Could not get to work without a wireless connection, mainly because the iPad will not show the Airplay icon without being connected to a wifi network. There is apparently no way without a wifi router. So I guess you need to add that to your kit to be sure. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet though, it just has to be present. You could use a droid hotspot But if the location you are presenting in has a wifi it is trivial to set up on aTV. It finds available networks very easily assuming you have the password.
I just got home and I plan to check it out as well. We know that aTV can run on ethernet so what affect that has on Airplay I'm not sure, but I will report back if I find anything.
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Same here... I will monitor this thread all weekend!
Could not get to work without a wireless connection, mainly because the iPad will not show the Airplay icon without being connected to a wifi network. There is apparently no way without a wifi router. So I guess you need to add that to your kit to be sure. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet though, it just has to be present. You could use a droid hotspot But if the location you are presenting in has a wifi it is trivial to set up on aTV. It finds available networks very easily assuming you have the password.
I have an AirPort Express! Right now it is configured to join the AirPort Extreme network.
Later tonight, I'll see if this can be the missing link. If so, thats another $100 to the kit
Yup, that would be the next thing to try. I wonder, does iPad Keynote work through AirPlay?
I think I read somewhere that it didn't-- part of the kind of surprising limitations.
My hope is that the (rumored but surprisingly hasty) Dec. update is partly because Apple really wanted to get 4.2 out the door so they left some things hanging.
Could not get to work without a wireless connection, mainly because the iPad will not show the Airplay icon without being connected to a wifi network. There is apparently no way without a wifi router. So I guess you need to add that to your kit to be sure. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet though, it just has to be present. You could use a droid hotspot But if the location you are presenting in has a wifi it is trivial to set up on aTV. It finds available networks very easily assuming you have the password.
Right, I pretty much assumed that. But in most of the scenarios I had in mind a local WiFi network is a given. In fact, I can't think of many places with a large display where WiFi wouldn't be present-- maybe the odd living room?
Could not get to work without a wireless connection, mainly because the iPad will not show the Airplay icon without being connected to a wifi network. There is apparently no way without a wifi router. So I guess you need to add that to your kit to be sure. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet though, it just has to be present. You could use a droid hotspot But if the location you are presenting in has a wifi it is trivial to set up on aTV. It finds available networks very easily assuming you have the password.
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Right, I pretty much assumed that. But in most of the scenarios I had in mind a local WiFi network is a given. In fact, I can't think of many places with a large display where WiFi wouldn't be present-- maybe the odd living room?
You can easily turn any Mac into a WiFi hotspot so you can connect the iPad to the AppleTV. Just turn on Internet Sharing in System Preferences » Sharing.
You can easily turn any Mac into a WiFi hotspot so you can connect the iPad to the AppleTV. Just turn on Internet Sharing in System Preferences » Sharing.
Sure but we are talking weight and iPad. If you have to bring a mac, you might as well use that for presentation. That would also let you share the keynote from iTunes so it might be the workaround for now
Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
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I don?t think many people realize just how small this thing became with the update.
Emphasis mine.
You two should be writing ad copy -- absolutely brilliant characterizations!
I think I read somewhere that it didn't-- part of the kind of surprising limitations.
My hope is that the (rumored but surprisingly hasty) Dec. update is partly because Apple really wanted to get 4.2 out the door so they left some things hanging.
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Doesn't look like it. No airplay icon to be found and yes my keynote is the latest version as is my iOS.
It sure looks like we're SOL on that front, for now. Seems someone e-mailed His Steveness about that very issue, and got back one of those cryptic replies suggesting that it was a "coming soon" feature.
So let me get this straight: AI posts an article on the success of the Galaxy Tab in order to troll Apple fans into coming in for a massive circle jerk, a GT owner proclaims how much he likes his instead of joining in with the Apple fanboy's illogical bashing of the device, now you create an alt to mock the guy...
Actually, I'm honestly not surprised I'm seeing this from someone on these forums.
When it comes to Android, you fanboys call people morons for buying any device that runs an OS not designed for morons...
Please tell me that you do, indeed, have a sense of humor and that you just choose not to use it on these boards. ......
According to this article the tablets won't ship until Feb/April 2011, and they'll only be matching the specs of the CURRENT iPad? They'll be competing against the iPad2 by then.
