More and more, Apple seems to be ignoring what people want in favor of what Steve Jobs is convinced they should want--Flash on the iPhone/Touch/iPad, user-replaceable batteries, support for more audio and video codecs. And now this.
Your ignorance is blatant. Apple has never "listened" to their customers. Neither does Ferrari.
They just make what they think are really, really awesome products. If you don't like them; just move on to something you do like. It's that simple, and it always has been.
keep an eye on overstock for good prices on screen protectors. Every once in a while they have a great deal. I bought 20 the other day for my tp2 for $10
Yeah I know, I hear that Apple is going to close down all the iPhone Screen Protector factories all around the world. and they are going to file a petition to write it into the constitution to stop people or companies from making or selling screen protectors for iPhone.
I am so angry right now.
Nice. Any reason that you're being so sarcastic? I'm not saying that this is a HUGE deal, just that there is a need for the protectors and that they don't interfere with touch functionality nor do they detract from how the phone looks. I just put a new one on yesterday and you'd be hard pressed to even tell it was on. No bubbles at all. Don't see the need to be a jerk though...
Your ignorance is blatant. Apple has never "listened" to their customers. Neither does Ferrari.
They just make what they think are really, really awesome products. If you don't like them; just move on to something you do like. It's that simple, and it always has been.
It's laughable you don't realize this.
No, the make what they think there exists a market for. If they just made really really awesome products then we would be seeing amazing stuff at prices barely anybody can pay, like a personal assistant robot, or flubber.
this despite widespread reports of scratches appearing quite easily on its handheld offerings for years.
Apple device screens are among the most durable and scratch-resistant you'll ever find. There's no actual need for any screen protection.
As for the ban, screen protection kind of defeats the purpose of oleophobic coatings, and does send the message that Apple's screens are in need of protection.
I've stopped using plastic screen protectors for my iPhone long ago, preferring a nice, thin, plastic/transparent backing. Works great.
Further, you can get your screen protectors elsewhere, just not in Apple Stores. No big deal.
I find that the iphones and ipod touches arre actually easier to scxratch then shown. My ipod touc scratched because i accidentally put it in my pocket with my keys.
Nice. Any reason that you're being so sarcastic? I'm not saying that this is a HUGE deal, just that there is a need for the protectors and that they don't interfere with touch functionality nor do they detract from how the phone looks. I just put a new one on yesterday and you'd be hard pressed to even tell it was on. No bubbles at all. Don't see the need to be a jerk though...
Oh you can't tell that I am really angry at Apple? How dare you mistook my anger as being sarcastic?
I mean after all, they are banning the iPhone screen protector. I feel that my rights has been violated!
This is exactly what the Mayans predicted would happen in 2010!
If the iPhone / iPod Touch screens don't need a film protector they won't sell. I have an iPhone 3G and after using it for a few days, I added an anti-glare, anti-fingerprint screen protector because I couldn't stand the glare or fingerprints.
Apple's censors are hard at work. They should simply let the customer decide whether they need a protector or not.
Apple could be addressing the glare issue on their future devices with a improved coating or are using specialized anti-reflective glass with the oleo-whatever coating, rendering the need for extra films unnecessary.
If this is true, this is a welcome change for the better for everyone. We get the clarity of glass with the anti-reflective nature of matte coated screens.
Im not sure what is more rediculous, apples ban or the fanboys stupid excusses. Its a company, not your parents, move on.
I am not sure what's more ridiculous.... people who never bothered to learn basic spelling and punctuation in grammar school or those who never bother to spell-check.....
Honestly, I have had the same iPhone since they came out in Canada. Mine does not have one scratch on it & I have never used film. In addition, my iPod Touch is absolutely pristine. On the other hand, a couple of weeks ago while waiting for a train in Windsor Ontario, I met a dad who had a Touch with a shattered screen. His son had "borrowed" the device from him. On the other, other hand, I never place my iPhone next to keys but I often just pitch it into my backpack.
The thing is, if your screen's going to crack, it's going to crack with or without a screen protector. I've dropped my iPhone 3 times without any protection, and the only place showing a crack is the plastic around the dock connector.
I don't know about that. Your saying that the plastic film adds zero reinforcement? What if I put two screen films on? Ten? It has to improve it a little bit.
I wish someone could do some scientific testing to prove or disprove this.
People who cover their iPhone screen are just as likely to cover their furniture with plastic. It gets in the way and doesn't look as good.
Utter nonsense.
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I've had iPhones from Day 1 and never had a scratch on the screen.
Neither have I, because I put a protector on it. Would I have? I don't know, but for about £3, why not?
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Smart move by Apple.
