The online investor guys are making up the numbers, their methodology is flawed, they are fan boys trying to drive the release of the iPad to success - because we all know the device is an abject failure.
I think also that there has always been geek hostility to Apple's emphasis on consumers, ease of use, industrial design and integration and, for lack of a better term, an emotional connection to their devices (although that last, I think, arises inevitably from the first three).
I think what's heating up now is the way Apple is making a bid to carry its ideas into a truly mass market-- to actually change what we mean by "computing." As long as Apple stayed in its small market share computer niche for posers and fan boys and the easily duped, the vitriol could stay at an almost affectionate dull roar. Now that they're popping up in the hands of millions of average people who have no business even using a computer because they don't do the geek dance some folks are getting a little hysterical.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Ubiquitous, dead simple computing is undeniably the future, and Apple is there first and best. Barring horrible blunders, they have a fair bid to become the majority incumbent of this space. At that point, are most people to be pitied or sneered at? Will it be necessary to despise the whole idea of "what computing has come to", in much the manner of an audiophile bemoaning the rise of MP3s?
Fun!
In the way true geekdom, the more people you have to sneer at, the more righteous and powerful you feel. So unlike most things in life, it works out well for all involved.
Seriously. I'm rocking a first gen iPhone that bloody won't quit. I can strip and re-assemble a Mac Pro faster than you can, and supported an entire team of researchers at 3M - all on Macs. Point in fact tho - I am also Microsoft certified - but that was just a survival thing as a technician.
So now go back and read, carefully adjust your sarcasm filters - they were obviously overwhelmed.
In the way true geekdom, the more people you have to sneer at, the more righteous and powerful you feel. So unlike most things in life, it works out well for all involved.
True that, but more importantly the sneering geek will have been robbed of the power of operational expertise-- if a lot of people are using iPad type devices, there will be a lot less need for the devil's bargain where you have to suffer a geek's contempt because you need something figured out or explained or done.
A geek without portfolio is a whole 'nuther animal.
True that, but more importantly the sneering geek will have been robbed of the power of operational expertise-- if a lot of people are using iPad type devices, there will be a lot less need for the devil's bargain where you have to suffer a geek's contempt because you need something figured out or explained or done.
A geek without portfolio is a whole 'nuther animal.
So you're saying, they can be dangerous when cornered?
The Slate is rumored to arrive in June. About 2 months after the iPad.
Given that Apple has hundreds of thousands of pre-orders and the 3GS sold a million in 3 days I think 2 months is well within the timeframe for Apple selling a million before it launches.
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The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it.
Mods spreading FUD is both hilarious and plain sad.
First, we don't know how much RAM it has, and second, for general kind of tasks he's talking about the iPad should be fine...sketches, layout painting...within the context of a 1024x768 screen.
The Cortex A8 benches to around 2000 Dhrystone MIPS @ 1Ghz. In comparison to a Pentium III 1,354 MIPS @ 500Mhz and a C2D 2500 with 22305 MIPS @ 1.83 Ghz.
There's plenty of CPU and GPU to support any drawing, painting, layouts, sketching that can be done within the limits of the UI. A PIII class machine with a PowerVR GPU is more than able to support that.
Given that the Brushes App was one of the keynote examples it's hard pressed to claim that CPU/GPU or memory will be an issue.
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Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
Depends on what you mean by rival. If it's an A9 it's much closer and it beats the old Atom N270.
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The HP Slate is reported to be running on Atom - no surprises really with entry price of 400 euros.
And it's running win7 with far more requirements than the iOS.
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If it has a 9400M, it will be great for graphics performance and will run Lightroom as well as hold at least 2GB RAM with virtual memory.
Given that Win7 requires 1GB of RAM as a minimum I sure as heck hope it comes with 2GB of PHYSICAL RAM or it's going to be dog slow.
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But you can always plug in a screen-less Wacom via USB.
Which defeats the entire purpose of owning a slate.
ZDNet review of HP Slate...as is it's going to be an epic fail:
Win7 is the weakness and the lack of apps suitable for a small tablet. I'd rather have an upsized iPhone app on the iPad than struggle with a traditional Win7 app on the HP slate.
Win7 is the weakness and the lack of apps suitable for a small tablet. I'd rather have an upsized iPhone app on the iPad than struggle with a traditional Win7 app on the HP slate.