What's the point of pre-announcing a product 5 months early that's barely comparable to what's already out there for sale today?
they probably will be over the new ipad as well.
from them using AMD i can only grasp as one thing: APU!!
which would make it much stronger than any tablet in terms of video power (if what AMD says is true)
still... you would think a company would either brag about something being released during the Christmas season, right before... and bragging about what will come later AFTER the Christmas season...
People who clamor for ?1080p? without qualifying it any further are stuck on a marketing term without understanding what 1080p is or how other specs need to be considered.
It?s like saying you want a ?4G? phone instead of a ?3G? phone without explaining further.
How do you think Apple comes up with their own innovation?
Staying ahead of the curve doesn't just involve some imaginary line they're always trying to catch up to. They are competing with these companies! This competition is what spurs their innovation, and without these other companies, Apple wouldn't strive for such greatness.
Yes, thank God we have Apple, but thank God it's not JUST Apple as well...
@chronster - you seem to be constantly trolling this site - you are truly clueless when it comes to apple as you push your agenda. The beauty of Apple's strategy is that they DON'T look at the competition. Instead they strive for true innovation and total customer satisfaction, all while developing an unbeatable and unmatchable comprehensive ecosystem - to look at markets like no one ever has before. If they focused on competitors, other than occasionally viewing them in the rearview mirror, their products would be just like everyone else's. Think wintel commodity crap. All these companies have learned to do is to copy each other - they think innovation is simply adding a faster processor than the other guy. Pathetic actually.
@chronster - you seem to be constantly trolling this site - you are truly clueless when it comes to apple as you push your agenda. The beauty of Apple's strategy is that they DON'T look at the competition. Instead they strive for true innovation and total customer satisfaction, all while developing an unbeatable and unmatchable comprehensive ecosystem - to look at markets like no one ever has before. If they focused on competitors, other than occasionally viewing them in the rearview mirror, their products would be just like everyone else's. Think wintel commodity crap. All these companies have learned to do is to copy each other - they think innovation is simply adding a faster processor than the other guy. Pathetic actually.
This is a pretty good observation. If there is an established market, Apple asks, "what are existing companies in the market NOT doing? What hasn't been done or seen in the market? How can we do it differently? better?" I have to agree that they are aware of competition, but they aren't just designing me-too products. With AppleTV, they seem to be in "experiment mode", trying different things to see what will work and what will not. I think they're searching for the winning formula there. In other markets (MP3 players, phones, tablets) they seem to have found a way to capitalize on their strengths. It's ironic that many years ago, Microsoft's executives were telling Apple that they should abandon their vertical hardware+OS strategy and follow Microsoft's example and just license their OS to (Mac) clone makers. But here we are 15 years later and Apple's highly vertical hardware+OS strategy has paid-off handsomely. It's a strength and not a weakness, and now Microsoft is copying that strategy (Zune, Xbox are highly vertical).
@chronster - you seem to be constantly trolling this site - you are truly clueless when it comes to apple as you push your agenda. The beauty of Apple's strategy is that they DON'T look at the competition. Instead they strive for true innovation and total customer satisfaction, all while developing an unbeatable and unmatchable comprehensive ecosystem - to look at markets like no one ever has before. If they focused on competitors, other than occasionally viewing them in the rearview mirror, their products would be just like everyone else's. Think wintel commodity crap. All these companies have learned to do is to copy each other - they think innovation is simply adding a faster processor than the other guy. Pathetic actually.
I have no agenda, I just post comments on an Apple tech site every once in a while. You only call me a troll because my opinion stands out here and there, but most of the time don't say anything that goes against the grain around here.
It's not surprising to read your comment at a site like this, it's expected being that this is a site devoted to Apple, and in turn attracts die hard fans like yourself. It's completely naive, however, and ironic when you tell me I'm clueless.
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I just got home and I plan to check it out as well. We know that aTV can run on ethernet so what affect that has on Airplay I'm not sure, but I will report back if I find anything.
m
Same here... I will monitor this thread all weekend!
As opposed to the iPad and iPad Keyboard Dock?
Guess the iPad is really a laptop...
