Apple iPhone OS 4.0 to introduce Multitasking, 100 other features

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  • Reply 21 of 273
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,167member
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Glenn Beck? I believe your Chronic Apple Indignation has driven you mad.



    Now that Apple addressed most of the trolls whining points. The trolls will go back to "Apple Sucks?" statements.
  • Reply 22 of 273
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 2,681member
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    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    I don't care how the whole 'iAds' thing is spun, they're annoying to the vast majority of users.



    So don't click them or buy the non-ad supported version of the title. And while you may have formed your own opinion, please don't align the "vast majority" of users with it. I seriously doubt you know the vast majority of users out there and have asked them for their opinion.



    To me, it seems like a fairly useful and informative ad system; if you run across a product you're interested in, you can get all the information you need without leaving the application and dragging you into the web browser.
  • Reply 23 of 273
    cavallocavallo Posts: 57member
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    If you try a free app or even keep using one why should you be angry that the developer gets to eat?



    I don't believe I said a word about anyone's dietary habits. If the developer can find no better way to monetize his app, it was probably not worth the download. In fact, I've already deleted several 'free' apps from this shiny little iPad because they were nothing much more than ad trojans. As the end user, my job is to pay for apps that do a job for me - not to be tricked into paying for crap.
  • Reply 24 of 273
    bcottenbcotten Posts: 11member
    What a complete JOKE. I have been a loyal apple'ist for ages... but this is the final straw. SCREW IT
  • Reply 25 of 273
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by Cavallo View Post


    Ads are ads. There is no such thing as 'more or less' annoying. Anyone with a brain should see them for the intrusion they are. If anything, the idea behind these ads is more evil than usual, since they'll be unavoidable, and better able to lull the user into thinking that something malevolent and coercive is actually personal and helpful.



    I didn't see anything that seemed to indicate that these ads would be any more "unavoidable" than current ads.



    I don't much like advertising, but given that ad supported content is a reality, Apple's scheme doesn't appear to make things either better or worse for the enduser.
  • Reply 26 of 273
    mazda 3smazda 3s Posts: 1,613member
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    Originally Posted by bcotten View Post


    What a complete JOKE. I have been a loyal apple'ist for ages... but this is the final straw. SCREW IT



    Oh give me a break. The iPhone 3G has half the RAM as the 3GS if I recall correctly. Multitasking would likely CHOKE!



    I can't believe you registered just to post that...
  • Reply 27 of 273
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by bcotten View Post


    What a complete JOKE. I have been a loyal apple'ist for ages... but this is the final straw. SCREW IT



    Yes, thank you for registering to let us know you're done with Apple. You join the ranks of thousands of single post "Apple has really crossed a line this time they're dead to me" folks before you.
  • Reply 28 of 273
    iguesssoiguessso Posts: 132member
    So, reading between the lines re multitasking, some guesses on how it will be implemented:



    1. I think for most apps what they've added is more akin to suspending than multitasking. The OS saves the entire state of the app, and then swaps it back in to RAM when the user wants to switch back.



    2. In addition, there will be specific services via some published APIs that can actually get some CPU time. Background music, push notifications, location change callbacks, network streaming (like the photo upload example they gave) and ???. I doubt you will be able to design your app to truly continue running in the background, calculating pi or whatever.
  • Reply 29 of 273
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
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    Originally Posted by bcotten View Post


    What a complete JOKE. I have been a loyal apple'ist for ages... but this is the final straw. SCREW IT



    Well... Sometimes to move technology forward, some things (e.g. less capable devices) have to be left behind.



    It's not like the iPhone 2g/3g is going to lose any of its current functionality, and if these new 'features' had not been announced, there'd be little/no complaint anyway.
  • Reply 30 of 273
    bcottenbcotten Posts: 11member
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Yes, thank you for registering to let us know you're done with Apple. You join the ranks of thousands of single post "Apple has really crossed a line this time they're dead to me" folks before you.



    Here's post #2, if you're counting.



    I guess it's the same reasoning behind not having the iPhone 2G MMS? Or not supporting Flash on the iPad, even though it's touted as the ultimate web browsing device? I've been a huge supporter of Apple.. I love their products. I have a 24" iMac, an iPhone 2G, 3G, Macbook, Macbook Pro, Powerbook from back in the day... but at some point, you have to realize that they're just having us bend over for them.
  • Reply 31 of 273
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 2,681member
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    Originally Posted by Cavallo View Post


    I've already deleted several 'free' apps from this shiny little iPad because they were nothing much more than ad trojans. As the end user, my job is to pay for apps that do a job for me - not to be tricked into paying for crap.



    I'm not sure I understand your problem? How exactly did you pay for the free application!?
  • Reply 32 of 273
    prof. peabodyprof. peabody Posts: 2,860member
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    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    Very Cool, and did anyone else happen to notice that the screen on that iPhone they're displaying looks to (finally) be 16:9?