Heh. From the comments on the linked article:
Quote:
Apple marketing is working overtime with the iPad! It will have to because the iPad won't sell itself without the help. Don't get me wrong though, with the help of articles like this from you and Jason, the iPad will be a stunning success. Once again though, just like the iPhone, it will be through Apple's brilliant marketing efforts and in spite of the product's actual usefulness.
Which is #4 on the Apple Success Denial System (ASDS), with an extra dollop of "the press is in on it."
I am. Expect rudderless, embittered geeks to rush up to iPad users screaming "But it's not a real computer!" and attempt to wrest it from them.
Oh my, that is an image. I plan on taking my iPad with me on vacation in May. I'll have to watch closely for signs of enraged foamy mouthed geeks ready to charge at me.
The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it. Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
Wow - for a device where Apple has refused to provide specifics and isn't shipping so it can be torn down, you sure seem to know quite a bit about it's innards.
Oh my, that is an image. I plan on taking my iPad with me on vacation in May. I'll have to watch closely for signs of enraged foamy mouthed geeks ready to charge at me.
Well, fortunately, they tend not to be Ninjas, or anything. More of the Romero lumbering zombie than the Danny Boyle speedster.
I think also that there has always been geek hostility to Apple's emphasis on consumers, ease of use, industrial design and integration and, for lack of a better term, an emotional connection to their devices (although that last, I think, arises inevitably from the first three).
I think what's heating up now is the way Apple is making a bid to carry its ideas into a truly mass market-- to actually change what we mean by "computing." As long as Apple stayed in its small market share computer niche for posers and fan boys and the easily duped, the vitriol could stay at an almost affectionate dull roar. Now that they're popping up in the hands of millions of average people who have no business even using a computer because they don't do the geek dance some folks are getting a little hysterical.
Spot on!
Quote:
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Ubiquitous, dead simple computing is undeniably the future, and Apple is there first and best. Barring horrible blunders, they have a fair bid to become the majority incumbent of this space. At that point, are most people to be pitied or sneered at? Will it be necessary to despise the whole idea of "what computing has come to", in much the manner of an audiophile bemoaning the rise of MP3s?
Oh, the "elite" will always snear at the "unwashed". It happens in cars, audio gear, photography - all kinds of technology, not just computers. People who have issues of insecurity and inadequacy and intolerance for standards other than their own. Which makes their rants for "openness" even more ironically pathetic
The Slate is rumored to arrive in June. About 2 months after the iPad.
The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it. Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
Nobody ever ran Photoshop on a 500MHz mac? Or less?
It's not my style, but if people are getting paid to do magazine covers on iPhone, it doesn't get more "high-end" in graphics
You're assuming that Windows Mobile 7 will rock and not find a way to suck the battery in some bizarre way. I'd say that's a very big assumption and would buck known history of Microsoft.
Quote:
The HP Slate is reported to be running on Atom - no surprises really with entry price of 400 euros. If it has a 9400M, it will be great for graphics performance and will run Lightroom as well as hold at least 2GB RAM with virtual memory. I would doubt pressure sensitivity so not ideal for drawing but you never know - they may have a special pen.
But you can always plug in a screen-less Wacom via USB.
Lightroom is a little piggy on my new Macbook Pro, hardly any standard for speed and efficiency, so good luck with that.
First, we don't know how much RAM it has, and second, for general kind of tasks he's talking about the iPad should be fine...sketches, layout painting...within the context of a 1024x768 screen.
The Cortex A8 benches to around 2000 Dhrystone MIPS @ 1Ghz. In comparison to a Pentium III 1,354 MIPS @ 500Mhz and a C2D 2500 with 22305 MIPS @ 1.83 Ghz.
Right so 10x slower than what most Mac users are used to. Don't really see what's FUD about that. They could include a decent amount of RAM but you have to think if they included a lot, they'd tell us and follow it with 'isn't that awesome?'. Given the fact they didn't, I reckon it will have 512MB RAM. Minimum requirements for iWork on the desktop are 512MB and 1GB recommended. An optimized version running on a currently non-multitasking OS and low footprint OS could probably cope with 512MB.
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Originally Posted by vinea
Given that the Brushes App was one of the keynote examples it's hard pressed to claim that CPU/GPU or memory will be an issue.
If you read the Brushes spec, you will see you only get 4 layers because of the uh resource limitations. You don't suppose Apple 'brushed' over that little detail for the purposes of marketing.
The native resolution of the paintings are also 420 x 280 but they record the strokes so I guess they can redraw them at a higher resolution on export. Doesn't change the fact that you're drawing on that canvas size though. Desktop painting is done at 2k or above.