No. That makes it a... desktop. :-)
Could not get to work without a wireless connection, mainly because the iPad will not show the Airplay icon without being connected to a wifi network. There is apparently no way without a wifi router. So I guess you need to add that to your kit to be sure. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet though, it just has to be present. You could use a droid hotspot
I have an AirPort Express! Right now it is configured to join the AirPort Extreme network.
Later tonight, I'll see if this can be the missing link. If so, thats another $100 to the kit
http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/specs.html
Edit: The Express is an older model B/G no N -- so it may not tell us anything.
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I have an AirPort Express! Right now it is configured to join the AirPort Extreme network.
Later tonight, I'll see if this can be the missing link. If so, thats another $100 to the kit
http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/specs.html
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Yup, that would be the next thing to try. I wonder, does iPad Keynote work through AirPlay?
Yup, that would be the next thing to try. I wonder, does iPad Keynote work through AirPlay?
I think I read somewhere that it didn't-- part of the kind of surprising limitations.
My hope is that the (rumored but surprisingly hasty) Dec. update is partly because Apple really wanted to get 4.2 out the door so they left some things hanging.
Could not get to work without a wireless connection, mainly because the iPad will not show the Airplay icon without being connected to a wifi network. There is apparently no way without a wifi router. So I guess you need to add that to your kit to be sure. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet though, it just has to be present. You could use a droid hotspot
Right, I pretty much assumed that. But in most of the scenarios I had in mind a local WiFi network is a given. In fact, I can't think of many places with a large display where WiFi wouldn't be present-- maybe the odd living room?
Could not get to work without a wireless connection, mainly because the iPad will not show the Airplay icon without being connected to a wifi network. There is apparently no way without a wifi router. So I guess you need to add that to your kit to be sure. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet though, it just has to be present. You could use a droid hotspot
Right, I pretty much assumed that. But in most of the scenarios I had in mind a local WiFi network is a given. In fact, I can't think of many places with a large display where WiFi wouldn't be present-- maybe the odd living room?
You can easily turn any Mac into a WiFi hotspot so you can connect the iPad to the AppleTV. Just turn on Internet Sharing in System Preferences » Sharing.
Yup, that would be the next thing to try. I wonder, does iPad Keynote work through AirPlay?
Doesn't look like it. No airplay icon to be found and yes my keynote is the latest version as is my iOS.
You can easily turn any Mac into a WiFi hotspot so you can connect the iPad to the AppleTV. Just turn on Internet Sharing in System Preferences » Sharing.
Sure but we are talking weight and iPad. If you have to bring a mac, you might as well use that for presentation. That would also let you share the keynote from iTunes so it might be the workaround for now
Apple would be missing a huge opportunity if they only think of Apple TV as being a stay in one place living room device. I mean, you can literally slip the thing into your pocket, it takes up less room than an actual VGA cable.
I don?t think many people realize just how small this thing became with the update.
Emphasis mine.
You two should be writing ad copy -- absolutely brilliant characterizations!
.
I think I read somewhere that it didn't-- part of the kind of surprising limitations.
My hope is that the (rumored but surprisingly hasty) Dec. update is partly because Apple really wanted to get 4.2 out the door so they left some things hanging.
Doesn't look like it. No airplay icon to be found and yes my keynote is the latest version as is my iOS.
It sure looks like we're SOL on that front, for now. Seems someone e-mailed His Steveness about that very issue, and got back one of those cryptic replies suggesting that it was a "coming soon" feature.
You should stick to the engadget forums, rather than troll the Appleinsider ones.
Take a closer look at who you're replying to .......
So let me get this straight: AI posts an article on the success of the Galaxy Tab in order to troll Apple fans into coming in for a massive circle jerk, a GT owner proclaims how much he likes his instead of joining in with the Apple fanboy's illogical bashing of the device, now you create an alt to mock the guy...
Actually, I'm honestly not surprised I'm seeing this from someone on these forums.
When it comes to Android, you fanboys call people morons for buying any device that runs an OS not designed for morons...
Please tell me that you do, indeed, have a sense of humor and that you just choose not to use it on these boards. ......
According to this article the tablets won't ship until Feb/April 2011, and they'll only be matching the specs of the CURRENT iPad? They'll be competing against the iPad2 by then.
