Samsung's global Galaxy Tab sales lag behind Apple iPad at 600K

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  • Reply 181 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jca666us View Post


    You'll be waiting on that citation - chronster's blowing smoke...



    http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/24670/



    Apple today announced that it sold over 300,000 iPads in the US as of midnight Saturday, April 3. These sales included deliveries of pre-ordered iPads to customers, deliveries to channel partners and sales at Apple Retail Stores.



    channel partner - The name used to describe a company that partners with a manufacturer or producer to market and sell the manufacturer's products, services, or technologies- usually through a co-branding relationship. Channel partners may be distributors, vendors, retailers, consultants, systems integrators (SI), technology deployment consultancies, and value-added resellers (VARs) and other organizations.





    How's that foot taste?



    Deliveries to channel partners are what those retailers ordered to sell in their stores. So if a best buy in Iowa ordered 30 ipads for the release day, 30 ipads were added to the number regardless of whether or not someone bought all 30 at that best buy...
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  • Reply 182 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
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    Originally Posted by fila97 View Post


    iOS multitasking works just fine for me. I don't need two windows running if I only have 9.7 inch of real estate display. I wouldn't need it more so on a puny 7 inch display



    Yeah, it works fine for iOS apps. I'm not knocking it at all. Actually, Microsoft was praised for coming up with the method for WP7 that Apple is using in iOS now.



    I don't even know if you could find it, but I told people on these forums years ago that I envisioned Apple taking a snap shot of each app, storing it's state in a property bag, then bringing it back up the way the user left it, all as a means of explaining how multitasking might work in iOS. I called it lol
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  • Reply 183 of 337
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    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    1. - No it isn't.

    2. - No it doesn't.

    3 - then close it.



    Seriously, you'll lose the multitasking debate... Don't even bother starting it.







    Well I can say I'm NOT amazed that at least ONE idiot is posting senseless imbecilic statements like these



    read the article dimwit. and i wouldn't be surprised if you weren't one of the supposed 600k? loser.



    http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...ablets--715550
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  • Reply 184 of 337
    kevtkevt Posts: 195member
    Numbers are good for Samsung. They may be overblown, they will certainly contain pent-up demand. Time will tell.



    Apple sold over 4M iPads last quarter so is heading was heading into 1.5M a month, probably more given we're heading into the buying season.



    If I were an Android user, (I'm not, I'm a long time Mac/iPhone user) then I'd probably want an Android tablet rather than an iPad - consistency across the computing devices I use. So I'm not that surprised that they are selling in reasonable numbers - and the Galaxy Tab is the only choice.



    What this says to me is that it looks like many people are OK with a 7" form factor.



    I hope Apple take note, and that Steve Jobs' remarks were just marketing-speak.
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  • Reply 185 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jca666us View Post


    You obviously can't read - I did start the debate - for 90% of the users out there iOS multitasking paradigm works perfectly.



    To answer your statements:



    1. Yes it is.

    2. Yes it does.

    3. No need to - it's not multitasking - no wasted resources - lol!



    I'M the one who can't read? I just said "Seriously, you'll lose the multitasking debate... Don't even bother starting it." and you come in saying I can't read, that you DID start the debate



    Anyways, prove it. Prove multitasking that windows mobile has used for ages, and that Android now uses does exactly as you say.



    I'm not talking about finding a phone with 75% battery instead of 80% at the end of a day of multitasking, I'm talking about this extreme battery draining performance hit that Steve Jobs has convinced you of.



    See, the thing is, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I got into this when I had a TP2. Did testing for people on the forums and everything, still people believed Jobs over me. Now I have a fascinate, and I can assure you that running apps in the background has no impact on my performance or battery.



    Granted, there are exceptions: If you have an app using the radio, you WILL see a noticeable hit. This is present in iOS as well, however.
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  • Reply 186 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
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    Originally Posted by screamingfist View Post


    read the article dimwit. and i wouldn't be surprised if you weren't one of the supposed 600k? loser.



    http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...ablets--715550



    WOW! So 2.2 isn't optimized for tablets, and yet the Galaxy Tab performs THAT WELL?



