I can't recall exactly but I think the aTV needs to be set up with a DHCP wireless access point and an iTunes account first. When you move it I'm not sure you can reestablish functionality in an ad hoc environment with only a companion iPad.
If that's the case then I'll add fixing that to my list of demands above. Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
If that's the case then I'll add fixing that to my list of demands above. Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
I'm not at home right now but you could unplug your wireless router and then restart your aTV to test it.
I can't recall exactly but I think the aTV needs to be set up with a DHCP wireless access point and an iTunes account first. When you move it I'm not sure you can reestablish functionality in an ad hoc environment with only a companion iPad.
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If that's the case then I'll add fixing that to my list of demands above. Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
Ahh... I see!
How can I test this?
Turn all the computers and routers off, then power off/on the AppleTV & iPad?
Wouldn't aTV remember its last settings? I think you'd need to physically take the thing to a different wireless environment, fire it up cold and see what happens.
Wouldn't aTV remember its last settings? I think you'd need to physically take the thing to a different wireless environment, fire it up cold and see what happens.
I think it would be the same as if it found no wireless. That is the scenario you want to test first then in the presence of a foreign network which you would want it to be able to ignore or join gracefully.
I don?t think many people realize just how small this thing became with the update.
Yeah, that's what got me going. You make something that small (iPod size) you seem to be suggesting something about how you might put it to use. It becomes an accessory, or a dongle, instead of a "set-top box."
Assuming Apple can (or wants to) work out the particulars, I can see just keeping one on my person and knowing that I can show stuff most anywhere.
I think it would be the same as if it found no wireless. That is the scenario you want to test first then in the presence of a foreign network which you would want it to be able to ignore or join gracefully.
It's the "join gracefully" part I'm particularly interested in, since that would make popping an aTV onto whatever screen was available as easy as plugging in a monitor cable. Better, because once you're set you're not tethered.
Honestly, I think Apple should just start including these with Macs, like a kind of super cable.
Not to mention that all your work would have to be vetted by a legal department to try to cover possible patent infringements and then executive level decisions would be made as far as licensing of IP or how far the company should go in pushing the boundaries of existing IP before your work sees the light of day.
Having to go back to the drawing board would have to be disheartening.
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Exactly. I'd also add that innovating must be a hell of a lot more exciting than copying. I suspect the iPad team are very motivated and happy. These feelings show in their work. Spending all day trying to get as close as possible to another product must be pretty miserable and that shows too.
I just got my main computer back up -- I never shut all this stuff off.
I'm going to poke around and see what I can find about ad hoc networks on the iP4, iPad and AppleTV.
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I just got home and I plan to check it out as well. We know that aTV can run on ethernet so what affect that has on Airplay I'm not sure, but I will report back if I find anything.
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I can't recall exactly but I think the aTV needs to be set up with a DHCP wireless access point and an iTunes account first. When you move it I'm not sure you can reestablish functionality in an ad hoc environment with only a companion iPad.
If that's the case then I'll add fixing that to my list of demands above. Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
So that would be an upgrade from his original tablets?
If that's the case then I'll add fixing that to my list of demands above. Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
I'm not at home right now but you could unplug your wireless router and then restart your aTV to test it.
I can't recall exactly but I think the aTV needs to be set up with a DHCP wireless access point and an iTunes account first. When you move it I'm not sure you can reestablish functionality in an ad hoc environment with only a companion iPad.
If that's the case then I'll add fixing that to my list of demands above. Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
Ahh... I see!
How can I test this?
Turn all the computers and routers off, then power off/on the AppleTV & iPad?
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Ahh... I see!
How can I test this?
Turn all the computers and routers off, then power off/on the AppleTV & iPad?
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Sounds like the way to test it. You'll make my day if it works. I'll also have to run not walk to the Apple Store to buy an AppleTV.
I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
I don’t think many people realize just how small this thing became with the update.
Wouldn't aTV remember its last settings? I think you'd need to physically take the thing to a different wireless environment, fire it up cold and see what happens.
I think it would be the same as if it found no wireless. That is the scenario you want to test first then in the presence of a foreign network which you would want it to be able to ignore or join gracefully.
I don?t think many people realize just how small this thing became with the update.
Yeah, that's what got me going. You make something that small (iPod size) you seem to be suggesting something about how you might put it to use. It becomes an accessory, or a dongle, instead of a "set-top box."
Assuming Apple can (or wants to) work out the particulars, I can see just keeping one on my person and knowing that I can show stuff most anywhere.
I think it would be the same as if it found no wireless. That is the scenario you want to test first then in the presence of a foreign network which you would want it to be able to ignore or join gracefully.
It's the "join gracefully" part I'm particularly interested in, since that would make popping an aTV onto whatever screen was available as easy as plugging in a monitor cable. Better, because once you're set you're not tethered.
Honestly, I think Apple should just start including these with Macs, like a kind of super cable.
This is getting exciting. Dick what's the hold up? I may have to unexpectedly go home if I don't get the answer soon.
I had lots of computers to turn off.
Both ATV and iPad require a WiFi Network to be available -- mine is an AirPort Extreme.
Don't know if you can ad hoc connect these.
More in a few minutes.
... Take rest of day off -- tell'em I said it was OK.
tell'em I said it was OK.
I talk to myself all the time anyway.
I talk to myself all the time anyway.
It's okay to talk to yourself, so long as you don't listen.
Having to go back to the drawing board would have to be disheartening.
Exactly. I'd also add that innovating must be a hell of a lot more exciting than copying. I suspect the iPad team are very motivated and happy. These feelings show in their work. Spending all day trying to get as close as possible to another product must be pretty miserable and that shows too.
It's okay to talk to yourself, so long as you don't listen.
Listening's OK -- It's bad when you begin telling yourself jokes...
...Then stop yourself, because you've heard that one before!
I just got my main computer back up -- I never shut all this stuff off.
I'm going to poke around and see what I can find about ad hoc networks on the iP4, iPad and AppleTV.
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I just got my main computer back up -- I never shut all this stuff off.
I'm going to poke around and see what I can find about ad hoc networks on the iP4, iPad and AppleTV.
.
I just got home and I plan to check it out as well. We know that aTV can run on ethernet so what affect that has on Airplay I'm not sure, but I will report back if I find anything.
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Listening's OK -- It's bad when you begin telling yourself jokes...
...Then stop yourself, because you've heard that one before!
Badda-boomp!