The scalpers are already lining up 12 hours before the stores open, and camping out. They're organized and have huge groups of people at every single Apple store. They know more about what's going on than anybody else, because they are in communication with each other.
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Apple has tried to do something about the Asian scalpers in the past but Apple was warned by the Attorney General that they can't discriminate based on race. So Apple should find other ways to discriminate against them that is not racially based and implement methods to put a stop to those hoodlums.
There's only a few things Apple can do and some they wouldn't want to do because then the blogosphere would go nuts. They should limit purchases to one per customer. They could (possibly) only permit purchases with a credit card (not sure if this would be legal) and only permit one purchase every 30 days per credit card account, although this would have limited effect because most people have multiple credit cards.
They could also (although here's where they might get tons of criticism) not permit account/warranty registrations from outside the U.S. for serial numbers purchased in the U.S. But this could get tricky and interfere with legit sales from tourists, etc.
Also, they could only provide warranty support to the original purchaser. Many hardware companies do this.
Another tact would be is that you go online to get a ticket that has a date/time that you can return to pick up the iPad (perhaps with a credit card deposit). That way, the resellers couldn't line up at 4am or whatever, although there would probably be a market in those tickets and someone would probably write a robot to get those tickets.
The problem with all this would be that Apple would probably get criticism from people claiming that with all these restrictions, Apple is in effect "licensing" the hardware rather than selling it. And I think that's why Apple isn't doing much to stop it. Before the earthquake, Apple probably thought that supply would soon catch up to demand. But if Apple really is relying upon parts from Japan that they haven't yet received, the iPad2 will be in short supply for a long time to come.
But in the end, so what? No one is going to die by not having an iPad 2.
That's interesting info. Hopefully I'll be playing that game soon too.
I've done that too. But I have to say, one mistake could be quite painful (like say holding on too long at the start of the recent depression and re-entering too late.)
Buy and hold will do pretty darn well for you on this stock.
I've done that too. But I have to say, one mistake could be quite painful (like say holding on too long at the start of the recent depression and re-entering too late.)
Buy and hold will do pretty darn well for you on this stock.
I agree I have lost weight playing this game! I think I will stop while I am ahead and relax on the long term. I am not a gambler by nature and on any visit to Las Vegas I watch the wife risk a few $s at Black Jack while I people watch.
Thanks I was trying to discover this info, it's not easy. So time to buy more AAPL while everyone assumes iPad 2 is doomed
I wouldn't say doomed but it does seem that there will be disruptions in supply over the next month.
Car manufacturers, Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, Taiwan Semiconductor and a few others are talking about supply problems... my guess is that Apple won't be immune from this problem.
I wouldn't say doomed but it does seem that there will be disruptions in supply over the next month.
Car manufacturers, Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, Taiwan Semiconductor and a few others are talking about supply problems... my guess is that Apple won't be immune from this problem.
Agreed but I would assume the iPad clones are in a similar position, any news on that subject?
Do it with only a few shares though my advice, for what it's worth, is buy and hold for the most part where Apple is concerned.
Thanks for the advice (and to DESuserIGN also). I am sort of a gambler though. I've even managed to make a small profit playing poker online, which is kind of hard to do on a consistent basis. That's getting kind of risky though as the Feds are trying to crackdown on that bigtime.
But yeah, if somebody is in it for the long haul, Apple certainly seems like a great investment. Just sit back and watch it grow.
Hence I mentioned triangulation using cell towers or something. You'd think there was a way.
It does not matter what kind of GPS or Triangulation you are using. They still can not tell you which way you are facing. The only way to do that is with magnets using our magnetic north or with a calibrated gyroscope (even thats a bit iffy)
Agreed but I would assume the iPad clones are in a similar position, any news on that subject?
The Xoom is better positioned for the supply constraints than Apple's iPad2... Motorola has the 12 units in the warehouse that will be needed until things get back to normal...
By the way.. How does the compass fare in the iPad2 that is practically covered with magnets? Does it even work? I mean, it's bad as it is on the iPhone.
Whatever happened to using the sun and stars for directions instead of relying on a technological device?
This will no doubt be taken the wrong way ... but psychologically speaking I suspect the peoples in developed nations have developed a sort of mental defense where third world country disasters are concerned. We care and we help but in my life time they have been unending and a sort of 'what's next' feeling occurs. Many disasters are even self inflicted by despotic leaders although a lot are natural disasters but worsened by poor building and lousy infrastructure. There is something jarring however, when we witness a disaster in a first world country such as New Zealand or Japan, not because we care more rather because it makes us realize we too are not immune from a disaster and it shocks us far more. Does this make sense?
Even 'one per person' won't really stop the scalpers cause they will just hire more folks. It's the same money to them.
You might be right about that, but one big difference it would have is that the actual people who would be standing on line would see their wage cut by 50% as they would only be able to deliver one device to the ringleader per day and perhaps less people would be willing to physically live at the Apple stores for that low amount of money.