Actually the Brushes demo is interesting because they note zooming in 32x as opposed to 16x for the iPhone so it's either 512MB or 1GB.
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Originally Posted by vinea
Given that Win7 requires 1GB of RAM as a minimum I sure as heck hope it comes with 2GB of PHYSICAL RAM or it's going to be dog slow.
It's rumored to come with 2GB RAM but if it comes with 1GB like some netbooks, 2GB is just a simple install away.
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Originally Posted by vinea
Which defeats the entire purpose of owning a slate.
No it doesn't. The touch parts of the slate would be for everything else that are better with touch but don't need pressure sensitivity.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinea
ZDNet review of HP Slate...as is it's going to be an epic fail:
That review is really from the videos, there's been no hands-on. The main issue they point out is the control sizes but desktop controls aren't really any smaller than iPhone buttons. If accurate capacitive touch can let you control a paint brush cursor on an iPhone then it can let you press an average sized play button on a 10" slate.
There's also the option of using a cursor that you drag around like in the Money Island iphone game. It's actually not that bad and generally preferred for drawing so that your fingers don't get in the way.
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Originally Posted by oxygenhose
Nobody ever ran Photoshop on a 500MHz mac? Or less?
Yes but not very well and they still had virtual memory (hard drive based scratch).
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Originally Posted by oxygenhose
it doesn't get more "high-end" in graphics
When people start getting paid to do it on a regular basis, I will accept it as significant. Until then, it's a one-off marketing gimmick. To say that you can't get more "high-end in graphics" than painting with 4 layers on a 420 x 280 canvas, well it answers itself really.
The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it. Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
The HP Slate is reported to be running on Atom - no surprises really with entry price of 400 euros. If it has a 9400M, it will be great for graphics performance and will run Lightroom as well as hold at least 2GB RAM with virtual memory. I would doubt pressure sensitivity so not ideal for drawing but you never know - they may have a special pen.
But you can always plug in a screen-less Wacom via USB.
what? Except for battery life? As if this is no big deal? What's the difference between using a device for 2 hrs or 10 hrs? Hmm? The difference will be in which one I buy based on that fact a lone.
Won't be faster than an ATOM? In what machine? Are you seriously blinded by the 1GHz vs. 1.6 GHz numbers? Who are you TECHSTUD or Woohoo! ?
The online investor guys are making up the numbers, their methodology is flawed, they are fan boys trying to drive the release of the iPad to success - because we all know the device is an abject failure.
The iPad suxxors majorly, it doesn't have:
42 UBS ports
a Blu-ray drive
removeable battery
a front-facing camera
a rear facing camera
a cell chip to make phone calls
GPS
support for 1080p
a real keyboard
a real processor
a real OS (just that stoopid pathetic mobile version of OSX)
enough memory
enough storage space
free unlimited 3G
release with Verizon, TMobile, Sprint, Alltel, Cellular One, Blue Wireless, Bluegrass Cellular, ad nauseam...
AND
there have been scads of tablet before the iPad
AND
all these early adopters are fanbois who spend too much money for glitzy tech that is just a toy, nobody besides them or the great unwashed masses of clueless consumers who don't worship at the altar of featuredom will buy this.
in sci fi shows where they eat blue off world food
you see tablet's that are pure media plays
since the clouds are where the contents lays storage while important is not so big deal any more
<<i bought the 160 g ipod over the 64g touch >> i now see i was short sighted
feature less mean no bells or whistles to drain the batteries
the app stores and video pod casts> movies> songs> books >magazines > newspapers> streamed any thing streamed like netflix/hulu abc tnt scfy players makes this a pure media player
AND YOU you can add your own content with 3 steps or more FROM THE OWN LARGE LIBARY
and all of that mean zippo to me and millions
all this media content pales NEXT to THE games I WILL PLAY on the 3 rd gen model i will buy
and stupid b/w borders ebooks run $299 and do not much
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OK - let's get this out of the way:
The online investor guys are making up the numbers, their methodology is flawed, they are fan boys trying to drive the release of the iPad to success - because we all know the device is an abject failure.
The iPad suxxors majorly, it doesn't have:
42 UBS ports
a Blu-ray drive
...
SNIP!
awesome! made my day!
Good points.