No it isn't, it's the dumbest thing in the history of the world. If these things are so unnecessary then where's the harm in selling them and making a little profit?
Only the most rabid fanboy can possibly support this move. At best it's peculiar, at worst it's an example of what is becoming ever more paranoid and bizarre behaviour by Apple. Did a screen-protector salesman take Steve Jobs' parking space or something?
Friendly tip? It's kind of customary to follow an interjection like that with something substantive. Otherwise you leave your audience hanging.
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Would I have? I don't know, but for about £3, why not?
Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.
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If these things are so unnecessary then where's the harm in selling them and making a little profit?
Two reasons. The first is the opportunity cost. Apple's retail stores have limited shelf space — 'cause of, y'know, physics — so they have to choose which products they stock. Dropping products from their inventory which sell poorly, or which customers have trouble with frees up that shelf space for other products. It's the same reason why The Gap doesn't sell blue jeans that are on fire.
The other reason is purely speculative, but supported by anecdotal evidence and plus it makes sense on its face: Customer support. Apple sells these things, so it's reasonable for customers who buy them to ask Apple store employees to put them on. Or to replace them when they crease, tear or fail to adhere. Or to give out new ones when iPhones have to be replaced under warranty. What we have here is a product that (a) the overwhelming majority of people do not want (b) nobody actually needs (c) causes headaches for Apple's retail staff, and finally (d) takes up shelf space that could be used for, just to pick a random example, upcoming iPad accessories.
True? No idea. But it seems to make sense to me. So I'm going with the plausible explanation rather than the one that assumes everybody but you is a drooling moron. Cause when I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, and not zebras. But maybe that's just me.
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At best it's peculiar, at worst it's an example of what is becoming ever more paranoid and bizarre behaviour by Apple.
I'm with you that there's definitely evidence of something bizarre and paranoid going on here. But I don't think it's on Apple's part. Ahem.
More and more, Apple seems to be ignoring what people want in favor of what Steve Jobs is convinced they should want--Flash on the iPhone/Touch/iPad, user-replaceable batteries, support for more audio and video codecs. And now this.
But then you realize that they are always right...
Neither have I, because I put a protector on it. Would I have? I don't know, but for about £3, why not?
No it isn't, it's the dumbest thing in the history of the world. If these things are so unnecessary then where's the harm in selling them and making a little profit?
Only the most rabid fanboy can possibly support this move. At best it's peculiar, at worst it's an example of what is becoming ever more paranoid and bizarre behaviour by Apple. Did a screen-protector salesman take Steve Jobs' parking space or something?
Funny thing is, no one outside the minority complaining on these Apple fansites actually gives a damn. Know why? Because it's not worth caring about. This will have as much effect on Apple as their decision to use track lighting in some stores instead of pot lights.
Who friggin cares about plastic screen protectors sold in Apple Stores?! LOL gimme a break.
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More and more, Apple seems to be ignoring what people want in favor of what Steve Jobs is convinced they should want--Flash on the iPhone/Touch/iPad, user-replaceable batteries, support for more audio and video codecs. And now this.
Then it turns out Apple knows best. As usual. Questioning Apple in this manner is like criticizing Michael Phelps on his breaststroke.
I guess that must be why the iPhone's marketshare is declining and Android's is increasing, huh.
I guess that means that Apple is #3 in only two years, out of nowhere, having single-handedly destroyed Windows Mobile, changing the face of the mobile industry almost overnight, and dictating the pace of change . . . right behind the world's biggest purveyor of mobile phones, and right behind a company that has been entrenched in the smartphone business for years now (RIM), which has to offer two-fer deals to move product.
No iPhone-killer yet, unfortunately. And it's been almost 3 years now. Apple still ahead of the game after all this time. One wonders if the competition is going to rip off Apple's IP, why the hell can't they do it right??
Funny thing is, no one outside the minority complaining on these Apple fansites actually gives a damn. Know why? Because it's not worth caring about. This will have as much effect on Apple as their decision to use track lighting in some stores instead of pot lights.
Who friggin cares about plastic screen protectors sold in Apple Stores?! LOL gimme a break.
Then it turns out Apple knows best. As usual. Questioning Apple in this manner is like criticizing Michael Phelps on his breaststroke.
And obviously the only opinions you hold are the ones dictated to you by Steve Jobs. The bigger Apple gets, the more arrogant and pig-headed it becomes. We're already beginning to see the fallout from that in the iPhone's marketshare, which is falling relative to Android's. Apple has become the new Microsoft.
This is totally false, or at best the existence of the "reports" is true, even though they have no basis in fact.