    I think you are just imagining things with your eyes or the picture is distorted or something. It looks the same to me.



    Also, 16:10 (the current ratio) is more "natural" and if the resolution of the new iPhone screen part is going to be exactly doubled from the current one (as we have been told already), then it isn't really likely at all that they are moving to 16:9.
  • Reply 33 of 273
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 2,681member
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    Originally Posted by bcotten View Post


    What a complete JOKE. I have been a loyal apple'ist for ages... but this is the final straw. SCREW IT



    Nope. Not enough memory. Not sure why this was a surprise to anyone, unless you just don't understand what multitasking is and how it works.
  • Reply 34 of 273
    bcottenbcotten Posts: 11member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    Well... Sometimes to move technology forward, some things (e.g. less capable devices) have to be left behind.



    It's not like the iPhone 2g/3g is going to lose any of its current functionality, and if these new 'features' had not been announced, there'd be little/no complaint anyway.



    #3:



    I've been complaining about no multi-tasking for ages, but have been assured my pals at the Apple Store that "it's coming." And when it does, it doesn't even support an iPhone model that they are CURRENTLY SELLING.
  • Reply 35 of 273
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by ToomeyND View Post


    I noticed the screen to be a bit "long" as well. looks good.



    There was an image a couple months ago showing a longer and thinner G4 iPhone. it looked wonky to me, but it could be real. The only problem is with the previous two models using 3:2. I have to assume that the simplest answer is that Apple thought out the future of the display ratio well in advance so they wouldn't have to change it, cost them, the devs and users in the process.





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    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    TCopy and paste in iphone isn't better, it's just different.



    You're right, it's different because it's the only one that works the same throughout the entire system regardless of the item of field. In other words, it's the only one that is complete. That a difference people tend to like over the half-assed versions on Android and WebOS.



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    As far as multitasking goes, I've already shown numerous people on many occasions how my battery life is NOT effected while running up to 10 apps (all doing some kind of function in the background.)



    Battery life and performance are affected. Using APIs is the only intelligent option. Watch how the other platforms fall in line behind Apple once again.





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    Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post


    Before the sarcasm begins: what Apple has done to make this different from every other phones multitasking, is to provide API's that allow the app to only use the resources that it requires. So that app doesn't hog up more than it needs.



    How long before Android and MS announce the same thing? If I go with Teckstudian logic the idea for multi-tasking APIs instead of rampant backgrounding of all apps were my idea from over a year ago and Apple should give me money.





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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Yes, thank you for registering to let us know you're done with Apple. You join the ranks of thousands of single post "Apple has really crossed a line this time they're dead to me" folks before you.



    How dare Apple allow devs to [Ic]hoose[/I] a more interactive ads that make the app more enjoyable and help keep the app free over simply allowing them to go with weaker ad banners that may force them charge for their apps. The nerve! \
  • Reply 36 of 273
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
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    Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post


    I'm not I understand the problem? How exactly did you pay for the free application!?



    I was thinking the same thing
  • Reply 37 of 273
    cavallocavallo Posts: 57member
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    Originally Posted by mjtomlin View Post


    I'm not sure I understand your problem? How exactly did you pay for the free application!?



    I'm not sure about you, son, but my time is worth money. I get irritated when people steal it.
  • Reply 38 of 273
    mjtomlinmjtomlin Posts: 2,681member
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    Originally Posted by bcotten View Post


    I guess it's the same reasoning behind not having the iPhone 2G MMS?



    Memory had nothing to do with lack of MMS in the original iPhone... it was the cell radio used that prevented it from being possible, so it was a hardware issue.
  • Reply 39 of 273
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bcotten View Post


    #3:



    I've been complaining about no multi-tasking for ages, but have been assured my pals at the Apple Store that "it's coming." And when it does, it doesn't even support an iPhone model that they are CURRENTLY SELLING.



    128MB in the 3G model, 256MB in the 3GS. The 3G already gets slowdowns and Safari page refreshes just from having iPod running and other switching between apps.
  • Reply 40 of 273
    rob55rob55 Posts: 1,291member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bcotten View Post


    Here's post #2, if you're counting.



    I guess it's the same reasoning behind not having the iPhone 2G MMS? Or not supporting Flash on the iPad, even though it's touted as the ultimate web browsing device? I've been a huge supporter of Apple.. I love their products. I have a 24" iMac, an iPhone 2G, 3G, Macbook, Macbook Pro, Powerbook from back in the day... but at some point, you have to realize that they're just having us bend over for them.



    Well if you've got all that stuff, what's another couple hundred for a new 3GS or whatever might be coming this summer from them. The 3G will be 2 years old this summer and in mobile phone terms, that's quite old.
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