I think also that there has always been geek hostility to Apple's emphasis on consumers, ease of use, industrial design and integration and, for lack of a better term, an emotional connection to their devices (although that last, I think, arises inevitably from the first three).
I think what's heating up now is the way Apple is making a bid to carry its ideas into a truly mass market-- to actually change what we mean by "computing." As long as Apple stayed in its small market share computer niche for posers and fan boys and the easily duped, the vitriol could stay at an almost affectionate dull roar. Now that they're popping up in the hands of millions of average people who have no business even using a computer because they don't do the geek dance some folks are getting a little hysterical.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Ubiquitous, dead simple computing is undeniably the future, and Apple is there first and best. Barring horrible blunders, they have a fair bid to become the majority incumbent of this space. At that point, are most people to be pitied or sneered at? Will it be necessary to despise the whole idea of "what computing has come to", in much the manner of an audiophile bemoaning the rise of MP3s?
Fun!
In the way true geekdom, the more people you have to sneer at, the more righteous and powerful you feel. So unlike most things in life, it works out well for all involved.
Successful troll is successful.
Enjoy your windouche 7 phone
LOLZ!
Seriously. I'm rocking a first gen iPhone that bloody won't quit. I can strip and re-assemble a Mac Pro faster than you can, and supported an entire team of researchers at 3M - all on Macs. Point in fact tho - I am also Microsoft certified - but that was just a survival thing as a technician.
So now go back and read, carefully adjust your sarcasm filters - they were obviously overwhelmed.
In the way true geekdom, the more people you have to sneer at, the more righteous and powerful you feel. So unlike most things in life, it works out well for all involved.
True that, but more importantly the sneering geek will have been robbed of the power of operational expertise-- if a lot of people are using iPad type devices, there will be a lot less need for the devil's bargain where you have to suffer a geek's contempt because you need something figured out or explained or done.
A geek without portfolio is a whole 'nuther animal.
True that, but more importantly the sneering geek will have been robbed of the power of operational expertise-- if a lot of people are using iPad type devices, there will be a lot less need for the devil's bargain where you have to suffer a geek's contempt because you need something figured out or explained or done.
A geek without portfolio is a whole 'nuther animal.
So you're saying, they can be dangerous when cornered?
The Slate is rumored to arrive in June. About 2 months after the iPad.
Given that Apple has hundreds of thousands of pre-orders and the 3GS sold a million in 3 days I think 2 months is well within the timeframe for Apple selling a million before it launches.
The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it.
Mods spreading FUD is both hilarious and plain sad.
First, we don't know how much RAM it has, and second, for general kind of tasks he's talking about the iPad should be fine...sketches, layout painting...within the context of a 1024x768 screen.
The Cortex A8 benches to around 2000 Dhrystone MIPS @ 1Ghz. In comparison to a Pentium III 1,354 MIPS @ 500Mhz and a C2D 2500 with 22305 MIPS @ 1.83 Ghz.
There's plenty of CPU and GPU to support any drawing, painting, layouts, sketching that can be done within the limits of the UI. A PIII class machine with a PowerVR GPU is more than able to support that.
Given that the Brushes App was one of the keynote examples it's hard pressed to claim that CPU/GPU or memory will be an issue.
Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
Depends on what you mean by rival. If it's an A9 it's much closer and it beats the old Atom N270.
The HP Slate is reported to be running on Atom - no surprises really with entry price of 400 euros.
And it's running win7 with far more requirements than the iOS.
If it has a 9400M, it will be great for graphics performance and will run Lightroom as well as hold at least 2GB RAM with virtual memory.
Given that Win7 requires 1GB of RAM as a minimum I sure as heck hope it comes with 2GB of PHYSICAL RAM or it's going to be dog slow.
But you can always plug in a screen-less Wacom via USB.
Which defeats the entire purpose of owning a slate.
ZDNet review of HP Slate...as is it's going to be an epic fail:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7...col1;post-7611
Win7 is the weakness and the lack of apps suitable for a small tablet. I'd rather have an upsized iPhone app on the iPad than struggle with a traditional Win7 app on the HP slate.
ZDNet review of HP Slate...as is it's going to be an epic fail:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7...col1;post-7611
Win7 is the weakness and the lack of apps suitable for a small tablet. I'd rather have an upsized iPhone app on the iPad than struggle with a traditional Win7 app on the HP slate.