I think you should back this nonsense up or remove it from the article. We aren't Republican's here. You can't just repeat lies over and over until they are believed.
Flame bait? That too is a lie that's been repeated over and over again until people believe its true. It's a blatant lie of omission, no party is better than the other at telling you what you want to hear. Well I guess in this case you prefer the Pepsi brand bullsh@t vs. the Coke brand bullsh@t. Whichever, it all stinks up the neighborhood and might be better off not digesting any more.
Amusing, your call for journalistic revision takes some real bravado (as opposed to the gray matter), especially considering your other thoughts... keep reading.
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Other than a few nutbars with videos on YouTube of dubious authenticity, there are no "widespread reports" of problems with the iPhone screen scratching. The only serious attempts at testing the durability of the screen that I've seen show people scratching really hard across the surface with sets of keys without leaving a scratch. In fact, it's very very difficult to scratch an iPhone screen. It's tougher than any of the silly plastic coverings for sale that supposedly "protect it."
Wrong again... And I think you should check out your glass surroundings before calling people on YouTube 'nutbars' - you're on a Mac news/rumor forum posting about iPhone accessories, cowboy!
I'm afraid the screen protectors do eliminate scratches from metal objects like keys in your pocket or purse. My iPhone v1 had a screen protector and no scratches, I lived dangerously with the iPhone 3G and within a few days, lots of tiny little scratches, within a few weeks a couple deeper gouges, and now my 3GS is back in protector. Funny how experience always trumps idle chatter.
You might want to keep it gloved champ. It makes the surface a little less smooth, but you can change it. When the glass is scratched, good luck getting an Apple Store to replace it.
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I wouldn't mind betting that Apple removed them because they don't want to get involved in a fraud lawsuit for selling products that actually don't do anything close to what they are advertised as doing. It's borderline fraud to be selling a plastic screen "protector" for a hardened, tempered glass screen.
Again, the 'fraud' and 'deceit' meter you're using needs recalibration. More likely the shelf space is better utilized for something more profitable/glamorous than $15 pieces of plastic - that's what drives 99% of this sort of thing in real life retail. Why do people always look to invent 'mystery' in their minds? Do you watch 'Ghost Hunters'?
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You may want a full-fledged case for your iPhone and the chrome ring and the plastic back will certainly get scuffed, but the *last* thing you need protection for is the tough glass screen.
It ain't that tough, glass scratches pretty well. Anyone whose ever owned any pair of glasses or sunglasses knows this is pure fantasy. Maybe the average person doesn't share your Little Miss Muffet like gentile habits?
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More and more, Apple seems to be ignoring what people want in favor of what Steve Jobs is convinced they should want--Flash on the iPhone/Touch/iPad, user-replaceable batteries, support for more audio and video codecs. And now this.
Your ignorance is blatant. Apple has never "listened" to their customers. Neither does Ferrari.
They just make what they think are really, really awesome products. If you don't like them; just move on to something you do like. It's that simple, and it always has been.
It's laughable you don't realize this.
Yeah I know, I hear that Apple is going to close down all the iPhone Screen Protector factories all around the world. and they are going to file a petition to write it into the constitution to stop people or companies from making or selling screen protectors for iPhone.
I am so angry right now.
Nice. Any reason that you're being so sarcastic? I'm not saying that this is a HUGE deal, just that there is a need for the protectors and that they don't interfere with touch functionality nor do they detract from how the phone looks. I just put a new one on yesterday and you'd be hard pressed to even tell it was on. No bubbles at all. Don't see the need to be a jerk though...
Your ignorance is blatant. Apple has never "listened" to their customers. Neither does Ferrari.
They just make what they think are really, really awesome products. If you don't like them; just move on to something you do like. It's that simple, and it always has been.
It's laughable you don't realize this.
No, the make what they think there exists a market for. If they just made really really awesome products then we would be seeing amazing stuff at prices barely anybody can pay, like a personal assistant robot, or flubber.
They are not THAT out of their minds
this despite widespread reports of scratches appearing quite easily on its handheld offerings for years.
Apple device screens are among the most durable and scratch-resistant you'll ever find. There's no actual need for any screen protection.
As for the ban, screen protection kind of defeats the purpose of oleophobic coatings, and does send the message that Apple's screens are in need of protection.
I've stopped using plastic screen protectors for my iPhone long ago, preferring a nice, thin, plastic/transparent backing. Works great.
Further, you can get your screen protectors elsewhere, just not in Apple Stores. No big deal.
I find that the iphones and ipod touches arre actually easier to scxratch then shown. My ipod touc scratched because i accidentally put it in my pocket with my keys.