What's the point of pre-announcing a product 5 months early that's barely comparable to what's already out there for sale today?
they probably will be over the new ipad as well.
from them using AMD i can only grasp as one thing: APU!!
which would make it much stronger than any tablet in terms of video power (if what AMD says is true)
still... you would think a company would either brag about something being released during the Christmas season, right before... and bragging about what will come later AFTER the Christmas season...
So, your kit includes:
-- an iPad $500
-- an AppleTV $100 (power cord included)
-- an HDMI cable $30
So for $630, and a total weight of 2.2 lbs, you have everything you need to give an HD preso!
Not only the conference room -- the class room, lecture hall, training room, and the team-party room at the local pizza parlor.
I suspect that we'll see an AirPlay upgrade to iPad (and Mac) KeyNote real soon!
Add an iPhone 4 and a Camera Connection Kit and you can capture ad hoc HD images to include in the preso.
but what if you want 1080p...
would be nice though, i never though about how cheap it would be
but what if you want 1080p?
People who clamor for ?1080p? without qualifying it any further are stuck on a marketing term without understanding what 1080p is or how other specs need to be considered.
It?s like saying you want a ?4G? phone instead of a ?3G? phone without explaining further.
How do you think Apple comes up with their own innovation?
Staying ahead of the curve doesn't just involve some imaginary line they're always trying to catch up to. They are competing with these companies! This competition is what spurs their innovation, and without these other companies, Apple wouldn't strive for such greatness.
Yes, thank God we have Apple, but thank God it's not JUST Apple as well...
@chronster - you seem to be constantly trolling this site - you are truly clueless when it comes to apple as you push your agenda. The beauty of Apple's strategy is that they DON'T look at the competition. Instead they strive for true innovation and total customer satisfaction, all while developing an unbeatable and unmatchable comprehensive ecosystem - to look at markets like no one ever has before. If they focused on competitors, other than occasionally viewing them in the rearview mirror, their products would be just like everyone else's. Think wintel commodity crap. All these companies have learned to do is to copy each other - they think innovation is simply adding a faster processor than the other guy. Pathetic actually.
@chronster - you seem to be constantly trolling this site - you are truly clueless when it comes to apple as you push your agenda. The beauty of Apple's strategy is that they DON'T look at the competition. Instead they strive for true innovation and total customer satisfaction, all while developing an unbeatable and unmatchable comprehensive ecosystem - to look at markets like no one ever has before. If they focused on competitors, other than occasionally viewing them in the rearview mirror, their products would be just like everyone else's. Think wintel commodity crap. All these companies have learned to do is to copy each other - they think innovation is simply adding a faster processor than the other guy. Pathetic actually.
This is a pretty good observation. If there is an established market, Apple asks, "what are existing companies in the market NOT doing? What hasn't been done or seen in the market? How can we do it differently? better?" I have to agree that they are aware of competition, but they aren't just designing me-too products. With AppleTV, they seem to be in "experiment mode", trying different things to see what will work and what will not. I think they're searching for the winning formula there. In other markets (MP3 players, phones, tablets) they seem to have found a way to capitalize on their strengths. It's ironic that many years ago, Microsoft's executives were telling Apple that they should abandon their vertical hardware+OS strategy and follow Microsoft's example and just license their OS to (Mac) clone makers. But here we are 15 years later and Apple's highly vertical hardware+OS strategy has paid-off handsomely. It's a strength and not a weakness, and now Microsoft is copying that strategy (Zune, Xbox are highly vertical).
@chronster - you seem to be constantly trolling this site - you are truly clueless when it comes to apple as you push your agenda. The beauty of Apple's strategy is that they DON'T look at the competition. Instead they strive for true innovation and total customer satisfaction, all while developing an unbeatable and unmatchable comprehensive ecosystem - to look at markets like no one ever has before. If they focused on competitors, other than occasionally viewing them in the rearview mirror, their products would be just like everyone else's. Think wintel commodity crap. All these companies have learned to do is to copy each other - they think innovation is simply adding a faster processor than the other guy. Pathetic actually.
I have no agenda, I just post comments on an Apple tech site every once in a while. You only call me a troll because my opinion stands out here and there, but most of the time don't say anything that goes against the grain around here.
It's not surprising to read your comment at a site like this, it's expected being that this is a site devoted to Apple, and in turn attracts die hard fans like yourself. It's completely naive, however, and ironic when you tell me I'm clueless.