Heh. From the comments on the linked article:
Apple marketing is working overtime with the iPad! It will have to because the iPad won't sell itself without the help. Don't get me wrong though, with the help of articles like this from you and Jason, the iPad will be a stunning success. Once again though, just like the iPhone, it will be through Apple's brilliant marketing efforts and in spite of the product's actual usefulness.
Which is #4 on the Apple Success Denial System (ASDS), with an extra dollop of "the press is in on it."
So you're saying, they can be dangerous when cornered?
I am. Expect rudderless, embittered geeks to rush up to iPad users screaming "But it's not a real computer!" and attempt to wrest it from them.
I am. Expect rudderless, embittered geeks to rush up to iPad users screaming "But it's not a real computer!" and attempt to wrest it from them.
Oh my, that is an image. I plan on taking my iPad with me on vacation in May. I'll have to watch closely for signs of enraged foamy mouthed geeks ready to charge at me.
Can it play DivX or XviD..? If not, I'm afraid netbook is still the best on-the-go video player...
Only if you torrent movies. If you rip from DVD's you own, neither of the codecs you mention are relevant.
The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it. Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
Wow - for a device where Apple has refused to provide specifics and isn't shipping so it can be torn down, you sure seem to know quite a bit about it's innards.
Oh my, that is an image. I plan on taking my iPad with me on vacation in May. I'll have to watch closely for signs of enraged foamy mouthed geeks ready to charge at me.
Well, fortunately, they tend not to be Ninjas, or anything. More of the Romero lumbering zombie than the Danny Boyle speedster.
Good points.
I think also that there has always been geek hostility to Apple's emphasis on consumers, ease of use, industrial design and integration and, for lack of a better term, an emotional connection to their devices (although that last, I think, arises inevitably from the first three).
I think what's heating up now is the way Apple is making a bid to carry its ideas into a truly mass market-- to actually change what we mean by "computing." As long as Apple stayed in its small market share computer niche for posers and fan boys and the easily duped, the vitriol could stay at an almost affectionate dull roar. Now that they're popping up in the hands of millions of average people who have no business even using a computer because they don't do the geek dance some folks are getting a little hysterical.
Spot on!
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Ubiquitous, dead simple computing is undeniably the future, and Apple is there first and best. Barring horrible blunders, they have a fair bid to become the majority incumbent of this space. At that point, are most people to be pitied or sneered at? Will it be necessary to despise the whole idea of "what computing has come to", in much the manner of an audiophile bemoaning the rise of MP3s?
Oh, the "elite" will always snear at the "unwashed". It happens in cars, audio gear, photography - all kinds of technology, not just computers. People who have issues of insecurity and inadequacy and intolerance for standards other than their own. Which makes their rants for "openness" even more ironically pathetic
Fun!
Indeed!
Successful troll is successful.
A few readers need to have their sarcasm detectors rewired...
So you're saying, they can be dangerous when cornered?
impotent rage can still be a dangerous thing...
The Slate is rumored to arrive in June. About 2 months after the iPad.
The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it. Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
Nobody ever ran Photoshop on a 500MHz mac? Or less?
It's not my style, but if people are getting paid to do magazine covers on iPhone, it doesn't get more "high-end" in graphics
You're assuming that Windows Mobile 7 will rock and not find a way to suck the battery in some bizarre way. I'd say that's a very big assumption and would buck known history of Microsoft.
The HP Slate is reported to be running on Atom - no surprises really with entry price of 400 euros. If it has a 9400M, it will be great for graphics performance and will run Lightroom as well as hold at least 2GB RAM with virtual memory. I would doubt pressure sensitivity so not ideal for drawing but you never know - they may have a special pen.
But you can always plug in a screen-less Wacom via USB.
Lightroom is a little piggy on my new Macbook Pro, hardly any standard for speed and efficiency, so good luck with that.
First, we don't know how much RAM it has, and second, for general kind of tasks he's talking about the iPad should be fine...sketches, layout painting...within the context of a 1024x768 screen.
The Cortex A8 benches to around 2000 Dhrystone MIPS @ 1Ghz. In comparison to a Pentium III 1,354 MIPS @ 500Mhz and a C2D 2500 with 22305 MIPS @ 1.83 Ghz.
Right so 10x slower than what most Mac users are used to. Don't really see what's FUD about that. They could include a decent amount of RAM but you have to think if they included a lot, they'd tell us and follow it with 'isn't that awesome?'. Given the fact they didn't, I reckon it will have 512MB RAM. Minimum requirements for iWork on the desktop are 512MB and 1GB recommended. An optimized version running on a currently non-multitasking OS and low footprint OS could probably cope with 512MB.