Nice. Any reason that you're being so sarcastic? I'm not saying that this is a HUGE deal, just that there is a need for the protectors and that they don't interfere with touch functionality nor do they detract from how the phone looks. I just put a new one on yesterday and you'd be hard pressed to even tell it was on. No bubbles at all. Don't see the need to be a jerk though...
Oh you can't tell that I am really angry at Apple? How dare you mistook my anger as being sarcastic?
I mean after all, they are banning the iPhone screen protector. I feel that my rights has been violated!
This is exactly what the Mayans predicted would happen in 2010!
If the iPhone / iPod Touch screens don't need a film protector they won't sell. I have an iPhone 3G and after using it for a few days, I added an anti-glare, anti-fingerprint screen protector because I couldn't stand the glare or fingerprints.
Apple's censors are hard at work. They should simply let the customer decide whether they need a protector or not.
Apple could be addressing the glare issue on their future devices with a improved coating or are using specialized anti-reflective glass with the oleo-whatever coating, rendering the need for extra films unnecessary.
If this is true, this is a welcome change for the better for everyone. We get the clarity of glass with the anti-reflective nature of matte coated screens.
If not, then Apple is just being dicks.
Im not sure what is more rediculous, apples ban or the fanboys stupid excusses. Its a company, not your parents, move on.
I am not sure what's more ridiculous.... people who never bothered to learn basic spelling and punctuation in grammar school or those who never bother to spell-check.....
The thing is, if your screen's going to crack, it's going to crack with or without a screen protector. I've dropped my iPhone 3 times without any protection, and the only place showing a crack is the plastic around the dock connector.
I don't know about that. Your saying that the plastic film adds zero reinforcement? What if I put two screen films on? Ten? It has to improve it a little bit.
I wish someone could do some scientific testing to prove or disprove this.
Sounds like a job for the Myth Busters!
Your ignorance is blatant. Apple has never "listened" to their customers.
Actually, Apple does listen.
They just don't react to everything their customers ask for.
There is a difference, it's subtle but it's there.
People who cover their iPhone screen are just as likely to cover their furniture with plastic. It gets in the way and doesn't look as good.
Utter nonsense.
I've had iPhones from Day 1 and never had a scratch on the screen.
Neither have I, because I put a protector on it. Would I have? I don't know, but for about £3, why not?
Smart move by Apple.
No it isn't, it's the dumbest thing in the history of the world. If these things are so unnecessary then where's the harm in selling them and making a little profit?
Only the most rabid fanboy can possibly support this move. At best it's peculiar, at worst it's an example of what is becoming ever more paranoid and bizarre behaviour by Apple. Did a screen-protector salesman take Steve Jobs' parking space or something?
Utter nonsense.
Friendly tip? It's kind of customary to follow an interjection like that with something substantive. Otherwise you leave your audience hanging.
Would I have? I don't know, but for about £3, why not?
Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.
If these things are so unnecessary then where's the harm in selling them and making a little profit?
Two reasons. The first is the opportunity cost. Apple's retail stores have limited shelf space — 'cause of, y'know, physics — so they have to choose which products they stock. Dropping products from their inventory which sell poorly, or which customers have trouble with frees up that shelf space for other products. It's the same reason why The Gap doesn't sell blue jeans that are on fire.
The other reason is purely speculative, but supported by anecdotal evidence and plus it makes sense on its face: Customer support. Apple sells these things, so it's reasonable for customers who buy them to ask Apple store employees to put them on. Or to replace them when they crease, tear or fail to adhere. Or to give out new ones when iPhones have to be replaced under warranty. What we have here is a product that (a) the overwhelming majority of people do not want (b) nobody actually needs (c) causes headaches for Apple's retail staff, and finally (d) takes up shelf space that could be used for, just to pick a random example, upcoming iPad accessories.
True? No idea. But it seems to make sense to me. So I'm going with the plausible explanation rather than the one that assumes everybody but you is a drooling moron. Cause when I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, and not zebras. But maybe that's just me.
At best it's peculiar, at worst it's an example of what is becoming ever more paranoid and bizarre behaviour by Apple.
I'm with you that there's definitely evidence of something bizarre and paranoid going on here. But I don't think it's on Apple's part. Ahem.
More and more, Apple seems to be ignoring what people want in favor of what Steve Jobs is convinced they should want--Flash on the iPhone/Touch/iPad, user-replaceable batteries, support for more audio and video codecs. And now this.
But then you realize that they are always right...
Utter nonsense.
Neither have I, because I put a protector on it. Would I have? I don't know, but for about £3, why not?
No it isn't, it's the dumbest thing in the history of the world. If these things are so unnecessary then where's the harm in selling them and making a little profit?
