Apple is the biggest company on Earth now. What do they have to worry about? (snicker)
Not being the biggest company on Earth anymore, if they come up with a spec bump, while they are sitting on 90$ billion pile of cash and not using it for aggressive R&D? Do you know that NASA has a budget of 17$ billion a year? With that pile of cash Apple could land a man on the moon if they want to! They could build an International Space Station! And they are coming with the same design and... more memory? After 15 months? Really?
Not being the biggest company on Earth anymore, if they come up with a spec bump, while they are sitting on 90$ billion pile of cash and not using it for aggressive R&D? Do you know that NASA has a budget of 17$ billion a year? With that pile of cash Apple could land a man on the moon if they want to! They could build an International Space Station! And they are coming with the same design and... more memory? After 15 months? Really?
If you believe THE Steve Apple is not building a Space Station but a Spaceship.
I think construction should start in 2012 in Cupertino!
I predict Apple to announce two iPhones next. CDMA only iPhone 4S and it will be based on the iPhone 4 design with an A5 processor and no significant changes. The newer iPhone will be GSM only iPhone 5. Completely redesigned with new form, A5, HSPA+, 8MP Camera, HD FaceTime camera, and few surprises. However, I think the event will also focus on never announced before iOS features.
Oh, and an iPod touch with A5 and better camera.
Hmm... I have to disagree. iPhone 4S is GSM/CDMA because a huge amount of the world will still need the iPhone 4S.
iPhone 5 would also be GSM/CDMA because they wouldn't just f**k Verizon like that for no reason. A5, HSPA+, 8MP, HD FaceTime, agreed. 3.9" screen hopefully.
It does look like just the 4s. And one model - well two if colour matters to you.
There are no real indications of iPhone 5 parts in the wild and the accessory makers are just guessing. I don't see them releasing a 4s and announcing a 5 for later as it will hamper the uptake of the 4s.
Prepare to be disappointed.
The lack of hardware updates from 2010-2011 will be why historians see as the major reason for Apples losing the phone market.
Apple doesn't always "do things right." The notification system in iOS 4 was extremely terrible
Maybe because the notification system in iOS 4 is actually the same of iOS 2?
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Maps is a vastly inferior app compared to Android's offerings,
Is Mr Know-it-all being clueless because he wants to? We all know who's to blame for Google Maps.
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and well, Apple finally embraced resizing a window from any side in Lion a la Microsoft Windows.
And that "feature" is an important representation of the different philosophies of Apple and Microsoft... wait no. That's actually an obvious change Apple hold out too long from doing because of Status Quo whiners. Hmmm.
Apple is surely not perfect, but you could have found *actual* examples of this. It's as easy as saying "MobileMe"
iPhone 4 is the most popular smartphone ever. Does Apple need to change a winning design?
For those who argue Android competition does not allow Apple to *stand* still, is iOS 5 a sign of standing still? Furthermore, take a good look at the Galaxy S and Galaxy S2. Are they very different in form factor?
A5 processor. 8 MP camera. iOS 5. All inside the most popular smartphone design ever.
That sounds like a winning combination.
You might as well be talking to a wall. The Apple-haters and Android fans (often the same people) don't understand the concept of how software and hardware work together. For them, it's all about adding more features and more specs. An 8 MP camera MUST be better than a 5 MP camera. A device with 5 buttons MUST be better than a device with one button. A device with 100 poorly implemented functions MUST be better than a device with 50 well-designed functions.
These people are apparently incapable of understanding the concept that functionality is not only created by adding more features. It can also be created by making a more limited number of features work better than anything else out there.
You might as well be talking to a wall. The Apple-haters and Android fans (often the same people) don't understand the concept of how software and hardware work together. For them, it's all about adding more features and more specs. An 8 MP camera MUST be better than a 5 MP camera. A device with 5 buttons MUST be better than a device with one button. A device with 100 poorly implemented functions MUST be better than a device with 50 well-designed functions.
These people are apparently incapable of understanding the concept that functionality is not only created by adding more features. It can also be created by making a more limited number of features work better than anything else out there.
So all the disappointed posters on AI who were hoping to upgrade to an iPhone 5 are now "Apple haters" Look if you guys who downplay features and promote software are so adamant why not hope Apple has no features on Tuesday but merely mentions iOS 5.