It does not matter what kind of GPS or Triangulation you are using. They still can not tell you which way you are facing. The only way to do that is with magnets using our magnetic north or with a calibrated gyroscope (even thats a bit iffy)
There are gyroscopic compasses and GPS dual antennae devices that can tell you exactly where you are facing (I only know as I just read up on this ... no doubt all way too large but I have to think the magnetic compass will be replaced by higher tech in consumer devices soon.
But ... always keep a traditional compass incase of power failure
This will no doubt be taken the wrong way ... but psychologically speaking I suspect the peoples in developed nations have developed a sort of mental defense where third world country disasters are concerned.
I find many third world countries to be so utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt that even when massive aid is given, vast amounts are stolen and wasted and in the end, it doesn't really help those who are in need of it. Primitive societies will have to dig themselves out of their own holes. That's the way I see it at least.
I find many third world countries to be so utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt that even when massive aid is given, vast amounts are stolen and wasted and in the end, it doesn't really help those who are in need of it. Primitive societies will have to dig themselves out of their own holes. That's the way I see it at least.
However, that isn't the fault of the population. It is a judgement on their so called leaders. It is also just as much the fault of western governments who do business with despots as it is in their interest.
btw partial quoting can be misleading. Just saying
Hey give the US a chance, we are only a couple of years in recovery after all those years of pro creationism and other anti-science madness. I think we are about 27th or thereabouts now. Hopefully we can do something serious about math and science teaching over the next few years. The Intel sponsored kids science fair was pretty cool the other day. One thing I do notice if how many more hours of class and homework kids in the leading math and science countries put in. In the end though it may be more about parental attitudes, in those countries teachers are respected and science isn't constantly being attacked as being liberal and leftist.
Oh Boo Hoo! I probably should have resisted the impulse to respond. You are either very young or very stupid - probably both. The downturn in math and science coincides with a turning away from what you call "creationism." You probably read it hear first, it is going to get a lot worse.
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The scalpers are already lining up 12 hours before the stores open, and camping out. They're organized and have huge groups of people at every single Apple store. They know more about what's going on than anybody else, because they are in communication with each other.
....
Apple has tried to do something about the Asian scalpers in the past but Apple was warned by the Attorney General that they can't discriminate based on race. So Apple should find other ways to discriminate against them that is not racially based and implement methods to put a stop to those hoodlums.
There's only a few things Apple can do and some they wouldn't want to do because then the blogosphere would go nuts. They should limit purchases to one per customer. They could (possibly) only permit purchases with a credit card (not sure if this would be legal) and only permit one purchase every 30 days per credit card account, although this would have limited effect because most people have multiple credit cards.
They could also (although here's where they might get tons of criticism) not permit account/warranty registrations from outside the U.S. for serial numbers purchased in the U.S. But this could get tricky and interfere with legit sales from tourists, etc.
Also, they could only provide warranty support to the original purchaser. Many hardware companies do this.
Another tact would be is that you go online to get a ticket that has a date/time that you can return to pick up the iPad (perhaps with a credit card deposit). That way, the resellers couldn't line up at 4am or whatever, although there would probably be a market in those tickets and someone would probably write a robot to get those tickets.
The problem with all this would be that Apple would probably get criticism from people claiming that with all these restrictions, Apple is in effect "licensing" the hardware rather than selling it. And I think that's why Apple isn't doing much to stop it. Before the earthquake, Apple probably thought that supply would soon catch up to demand. But if Apple really is relying upon parts from Japan that they haven't yet received, the iPad2 will be in short supply for a long time to come.
But in the end, so what? No one is going to die by not having an iPad 2.
That's interesting info. Hopefully I'll be playing that game soon too.
I've done that too. But I have to say, one mistake could be quite painful (like say holding on too long at the start of the recent depression and re-entering too late.)
Buy and hold will do pretty darn well for you on this stock.
I've done that too. But I have to say, one mistake could be quite painful (like say holding on too long at the start of the recent depression and re-entering too late.)
Buy and hold will do pretty darn well for you on this stock.
I agree I have lost weight playing this game! I think I will stop while I am ahead and relax on the long term. I am not a gambler by nature and on any visit to Las Vegas I watch the wife risk a few $s at Black Jack while I people watch.
Thanks I was trying to discover this info, it's not easy. So time to buy more AAPL while everyone assumes iPad 2 is doomed
I wouldn't say doomed but it does seem that there will be disruptions in supply over the next month.
Car manufacturers, Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, Taiwan Semiconductor and a few others are talking about supply problems... my guess is that Apple won't be immune from this problem.
That's interesting info. Hopefully I'll be playing that game soon too.
Do it with only a few shares though my advice, for what it's worth, is buy and hold for the most part where Apple is concerned.
