Correct. This is not a state dinner. This is an informal dinner in a private residence.
On top of that, this is California. Almost everyone is wearing their normal daily attire; that's how Silicon Valley dresses. The only person who dressed up was Zuckerberg.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Correct. This is not a state dinner. This is an informal dinner in a private residence.
On top of that, this is California. Almost everyone is wearing their normal daily attire; that's how Silicon Valley dresses. The only person who dressed up was Zuckerberg.
Is that just a small storm cellar? Or is it something far more cool than that?...
I don't see what you're looking at, but if we are talking a basement or underground room type area, in a house of that era, built in that style and in that location, ...
Occam's razor would suggest a wine cellar more than a dungeon/fall-out shelter or any other more exciting possibility.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Everyone in the room knows that Zuckerberg doesn't normally dress like that.
He would have been more representative of the Facebook Generation if he wore his normal clothes. Again, this was an informal dinner at a private residence, not a state dinner at the White House.
These meetings indicate just how clueless the government's business policies are and how they unfairly favor big business.
From Businessweek:
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Businesses with fewer than 500 workers make up 99.7 percent of all employer firms in the U.S., encompass more than half of all private-sector employees, and have generated 65 percent of net new jobs over the past 17 years, according to the Small Business Administration.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Zuckerberg and Doerr are patients of mine, and I know Schmidt from when he was taking pilot training. Zuckerberg was a bit introverted, and we did not discuss anything to do with Facebook - couldn't judge his personality very deeply. Doerr, on the other hand, was intelligent, social, and engaging, and figured out some of the technicalities of my profession (Optometry) while I was doing the testing - blew me away. At the end of the exam, I opined that he had the best and most fun job in the world, and he readily agreed. Didn't get to know Schmidt at all, other than to ask him (when I first met him years ago) why he was jumping from Novell to a little-known-startup in Mountain View that was known for search, along with Inktomi, Yahoo, and others. He said he had a few other things in mind, other than search. No sh*t
I'll bet Zuck and Obama had very few words together, and that Jobs probably dominated that interesting seating arrangement. Obaba probably wanted to make Zuck feel less uncomfortable by all the older folks around him, which is par for the course when seating at these types of functions - place the person who is most out of place next to the honored guest or the host.
My father died of pancreatic cancer, we all went to celebrate his birthday at a restaurant. At the time he was able to walk around and whatnot. 6 weeks later he was dead.
Except that there are two different kinds of pancreatic cancer that are entirely different from each other in severity and consequence as well as survivability.
Steve Jobs has the very rare one with the much longer survival rate. Odds are (just speaking statistics here) that your father had the much more common one.
I'm not saying he won't drop dead tomorrow, but he could just as easily live for a decade or two. We just don't know, and it's none of our business anyway.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Or maybe, despite his youth and "all his bravado," he's thoughtful enough to present himself respectfully to the President of the United States.
Everyone in the room knows that Zuckerberg doesn't normally dress like that.
He would have been more representative of the Facebook Generation if he wore his normal clothes. Again, this was an informal dinner at a private residence, not a state dinner at the White House.
Personally, I think Zuckerberg failed the test.
Agreed. He should have worn a hoodie with a bow tie and ruffled shirt silkscreened on front, you know like the classic tuxedo t-shirt. Then he could have been true to his style while tipping his hat to the guest list.
Are you implying that Silicon Valley is racist? What would be the basis for that statement? (I can understand, to some extent, if someone wanted to make the case in relation to gender and tech, but race!?).
In a group of ten people there should have been 1.2 black persons and five women to be truly reflective of the American society. If somebody was underrepresented it sure was the women.
Steve should've worn a suit, tie not mandatory of course. I find it rather inappropriate he dresses like that with the President.
I'm shocked that you even said this and I'm curious as to why someone with such retrograde, old-fashioned thinking is interested in technology at all. Maybe you should be knitting sweaters or something instead?
I'm sorry about your father, but that's not relevant. Six weeks from now any one of us could be killed in a car accident. He's here now and he's clearly able to function. We need to be thankful for every minute we have him.
if he makes it 2 more months i think he will make it for a few more years. but i have to admit i fear the next few weeks and what we might find out.
In a group of ten people there should have been 1.2 black persons and five women to be truly reflective of the American society. If somebody was underrepresented it sure was the women.
Wasn't one of the two Meg Whitman as well?
I don't think a crazy woman who spends maybe 1-2% of her time at work really counts for much in the female column either.
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Correct. This is not a state dinner. This is an informal dinner in a private residence.
On top of that, this is California. Almost everyone is wearing their normal daily attire; that's how Silicon Valley dresses. The only person who dressed up was Zuckerberg.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Correct. This is not a state dinner. This is an informal dinner in a private residence.
On top of that, this is California. Almost everyone is wearing their normal daily attire; that's how Silicon Valley dresses. The only person who dressed up was Zuckerberg.