Not only that but you guys mention features all the time. You quoted a post mentioning the 8M camera, then you criticized people who think about cameras. ( I could care less.) In fact it is the supporters of the 4S who support inbuilt specs. The rest if us want it to look different, we buy Apple stuff for the external look, the industrial design as much as anything else.
If Apple releases a model which looks the same it reduces the demand. There is less reason to upgrade from the 4 precisely for the reasons you state - the software is good enough.
We get that for free. Effectively the look of a phone brands it. Having different internals doesn't. The iMac is one model with different processors.
So, if true. Apple has one phone for 2012 , with different internals, from 32 G A5 to 8 G A4. That's sucicide in 2012.
My predictions are Apple will release two phones. One a slightly revised 4G phone, and a significantly revamped 4GS Phone. My only disappointment will be I would like a slightly larger screen, and I think Apple will probably lose a few customers over the screen size if it doesn't deliver (but I don't expect it increase the size). People, however, act like releasing it as a world phone, with double the speed, and a significantly improved camera is somehow a let down. Like always there will be some software development that will only work on the newer models, probably the voice abilities, which usually use a lot of processing power and consequently not work on the 4G and below models. That was what happened with camera functionality when Apple released the iPhone 4, only it could take advantage of new camera functionality. I also understand why Apple wouldn't' significantly redesign the body. It is still the number one selling phone. Why change that significantly when it is unnecessary.
Apple waited for over a year most likely because of iOS 5 not being ready. People forget the same team works on both the Mac OS, and iOS. A while back, the Mac OS was delayed while the team finished up iOS. Now the reverse probably is true. Further, it also made sense to move the release date of iOS 5 to when Apple also updates the iPods.
You might as well be talking to a wall. The Apple-haters and Android fans (often the same people) don't understand the concept of how software and hardware work together. For them, it's all about adding more features and more specs. An 8 MP camera MUST be better than a 5 MP camera. A device with 5 buttons MUST be better than a device with one button. A device with 100 poorly implemented functions MUST be better than a device with 50 well-designed functions.
These people are apparently incapable of understanding the concept that functionality is not only created by adding more features. It can also be created by making a more limited number of features work better than anything else out there.
Agreed. These Fandroids are all excitedly waiting for a new case design, tapered no less. Does not make much sense from a business strategy point of view. How the iPhone works is much more important, especially when the design is near-perfect in my opinion.
Apple knows what it is doing. There will most likely be a knee-jerk stock sell-off after Tuesday, but it will be higher a few weeks from now as earnings are reported.
"This model is supposed to represent the cheaper iPhone 4 (8 GB?) model that will replace the iPhone 3GS in the low end. The higher end iPhone is believed to be called the iPhone 4S and will carry an A5 processor."
So all the disappointed posters on AI who were hoping to upgrade to an iPhone 5 are now "Apple haters"
Where did I say that? The fact is that there are a lot of people here who whine endlessly about everything Apple ever does - and nothing is ever good enough for them. They seem to bash every Apple product for no better reason than it being from Apple.
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Originally Posted by asdasd
Look if you guys who downplay features and promote software are so adamant why not hope Apple has no features on Tuesday but merely mentions iOS 5.
See? You're obviously someone who doesn't get it. Where did I say that software is the only thing that matters? I SPECIFICALLY said that it's the hardware/software integration that matters. Furthermore, it's pretty clear that the new iPhone (or iPhones) will have a faster CPU, more RAM, and possibly a better camera. It may also be a true world phone and have other new features. The fact that the case design hasn't changed (if true) doesn't mean it's not a better phone.
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Originally Posted by asdasd
Not only that but you guys mention features all the time. You quoted a post mentioning the 8M camera, then you criticized people who think about cameras. ( I could care less.) In fact it is the supporters of the 4S who support inbuilt specs. The rest if us want it to look different, we buy Apple stuff for the external look, the industrial design as much as anything else.
Sorry, but you're imagining things. I never criticized people who think about cameras. What I've said - repeatedly- is that it's not all about specs. A 5 MP camera can be better than an 8 MP camera. A 3 MP camera can be better than a 5 MP camera.
I DID say that I didn't see a need for a rear-facing camera on an iPad, but apparently some people did.
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Originally Posted by asdasd
If Apple releases a model which looks the same it reduces the demand.
Reduces demand compared to what? Oh, compared to some imaginary, hypothetical wet dream camera that you've fantasized about. Unlike you, Apple is faced with limitations in component availability and usability. Apple has a team of people who are experts in their field and who have demonstrated an ability to lead the industry in a completely new direction. They've demonstrated the ability to continually improve their products and stay far enough ahead of the competition that the #1 and #2 phones in the world are the two iPhones.