Only the most rabid fanboy can possibly support this move. At best it's peculiar, at worst it's an example of what is becoming ever more paranoid and bizarre behaviour by Apple. Did a screen-protector salesman take Steve Jobs' parking space or something?
Funny thing is, no one outside the minority complaining on these Apple fansites actually gives a damn. Know why? Because it's not worth caring about. This will have as much effect on Apple as their decision to use track lighting in some stores instead of pot lights.
Who friggin cares about plastic screen protectors sold in Apple Stores?! LOL gimme a break.
More and more, Apple seems to be ignoring what people want in favor of what Steve Jobs is convinced they should want--Flash on the iPhone/Touch/iPad, user-replaceable batteries, support for more audio and video codecs. And now this.
Then it turns out Apple knows best. As usual. Questioning Apple in this manner is like criticizing Michael Phelps on his breaststroke.
But then you realize that they are always right...
I guess that must be why the iPhone's marketshare is declining and Android's is increasing, huh.
I guess that must be why the iPhone's marketshare is declining and Android's is increasing, huh.
I guess that means that Apple is #3 in only two years, out of nowhere, having single-handedly destroyed Windows Mobile, changing the face of the mobile industry almost overnight, and dictating the pace of change . . . right behind the world's biggest purveyor of mobile phones, and right behind a company that has been entrenched in the smartphone business for years now (RIM), which has to offer two-fer deals to move product.
No iPhone-killer yet, unfortunately. And it's been almost 3 years now. Apple still ahead of the game after all this time. One wonders if the competition is going to rip off Apple's IP, why the hell can't they do it right??
Of course, it's all fun and games until June.
Is that what you meant?
Funny thing is, no one outside the minority complaining on these Apple fansites actually gives a damn. Know why? Because it's not worth caring about. This will have as much effect on Apple as their decision to use track lighting in some stores instead of pot lights.
Who friggin cares about plastic screen protectors sold in Apple Stores?! LOL gimme a break.
Then it turns out Apple knows best. As usual. Questioning Apple in this manner is like criticizing Michael Phelps on his breaststroke.
And obviously the only opinions you hold are the ones dictated to you by Steve Jobs. The bigger Apple gets, the more arrogant and pig-headed it becomes. We're already beginning to see the fallout from that in the iPhone's marketshare, which is falling relative to Android's. Apple has become the new Microsoft.
This is totally false, or at best the existence of the "reports" is true, even though they have no basis in fact.
I think you should back this nonsense up or remove it from the article. We aren't Republican's here. You can't just repeat lies over and over until they are believed.
Amusing, your call for journalistic revision takes some real bravado (as opposed to the gray matter), especially considering your other thoughts... keep reading.
Other than a few nutbars with videos on YouTube of dubious authenticity, there are no "widespread reports" of problems with the iPhone screen scratching. The only serious attempts at testing the durability of the screen that I've seen show people scratching really hard across the surface with sets of keys without leaving a scratch. In fact, it's very very difficult to scratch an iPhone screen. It's tougher than any of the silly plastic coverings for sale that supposedly "protect it."
Wrong again... And I think you should check out your glass surroundings before calling people on YouTube 'nutbars' - you're on a Mac news/rumor forum posting about iPhone accessories, cowboy!
I'm afraid the screen protectors do eliminate scratches from metal objects like keys in your pocket or purse. My iPhone v1 had a screen protector and no scratches, I lived dangerously with the iPhone 3G and within a few days, lots of tiny little scratches, within a few weeks a couple deeper gouges, and now my 3GS is back in protector. Funny how experience always trumps idle chatter.
You might want to keep it gloved champ. It makes the surface a little less smooth, but you can change it. When the glass is scratched, good luck getting an Apple Store to replace it.
I wouldn't mind betting that Apple removed them because they don't want to get involved in a fraud lawsuit for selling products that actually don't do anything close to what they are advertised as doing. It's borderline fraud to be selling a plastic screen "protector" for a hardened, tempered glass screen.
Again, the 'fraud' and 'deceit' meter you're using needs recalibration. More likely the shelf space is better utilized for something more profitable/glamorous than $15 pieces of plastic - that's what drives 99% of this sort of thing in real life retail. Why do people always look to invent 'mystery' in their minds? Do you watch 'Ghost Hunters'?
You may want a full-fledged case for your iPhone and the chrome ring and the plastic back will certainly get scuffed, but the *last* thing you need protection for is the tough glass screen.
It ain't that tough, glass scratches pretty well. Anyone whose ever owned any pair of glasses or sunglasses knows this is pure fantasy. Maybe the average person doesn't share your Little Miss Muffet like gentile habits?