I wouldn't say doomed but it does seem that there will be disruptions in supply over the next month.
Car manufacturers, Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, Taiwan Semiconductor and a few others are talking about supply problems... my guess is that Apple won't be immune from this problem.
Agreed but I would assume the iPad clones are in a similar position, any news on that subject?
ranReloaded is from Tokyo so understandably may be a little emotionally sensitive to various topics is thread. I'd give him a pass on this.
I can certainly see why speculation at this time is distasteful to anyone actually in japan.
Do it with only a few shares though my advice, for what it's worth, is buy and hold for the most part where Apple is concerned.
Thanks for the advice (and to DESuserIGN also). I am sort of a gambler though. I've even managed to make a small profit playing poker online, which is kind of hard to do on a consistent basis. That's getting kind of risky though as the Feds are trying to crackdown on that bigtime.
But yeah, if somebody is in it for the long haul, Apple certainly seems like a great investment. Just sit back and watch it grow.
Yes, as I was posting. Just as he already responded to my post (as you were posting.)
In any case the nuclear situation in Japan could turn far more serious in an instant, given an unfortunate change of events and wind direction.
Absolutely. We still don't know the whole truth I suspect.
Hence I mentioned triangulation using cell towers or something. You'd think there was a way.
It does not matter what kind of GPS or Triangulation you are using. They still can not tell you which way you are facing. The only way to do that is with magnets using our magnetic north or with a calibrated gyroscope (even thats a bit iffy)
Agreed but I would assume the iPad clones are in a similar position, any news on that subject?
The Xoom is better positioned for the supply constraints than Apple's iPad2... Motorola has the 12 units in the warehouse that will be needed until things get back to normal...
By the way.. How does the compass fare in the iPad2 that is practically covered with magnets? Does it even work? I mean, it's bad as it is on the iPhone.
Whatever happened to using the sun and stars for directions instead of relying on a technological device?
Whatever happened to using the sun and stars for directions instead of relying on a technological device?
Shortage of parts for sextants.
lol. can anyone here say "Haiti"
This will no doubt be taken the wrong way ... but psychologically speaking I suspect the peoples in developed nations have developed a sort of mental defense where third world country disasters are concerned. We care and we help but in my life time they have been unending and a sort of 'what's next' feeling occurs. Many disasters are even self inflicted by despotic leaders although a lot are natural disasters but worsened by poor building and lousy infrastructure. There is something jarring however, when we witness a disaster in a first world country such as New Zealand or Japan, not because we care more rather because it makes us realize we too are not immune from a disaster and it shocks us far more. Does this make sense?
Even 'one per person' won't really stop the scalpers cause they will just hire more folks. It's the same money to them.
You might be right about that, but one big difference it would have is that the actual people who would be standing on line would see their wage cut by 50% as they would only be able to deliver one device to the ringleader per day and perhaps less people would be willing to physically live at the Apple stores for that low amount of money.
It does not matter what kind of GPS or Triangulation you are using. They still can not tell you which way you are facing. The only way to do that is with magnets using our magnetic north or with a calibrated gyroscope (even thats a bit iffy)
There are gyroscopic compasses and GPS dual antennae devices that can tell you exactly where you are facing (I only know as I just read up on this
But ... always keep a traditional compass incase of power failure
Whatever happened to using the sun and stars for directions instead of relying on a technological device?
Ever been to the UK? Sun, stars?? What are you thinking
This will no doubt be taken the wrong way ... but psychologically speaking I suspect the peoples in developed nations have developed a sort of mental defense where third world country disasters are concerned.
I find many third world countries to be so utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt that even when massive aid is given, vast amounts are stolen and wasted and in the end, it doesn't really help those who are in need of it. Primitive societies will have to dig themselves out of their own holes. That's the way I see it at least.
I find many third world countries to be so utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt that even when massive aid is given, vast amounts are stolen and wasted and in the end, it doesn't really help those who are in need of it. Primitive societies will have to dig themselves out of their own holes. That's the way I see it at least.
However, that isn't the fault of the population. It is a judgement on their so called leaders. It is also just as much the fault of western governments who do business with despots as it is in their interest.
btw partial quoting can be misleading. Just saying
Hey give the US a chance, we are only a couple of years in recovery after all those years of pro creationism and other anti-science madness. I think we are about 27th or thereabouts now. Hopefully we can do something serious about math and science teaching over the next few years. The Intel sponsored kids science fair was pretty cool the other day. One thing I do notice if how many more hours of class and homework kids in the leading math and science countries put in. In the end though it may be more about parental attitudes, in those countries teachers are respected and science isn't constantly being attacked as being liberal and leftist.
Oh Boo Hoo! I probably should have resisted the impulse to respond. You are either very young or very stupid - probably both. The downturn in math and science coincides with a turning away from what you call "creationism." You probably read it hear first, it is going to get a lot worse.