    That Galaxy Tab sure is one hell of a device. Can't wait to see 3.0 on it.



    Thanks for opening my eyes as to how awesome this tablet is. I'm jealous of those 600,000 NORMAL INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NO MORE OR LESS INTELLIGENT THAN ANYONE ELSE HERE.



    Good God, dimwit.
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  • Reply 187 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
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    Originally Posted by jca666us View Post


    Apple did something smart with iOS multitasking



    Microsoft did, actually...



    Don't believe me? Look it up. They showed how they would handle multitasking in WP7 long before Apple did, and it works exactly the same.
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  • Reply 188 of 337
    How do you like your omelets now, Denver?
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  • Reply 189 of 337
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/24670/



    Apple today announced that it sold over 300,000 iPads in the US as of midnight Saturday, April 3. These sales included deliveries of pre-ordered iPads to customers, deliveries to channel partners and sales at Apple Retail Stores.



    channel partner - The name used to describe a company that partners with a manufacturer or producer to market and sell the manufacturer's products, services, or technologies- usually through a co-branding relationship. Channel partners may be distributors, vendors, retailers, consultants, systems integrators (SI), technology deployment consultancies, and value-added resellers (VARs) and other organizations.





    How's that foot taste?



    Deliveries to channel partners are what those retailers ordered to sell in their stores. So if a best buy in Iowa ordered 30 ipads for the release day, 30 ipads were added to the number regardless of whether or not someone bought all 30 at that best buy...



    Since we were looking the first month of sales:



    http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/...ast-as-iphone/



    No mention of channel partners



    BTW, I can't taste my foot; it's still up your butt.
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  • Reply 190 of 337
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    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    I'M the one who can't read? I just said "Seriously, you'll lose the multitasking debate... Don't even bother starting it." and you come in saying I can't read, that you DID start the debate



    Anyways, prove it. Prove multitasking that windows mobile has used for ages, and that Android now uses does exactly as you say.



    I'm not talking about finding a phone with 75% battery instead of 80% at the end of a day of multitasking, I'm talking about this extreme battery draining performance hit that Steve Jobs has convinced you of.



    See, the thing is, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I got into this when I had a TP2. Did testing for people on the forums and everything, still people believed Jobs over me. Now I have a fascinate, and I can assure you that running apps in the background has no impact on my performance or battery.



    Granted, there are exceptions: If you have an app using the radio, you WILL see a noticeable hit. This is present in iOS as well, however.





    yes, steve jobs hates multitasking. that is why he went with a unix system for os x....

    wake up you jarhead.
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  • Reply 191 of 337
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    Microsoft did, actually...



    Don't believe me? Look it up. They showed how they would handle multitasking in WP7 long before Apple did, and it works exactly the same.





    Talk about grasping at straws - long before?? 6 months?



    Wp7 is three years late and a buggy mess.
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  • Reply 192 of 337
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    Given that the vast majority of these devices have large enough batteries to power them in excess of 7 to 8 hours (in the galaxy Tab's case based on my usage), and many of us charge them nightly, these are no longer legitimate concerns.



    Battery life ISN'T a legitimate concern?! My suspicions are verified. You have no clue. Are you friends with "Blackintosh" by any chance? Same person possibly? No life? You love your Android device so much yet you hang out on Apple forums? Searching for a Russian bride in between your posts? Hmmmm....
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  • Reply 193 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jca666us View Post


    Since we were looking the first month of sales:



    http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/...ast-as-iphone/



    No mention of channel partners



    BTW, I can't taste my foot; it's still up your butt.



    How does that disprove anything?
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  • Reply 194 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jca666us View Post


    Talk about grasping at straws - long before?? 6 months?



    Wp7 is three years late and a buggy mess.



    Yes, 6 months prior to Apple. When Steve Jobs was telling everyone that multitasking would never come to iOS. When he was convincing you of all the nonsense you're parroting here.



