Please go back and read our previous posts, as I have made it extremely clear that the 10 songs a month are MP3/DRM-free, which means that they will play on any device that supports the MP3 file format... Forever.
And you are still not understanding that I get that. I am asking what of the million of songs that you RENT? You have not answered. CAN THEY PLAY ON DEVICES OTHER THAN A ZUNE! That is all I want to know!
Please hold on a sec while I run an image search for facepalms larger than 10 megapixels.
"I realized just before writing this that my argument would have no basis if I compared music to music, so I've decided instead to compare music to software as if they were equivalent in any way."
Sorry but this 'alleged' quote is not from anything that I ever posted, and I challenge you to provide the URL from which it came.
A sad day for those who try to argue against the stereotype of blind Apple fanboyism. Every second during which MobileMe or Ping remain online serves as further proof that Apple is not an internet company by any stretch of the imagination.
iTunes, the App store, and the iBook store are online, and appear to be doing well. And I think MobileMe is nice, too. Especially remote wipe and find my phone.
And you are still not understanding that I get that. I am asking what of the million of songs that you RENT? You have not answered. CAN THEY PLAY ON DEVICES OTHER THAN A ZUNE! That is all I want to know!
What Aren't You Comprehending Here?
No They Can't... No more than Apps purchased from Apple's App Store can play back on Android, WebOS, Symbian/etc. devices, or books purchased from Amazon's Kindle store can be read in Apple iBooks.
I can play them on my iMac, though... On days I feel like listening to the other 'million' songs, I guess I could lug my iMac around with me. Bet that'll put some meat on my skinny calves.
No They Can't... No more than Apps purchased from Apple's App Store can play back on Android, WebOS, Symbian/etc. devices, or books purchased from Amazon's Kindle store can be read in Apple iBooks.
Can we stick with MUSIC not Software!!? All software can not be used on multiple platforms. We all understand that!. But if you want to talk about software sure! Apple has a lot more devices currently that support their iOS applications. Are there Zune applications? Yes? No? if so, I bet they can only be used on Zune correct? my iOS applications can be used on my iPad, iPhone,iPod Touch,and maybe soon Apple TV. But again I was really trying to stick to music and you dragged me down the rabbit hole!
The subject is relevant to this thread because PING is obviously Apple's retort to the Zune platform's (long-standing) social networking integration, only there's no subscription model to match the Zune Pass (yet).
: Please! That is nonsense!
Zune started social networking. What a joke!
If it is as you say, isn't Zune itself a retort to iPod, and Windows a repay to Mac ( you started it, see ? )?
No they can't... No more than apps purchased from apple's app store can play back on android, webos, symbian/etc. Devices, or books purchased from amazon's kindle store can be read in apple ibooks.
you are wrong! There is an amazon kindle app for ipad and iphone where you can read your amazon kindle books on ipad, iphone, or ipod touch
Can we stick with MUSIC not Software!!? All software can not be used on multiple platforms. We all understand that!. But if you want to talk about software sure! Apple has a lot more devices currently that support their iOS applications. Are there Zune applications? Yes? No? if so, I bet they can only be used on Zune correct? my iOS applications can be used on my iPad, iPhone,iPod Touch,and maybe soon Apple TV. But again I was really trying to stick to music and you dragged me down the rabbit hole!
The Zune Pass is a music rental service, with the 'option' of keeping 10 DRM-free/MP3 songs a month if the subscriber so chooses.
Any/all songs downloaded as a rental will be readily available to the subscriber as long as the subscription is maintained, and any songs downloaded as part of the 10 free songs a month are the subscriber's for life.
Please... look up the definition of the word 'RENT', and all will be revealed.
you are wrong! There is an amazon kindle app for ipad and iphone where you can read your amazon kindle books on ipad, iphone, or ipod touch
As I am holding my iPad in my hands at this moment, N O N E of the books I have purchased through the Kindle app can be read in iBooks, nor can A N Y of the books I have purchased through Apple's iBook Store be read via my iPad's Kindle app... The formats are Proprietary.
Please go back and read our previous posts, as I have made it extremely clear that the 10 songs a month are MP3/DRM-free, which means that they will play on any device that supports the MP3 file format... Forever.
Those ten songs a month, any of them have a name that one might know of?
Abandoning an Apple iDevise... That's a pretty tall order on the assumption scale!
The Zune Pass is a music rental service, with the 'option' of keeping 10 DRM-free/MP3 songs a month if the subscriber so chooses.
Any/all songs downloaded as a rental will be readily available to the subscriber as long as the subscription is maintained, and any songs downloaded as part of the 10 free a konth are the subscriber's for life.
Please... look up the definition of the word 'RENT', and all will be revealed.
: So?
You like it don't you?
Many people here do not.
: Why that bothers you?
My wife is not the richest woman in the world, but i chose her, go figure why she pick me, understand what i mean?
The Zune Pass is a music rental service, with the 'option' of keeping 10 DRM-free/MP3 songs a month if the subscriber so chooses.