Given that the Brushes App was one of the keynote examples it's hard pressed to claim that CPU/GPU or memory will be an issue.
If you read the Brushes spec, you will see you only get 4 layers because of the uh resource limitations. You don't suppose Apple 'brushed' over that little detail for the purposes of marketing.
The native resolution of the paintings are also 420 x 280 but they record the strokes so I guess they can redraw them at a higher resolution on export. Doesn't change the fact that you're drawing on that canvas size though. Desktop painting is done at 2k or above.
Actually the Brushes demo is interesting because they note zooming in 32x as opposed to 16x for the iPhone so it's either 512MB or 1GB.
Given that Win7 requires 1GB of RAM as a minimum I sure as heck hope it comes with 2GB of PHYSICAL RAM or it's going to be dog slow.
It's rumored to come with 2GB RAM but if it comes with 1GB like some netbooks, 2GB is just a simple install away.
Which defeats the entire purpose of owning a slate.
No it doesn't. The touch parts of the slate would be for everything else that are better with touch but don't need pressure sensitivity.
ZDNet review of HP Slate...as is it's going to be an epic fail:
That review is really from the videos, there's been no hands-on. The main issue they point out is the control sizes but desktop controls aren't really any smaller than iPhone buttons. If accurate capacitive touch can let you control a paint brush cursor on an iPhone then it can let you press an average sized play button on a 10" slate.
There's also the option of using a cursor that you drag around like in the Money Island iphone game. It's actually not that bad and generally preferred for drawing so that your fingers don't get in the way.
Nobody ever ran Photoshop on a 500MHz mac? Or less?
Yes but not very well and they still had virtual memory (hard drive based scratch).
it doesn't get more "high-end" in graphics
When people start getting paid to do it on a regular basis, I will accept it as significant. Until then, it's a one-off marketing gimmick. To say that you can't get more "high-end in graphics" than painting with 4 layers on a 420 x 280 canvas, well it answers itself really.
The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it. Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.
The HP Slate is reported to be running on Atom - no surprises really with entry price of 400 euros. If it has a 9400M, it will be great for graphics performance and will run Lightroom as well as hold at least 2GB RAM with virtual memory. I would doubt pressure sensitivity so not ideal for drawing but you never know - they may have a special pen.
But you can always plug in a screen-less Wacom via USB.
Won't be faster than an ATOM? In what machine? Are you seriously blinded by the 1GHz vs. 1.6 GHz numbers? Who are you TECHSTUD or Woohoo! ?
OK - let's get this out of the way:
The online investor guys are making up the numbers, their methodology is flawed, they are fan boys trying to drive the release of the iPad to success - because we all know the device is an abject failure.
The iPad suxxors majorly, it doesn't have:
42 UBS ports
a Blu-ray drive
removeable battery
a front-facing camera
a rear facing camera
a cell chip to make phone calls
GPS
support for 1080p
a real keyboard
a real processor
a real OS (just that stoopid pathetic mobile version of OSX)
enough memory
enough storage space
free unlimited 3G
release with Verizon, TMobile, Sprint, Alltel, Cellular One, Blue Wireless, Bluegrass Cellular, ad nauseam...
AND
there have been scads of tablet before the iPad
AND
all these early adopters are fanbois who spend too much money for glitzy tech that is just a toy, nobody besides them or the great unwashed masses of clueless consumers who don't worship at the altar of featuredom will buy this.
in sci fi shows where they eat blue off world food
you see tablet's that are pure media plays
since the clouds are where the contents lays storage while important is not so big deal any more
<<i bought the 160 g ipod over the 64g touch >> i now see i was short sighted
feature less mean no bells or whistles to drain the batteries
the app stores and video pod casts> movies> songs> books >magazines > newspapers> streamed any thing streamed like netflix/hulu abc tnt scfy players makes this a pure media player
AND YOU you can add your own content with 3 steps or more FROM THE OWN LARGE LIBARY
and all of that mean zippo to me and millions
all this media content pales NEXT to THE games I WILL PLAY on the 3 rd gen model i will buy
and stupid b/w borders ebooks run $299 and do not much
i know you post was a joke
no one is that stupoid
school children will learn much more
and doctors will save lives
peace 9
Netbooks aren't better at anything. The iPad is better at everything!
It is better than any notebook. It is better than any desktop. It is better than any smartphone.
WTH are you talking about?