    Suddenly Apple did it BETTER than everyone else lol (except for Microsoft apparently.)
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  • Reply 195 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by screamingfist View Post


    yes, steve jobs hates multitasking. that is why he went with a unix system for os x....

    wake up you jarhead.



    jarhead? You do realize that's not a general insult you throw around, but rather a nickname given to those who served in the marines?



    ANYWAYS, what is your point here? Did I say something you didn't like? Honestly? Get over it.
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  • Reply 196 of 337
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    Yeah, it works fine for iOS apps. I'm not knocking it at all. Actually, Microsoft was praised for coming up with the method for WP7 that Apple is using in iOS now.



    I don't even know if you could find it, but I told people on these forums years ago that I envisioned Apple taking a snap shot of each app, storing it's state in a property bag, then bringing it back up the way the user left it, all as a means of explaining how multitasking might work in iOS. I called it lol



    Call it whatever you want. I'll stick with multitasking.
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  • Reply 197 of 337
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    I'M the one who can't read? I just said "Seriously, you'll lose the multitasking debate... Don't even bother starting it." and you come in saying I can't read, that you DID start the debate



    Anyways, prove it. Prove multitasking that windows mobile has used for ages, and that Android now uses does exactly as you say.



    I'm not talking about finding a phone with 75% battery instead of 80% at the end of a day of multitasking, I'm talking about this extreme battery draining performance hit that Steve Jobs has convinced you of.



    See, the thing is, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I got into this when I had a TP2. Did testing for people on the forums and everything, still people believed Jobs over me. Now I have a fascinate, and I can assure you that running apps in the background has no impact on my performance or battery.



    Granted, there are exceptions: If you have an app using the radio, you WILL see a noticeable hit. This is present in iOS as well, however.



    A simple answer that you can understand:



    If windows mobiles multitasking was so great, why did Microsoft drop it with wp7 and adopt a framework similar to iOS? Because wp7 and androids multitasking paradigm works great on a desktop with (virtually) unlimited resources.



    On a mobile device - with limited resources - not that good. iOS solution is demonstrably better.
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  • Reply 198 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
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    Originally Posted by fila97 View Post


    Call it whatever you want. I'll stick with multitasking.



    I'm sticking with multitasking too



    In fact, back when this was a big topic and everyone was busy convincing themselves why multitasking wasn't needed on the iphone or ipod touch, I was explaining why it would be a good thing, and how it could be done, and why people should be irritated with Apple rather than praising them for not even making an effort to bring it in.



    Anyways, they did it, it works well, and people enjoy it. Awesome!
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  • Reply 199 of 337
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jca666us View Post


    A simple answer that you can understand:



    If windows mobiles multitasking was so great, why did Microsoft drop it with wp7 and adopt a framework similar to iOS? Because wp7 and androids multitasking paradigm works great on a desktop with (virtually) unlimited resources.



    On a mobile device - with limited resources - not that good. iOS solution is demonstrably better.



    They DIDN'T adopt anything similar to iOS. Stop making stuff up. They came up with a NEW method that used less memory, and avoided the whole argument you're trying to bring up now. Suspiciously, Apple later announced a system very similar.



    And you're right, on a mobile device with limited resources, Microsoft's solution was better. On a device with sufficient RAM, however, it's not as much of an issue. Most people won't run every app they own in the background.



    BTW, I'm finding it so hilarious that you keep attacking my reading comprehension skills when I've shown over and over why my position isn't illogical or wrong. What's with the rudeness?



    BTW again, since we're on the topic of ipads, I thought this was cool and you might too: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/22/d...more-enticing/
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  • Reply 200 of 337
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    Yes, 6 months prior to Apple. When Steve Jobs was telling everyone that multitasking would never come to iOS. When he was convincing you of all the nonsense you're parroting here.



    Suddenly Apple did it BETTER than everyone else lol (except for Microsoft apparently.)



    No one convinced me multitasking wasn't necessary - apple does it better than everyone - including Microsoft - where better is defined as:



    Minimizing excessive use of a mobile device's limited resources.
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