Any/all songs downloaded as a rental will be readily available to the subscriber as long as the subscription is maintained, and any songs downloaded as part of the 10 free songs a month are the subscriber's for life.
Please... look up the definition of the word 'RENT', and all will be revealed.
Oh I know rent, which is why i bought my house, not rent it. I and many other millions out there rather own our music and buy it when i want to buy it. not say "oh i need to get my 10 songs for the month" even if i rather not have those songs. Look I love music that is why I use services like Pandora to explore more music and that I have. And the beauty of Pandora is I can play it virtually anywhere I like. I can play it on my iDevices, my computer, my Apple TV (using AirFoil currently). No need to download and sync across ONE device (Zune and Zune only). I just play it and its free to discover new music. If I like a particular song or artist enough that I will never get tired of. Than I buy it!
That's Nice... but I still prefer the ZUNE Marketplace's social networking implementation better at this point, if for no other reason than Apple's iTunes Store model is not well set up to support the kind of true music sharing/socializing system that the ZUNE Marketplace currently utilizes.
That's the beauty of having such a well-implemented subscription service as the ZUNE Pass, something that would severely impact Apple's current - 'you buy'... 'you don't like'... 'Too Bad, We've Already Got Our Money' - iTunes paradigm/scheme.
As I am holding my iPad in my hands at this moment, N O N E of the books I have purchased through the Kindle app can be read in iBooks, nor can A N Y of the books I have purchased through Apple's iBook Store be read via my iPad's Kindle app... The formats are Proprietary.
End of Story
Than you doing something wrong!! I have bought Amazon books and have the Kindle App for iPad and I read them just fine. Check yourself again! The only thing you said that is true is that Amazon's eBooks are proprietary. Apple's iBooks use open ePub. Now if the book publishers put some DRM shrink around that "open" ePub format, well that is not Apple's fault. Blame the content creators. But your Amazon eBooks are by no way "open"!! Look it up
I will not join Ping until it uses my nickname and not the name on my credit card. I read it also changes the name on your reviews from your nickname to the one on your credit card. Major fail, Steve! Do you want me to take my credit card off my iTunes account so I can use a faux name to protect my privacy?
you better had because i'm sure your the only person in the world on itunes with that name
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Please go back and read our previous posts, as I have made it extremely clear that the 10 songs a month are MP3/DRM-free, which means that they will play on any device that supports the MP3 file format... Forever.
And you are still not understanding that I get that. I am asking what of the million of songs that you RENT? You have not answered. CAN THEY PLAY ON DEVICES OTHER THAN A ZUNE! That is all I want to know!
Wait a second. Wow. What'd you just say?
Please hold on a sec while I run an image search for facepalms larger than 10 megapixels.
"I realized just before writing this that my argument would have no basis if I compared music to music, so I've decided instead to compare music to software as if they were equivalent in any way."
Sorry but this 'alleged' quote is not from anything that I ever posted, and I challenge you to provide the URL from which it came.
A sad day for those who try to argue against the stereotype of blind Apple fanboyism. Every second during which MobileMe or Ping remain online serves as further proof that Apple is not an internet company by any stretch of the imagination.
iTunes, the App store, and the iBook store are online, and appear to be doing well. And I think MobileMe is nice, too. Especially remote wipe and find my phone.
And you are still not understanding that I get that. I am asking what of the million of songs that you RENT? You have not answered. CAN THEY PLAY ON DEVICES OTHER THAN A ZUNE! That is all I want to know!
What Aren't You Comprehending Here?
No They Can't... No more than Apps purchased from Apple's App Store can play back on Android, WebOS, Symbian/etc. devices, or books purchased from Amazon's Kindle store can be read in Apple iBooks.
Maybe someday Apple will see fit to 'invent' an iPass
Lol too late, the state of Illinois already stole that name. That is out tollway sensor's name.
I can play them on my iMac, though... On days I feel like listening to the other 'million' songs, I guess I could lug my iMac around with me. Bet that'll put some meat on my skinny calves.
LOL. Nice
What Aren't You Comprehending Here?
No They Can't... No more than Apps purchased from Apple's App Store can play back on Android, WebOS, Symbian/etc. devices, or books purchased from Amazon's Kindle store can be read in Apple iBooks.
Can we stick with MUSIC not Software!!? All software can not be used on multiple platforms. We all understand that!. But if you want to talk about software sure! Apple has a lot more devices currently that support their iOS applications. Are there Zune applications? Yes? No? if so, I bet they can only be used on Zune correct? my iOS applications can be used on my iPad, iPhone,iPod Touch,and maybe soon Apple TV. But again I was really trying to stick to music and you dragged me down the rabbit hole!
The subject is relevant to this thread because PING is obviously Apple's retort to the Zune platform's (long-standing) social networking integration, only there's no subscription model to match the Zune Pass (yet).
Zune started social networking. What a joke!
If it is as you say, isn't Zune itself a retort to iPod, and Windows a repay to Mac ( you started it, see ? )?
what aren't you comprehending here?