Hard to tell, looks like Steve shaved.
Is that just a small storm cellar? Or is it something far more cool than that?...
I don't see what you're looking at, but if we are talking a basement or underground room type area, in a house of that era, built in that style and in that location, ...
Occam's razor would suggest a wine cellar more than a dungeon/fall-out shelter or any other more exciting possibility.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Everyone in the room knows that Zuckerberg doesn't normally dress like that.
He would have been more representative of the Facebook Generation if he wore his normal clothes. Again, this was an informal dinner at a private residence, not a state dinner at the White House.
Personally, I think Zuckerberg failed the test.
Steve should've worn a suit, tie not mandatory of course. I find it rather inappropriate he dresses like that with the President.
For me a suit without a tie is casual. If it's casual then I don't find his attire at all inappropriate.
From Businessweek:
Businesses with fewer than 500 workers make up 99.7 percent of all employer firms in the U.S., encompass more than half of all private-sector employees, and have generated 65 percent of net new jobs over the past 17 years, according to the Small Business Administration.
Source: http://www.businessweek.com/debatero..._business.html
Wow, that is a great point!
This might explain it.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Zuckerberg and Doerr are patients of mine, and I know Schmidt from when he was taking pilot training. Zuckerberg was a bit introverted, and we did not discuss anything to do with Facebook - couldn't judge his personality very deeply. Doerr, on the other hand, was intelligent, social, and engaging, and figured out some of the technicalities of my profession (Optometry) while I was doing the testing - blew me away. At the end of the exam, I opined that he had the best and most fun job in the world, and he readily agreed. Didn't get to know Schmidt at all, other than to ask him (when I first met him years ago) why he was jumping from Novell to a little-known-startup in Mountain View that was known for search, along with Inktomi, Yahoo, and others. He said he had a few other things in mind, other than search. No sh*t
I'll bet Zuck and Obama had very few words together, and that Jobs probably dominated that interesting seating arrangement. Obaba probably wanted to make Zuck feel less uncomfortable by all the older folks around him, which is par for the course when seating at these types of functions - place the person who is most out of place next to the honored guest or the host.
Where's Ballmer?
Technically, he is not from Silicon Valley, whereas everybody else in that group seems to be from there.
If all the pictures taken are with Steve hidden it is not going to help speculation sad to say.
Exactly, who the hell cares about speculation = only the dumbest people that can't think for themselves!
My father died of pancreatic cancer, we all went to celebrate his birthday at a restaurant. At the time he was able to walk around and whatnot. 6 weeks later he was dead.
Except that there are two different kinds of pancreatic cancer that are entirely different from each other in severity and consequence as well as survivability.
Steve Jobs has the very rare one with the much longer survival rate. Odds are (just speaking statistics here) that your father had the much more common one.
I'm not saying he won't drop dead tomorrow, but he could just as easily live for a decade or two. We just don't know, and it's none of our business anyway.
Yeah interesting observation about Zuckerberg. Probably a reflection of his youth in that for all his bravado he really isn't confident enough (yet) in his identity to say "who cares who else is there, this is my style." That being said I'm glad he did lose the hoodie and maybe he actually has better judgement than he gets credit for. Or not.
Or maybe, despite his youth and "all his bravado," he's thoughtful enough to present himself respectfully to the President of the United States.
Everyone in the room knows that Zuckerberg doesn't normally dress like that.
He would have been more representative of the Facebook Generation if he wore his normal clothes. Again, this was an informal dinner at a private residence, not a state dinner at the White House.
Personally, I think Zuckerberg failed the test.
Agreed. He should have worn a hoodie with a bow tie and ruffled shirt silkscreened on front, you know like the classic tuxedo t-shirt. Then he could have been true to his style while tipping his hat to the guest list.
Are you implying that Silicon Valley is racist? What would be the basis for that statement? (I can understand, to some extent, if someone wanted to make the case in relation to gender and tech, but race!?).
In a group of ten people there should have been 1.2 black persons and five women to be truly reflective of the American society. If somebody was underrepresented it sure was the women.
Steve should've worn a suit, tie not mandatory of course. I find it rather inappropriate he dresses like that with the President.
I'm shocked that you even said this and I'm curious as to why someone with such retrograde, old-fashioned thinking is interested in technology at all. Maybe you should be knitting sweaters or something instead?
I'm sorry about your father, but that's not relevant. Six weeks from now any one of us could be killed in a car accident. He's here now and he's clearly able to function. We need to be thankful for every minute we have him.
if he makes it 2 more months i think he will make it for a few more years. but i have to admit i fear the next few weeks and what we might find out.
In a group of ten people there should have been 1.2 black persons and five women to be truly reflective of the American society. If somebody was underrepresented it sure was the women.
Wasn't one of the two Meg Whitman as well?
I don't think a crazy woman who spends maybe 1-2% of her time at work really counts for much in the female column either.