee table?
How much "stuff" is inside an iPad. How much "stuff" will you have to remove if you lose 20% of the space by knocking a few millimetres from every side?
Are you making this up as you go along? The iPhone fits in one hand. In fact it' fits in the just the palm of your hand. It's really easy to hold the iPhone in one hand and not even touch the black bezel. Portrait and landscape. Try that with an iPad!
But the iPad isn't twice the size of the iPhone. It's about 6 times the size.... and 5 times the weight. It's a completely different ergonomic problem.
TRY THIS.
Hold an iPhone in both hands.
Landscape format with one thumb over the home button... and the other over the earpiece.
Hold it away from you... normal reading distance.
Now take one hand away.....
How far is your skin from the touch screen?
Now imagine your iPhone is much bigger and heavier.
In defence of the bezel police... I think people will need to hold the damn thing before they can understand what's going on. The pictures don't tell the whole story.
With the WiFi+3G hardware being released in Canada, which Canadian network will support it? Does Rogers or Bell / Telus support the Micro SIM hardware?
I haven't seen any announcements from them on supporting the iPad 3G.
It wouldn't surprise me that they wouldn't.
I have found Rogers quite accommodating. Great service, speed and support.
Interesting, just got back from the U.S. and got this:
New Rogers plan scraps data roaming fee in US
Rogers on Tuesday became a rarity among North American carriers by potentially eliminating roaming fees on its data plans. The North America One Rate plans treat all data usage on smartphones or modems in the US as though they were part of the customer's regular use in Canada; customers only pay for roaming if they go beyond the plan's existing transfer cap.
http://www.electronista.com/articles...ame.as.canada/
More info on Rogers Travel with Your Phone page: http://www.rogers.com/web/content/ad...0110-_-roaming
I'm getting used to the bezel from a practicality point of view, as you point out. You need to be able to grip it. Most of the science-fiction movies and Internet tablet mockups never really took into account "grip area" you need for holding it and manipulating it.(
They could have put a big honkin' handle on one corner ? I've seen it done that way in some movies ? but then it wouldn't be able to be turned in any direction you like.
My hat gets tipped to anyone and everyone who buys a $500 16Gb Wifi iDevice.
May you not complain in 6 months when the price drops.
It's 1024x768. Technically, HD is 720p or over, no?
It needs to be 16:9 to be HD. At that aspect ratio, the pad will not display 720p.
It needs to be 16:9 to be HD. At that aspect ratio, the pad will not display 720p.
It's funny how 'HD" slides so often.
I have a feeling that you don't actually mean 16:9, but a ratio that has at least 1280px on the horizontal line and 720px on the vertical. Meaning, I think you'd say a 16:10 ratio is also HD so long as it can fit a 1280x720 video onscreen without scaling down.
If we're going to start focusing on the display width perhaps we should start referring to the other value since having 720p or more pixels means nothing.