No they can't... No more than apps purchased from apple's app store can play back on android, webos, symbian/etc. Devices, or books purchased from amazon's kindle store can be read in apple ibooks.
you are wrong! There is an amazon kindle app for ipad and iphone where you can read your amazon kindle books on ipad, iphone, or ipod touch
Can we stick with MUSIC not Software!!? All software can not be used on multiple platforms. We all understand that!. But if you want to talk about software sure! Apple has a lot more devices currently that support their iOS applications. Are there Zune applications? Yes? No? if so, I bet they can only be used on Zune correct? my iOS applications can be used on my iPad, iPhone,iPod Touch,and maybe soon Apple TV. But again I was really trying to stick to music and you dragged me down the rabbit hole!
The Zune Pass is a music rental service, with the 'option' of keeping 10 DRM-free/MP3 songs a month if the subscriber so chooses.
Any/all songs downloaded as a rental will be readily available to the subscriber as long as the subscription is maintained, and any songs downloaded as part of the 10 free songs a month are the subscriber's for life.
Please... look up the definition of the word 'RENT', and all will be revealed.
you are wrong! There is an amazon kindle app for ipad and iphone where you can read your amazon kindle books on ipad, iphone, or ipod touch
As I am holding my iPad in my hands at this moment, N O N E of the books I have purchased through the Kindle app can be read in iBooks, nor can A N Y of the books I have purchased through Apple's iBook Store be read via my iPad's Kindle app... The formats are Proprietary.
End of Story
Please go back and read our previous posts, as I have made it extremely clear that the 10 songs a month are MP3/DRM-free, which means that they will play on any device that supports the MP3 file format... Forever.
Those ten songs a month, any of them have a name that one might know of?
Abandoning an Apple iDevise... That's a pretty tall order on the assumption scale!
The Zune Pass is a music rental service, with the 'option' of keeping 10 DRM-free/MP3 songs a month if the subscriber so chooses.
Any/all songs downloaded as a rental will be readily available to the subscriber as long as the subscription is maintained, and any songs downloaded as part of the 10 free a konth are the subscriber's for life.
Please... look up the definition of the word 'RENT', and all will be revealed.
You like it don't you?
Many people here do not.
My wife is not the richest woman in the world, but i chose her, go figure why she pick me, understand what i mean?
The Zune Pass is a music rental service, with the 'option' of keeping 10 DRM-free/MP3 songs a month if the subscriber so chooses.
Any/all songs downloaded as a rental will be readily available to the subscriber as long as the subscription is maintained, and any songs downloaded as part of the 10 free songs a month are the subscriber's for life.
Please... look up the definition of the word 'RENT', and all will be revealed.
Oh I know rent, which is why i bought my house, not rent it. I and many other millions out there rather own our music and buy it when i want to buy it. not say "oh i need to get my 10 songs for the month" even if i rather not have those songs. Look I love music that is why I use services like Pandora to explore more music and that I have. And the beauty of Pandora is I can play it virtually anywhere I like. I can play it on my iDevices, my computer, my Apple TV (using AirFoil currently). No need to download and sync across ONE device (Zune and Zune only). I just play it and its free to discover new music. If I like a particular song or artist enough that I will never get tired of. Than I buy it!
Zune started social networking. What a joke!
If it is as you say, isn't Zune itself a retort to iPod, and Windows a repay to Mac ( you started it, see ? )?
Don't be such a "Squirt"! Zune Squirt that is!
That's Nice... but I still prefer the ZUNE Marketplace's social networking implementation better at this point, if for no other reason than Apple's iTunes Store model is not well set up to support the kind of true music sharing/socializing system that the ZUNE Marketplace currently utilizes.
That's the beauty of having such a well-implemented subscription service as the ZUNE Pass, something that would severely impact Apple's current - 'you buy'... 'you don't like'... 'Too Bad, We've Already Got Our Money' - iTunes paradigm/scheme.
zune has a social network?
As I am holding my iPad in my hands at this moment, N O N E of the books I have purchased through the Kindle app can be read in iBooks, nor can A N Y of the books I have purchased through Apple's iBook Store be read via my iPad's Kindle app... The formats are Proprietary.
End of Story
Than you doing something wrong!! I have bought Amazon books and have the Kindle App for iPad and I read them just fine. Check yourself again! The only thing you said that is true is that Amazon's eBooks are proprietary. Apple's iBooks use open ePub. Now if the book publishers put some DRM shrink around that "open" ePub format, well that is not Apple's fault. Blame the content creators. But your Amazon eBooks are by no way "open"!! Look it up
zune has a social network?
... and a 'well implemented subscription service'.
Later guys! I'm off to download a few tracks for my new iPhone 4. Ping me!
... and a 'well implemented subscription service'.
Later guys! I'm off to download a few tracks for my new iPhone 4. Ping me!
Whats your name on ping?
I will not join Ping until it uses my nickname and not the name on my credit card. I read it also changes the name on your reviews from your nickname to the one on your credit card. Major fail, Steve! Do you want me to take my credit card off my iTunes account so I can use a faux name to protect my privacy?
you better had because i'm sure your the only person in the world on itunes with that name