I am sure that Apple would love to have a phone that will teleport you wherever you want to go, spit hundred dollar bills out of its port and help you get the girl. But Apple is smart enough to realize that there are limitions - both physical and commercial. They will improve the phone as much as they are able to in this iteration. That's it. Complaining that they should have done xyz is ridiculous. With their extremely talented team, you don't think it ever occurred to them to consider a larger screen? Or a 12 MP camera? Or a new case design? They've looked at the options and came up with the best new phone that they are able to provide based on the constraints.
I am far more likely to believe that Apple knows what it's doing than some anonymous strangers on AI. Until you've demonstrated the technical and commercial skills that Apple has, your opinion on what they SHOULD do is useless.
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Originally Posted by asdasd
There is less reason to upgrade from the 4 precisely for the reasons you state - the software is good enough.
No one ever said that. Apple constantly strives to improve their products. It's just that they're smart enough to know that 'improve' is not defined by how many new features you add.
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Originally Posted by asdasd
We get that for free. Effectively the look of a phone brands it. Having different internals doesn't. The iMac is one model with different processors.
So?
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Originally Posted by asdasd
So, if true. Apple has one phone for 2012 , with different internals, from 32 G A5 to 8 G A4. That's sucicide in 2012.
And please explain why anyone should believe that you know more about the phone market than Apple does. How many times have YOU revolutionized the industry? How many phones have you created that are in the top 5 phones sold (or top 500, for that matter)? How many billions of dollars worth of phone have you created and sold?
Maybe because the notification system in iOS 4 is actually the same of iOS 2?
Man you have some seriously lacking reading comprehension in your quick attempt to be a smartass. Nowhere did he compare the notification system in iOS 4 to previous versions. He was actually comparing to Android's implementation, you know, the one coming up in iOS 5 without all those annoying popups?
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Originally Posted by Lukeskymac
Is Mr Know-it-all being clueless because he wants to? We all know who's to blame for Google Maps.
And he wasn't complaining about the quality of Google's mapping data in the Map app. Rather, the lackluster implementation by Apple OF Google's mapping data. For comparison purposes, in addition to your standard map download/GPS location, the Android version also offers a comprehensive GPS Navigation mode, directions to nearby places (can also be voice activated) and offline caching of mapping data.
Now who's the clueless Mr. Know-it-all?
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Originally Posted by Lukeskymac
And that "feature" is an important representation of the different philosophies of Apple and Microsoft... wait no. That's actually an obvious change Apple hold out too long from doing because of Status Quo whiners. Hmmm.
Apple is surely not perfect, but you could have found *actual* examples of this. It's as easy as saying "MobileMe"
Apple purposely held up a feature because of some whiners? Righttttttt.
Fandroids are people who want Apple to keep up with the competition and were hoping for a new design so they could give Apple more money.
You fanatics give Apple fans a bad name.
Me? A fanatic? What, you're going to tell me I'm a sheep on kool-aid? I'm not the one talking about "the integration of hardware and software" as if the actual looks of the phone had anything to do with it, and then bashing the possibility of this year's greatest changes coming from software rather than just hardware.
Man you have some seriously lacking reading comprehension in your quick attempt to be a smartass. Nowhere did he compare the notification system in iOS 4 to previous versions. He was actually comparing to Android's implementation, you know, the one coming up in iOS 5 without all those annoying popups?
No, he complained about the notification system in iOS 4 as if was something new Apple made to try to catch up and failed miserably. But the truth is Apple didn't lay a finger on it since iOS 2, and back then Android was just a Linux-nerd's wet dream.
Besides, the "android notification system" actually appeared in jailbroken versions of iPhone, if I'm not mistaken. And iOS 5's notifications are notably better organized.
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And he wasn't complaining about the quality of Google's mapping data in the Map app. Rather, the lackluster implementation by Apple OF Google's mapping data. For comparison purposes, in addition to your standard map download/GPS location, the Android version also offers a comprehensive GPS Navigation mode, directions to nearby places (can also be voice activated) and offline caching of mapping data.
Now who's the clueless Mr. Know-it-all?
And we know Google has nothing to do with it because....?
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Apple purposely held up a feature because of some whiners? Righttttttt.
Did Apple maintain Classic interface features in early versions of OS X to facilitate user adaptation? Oh yes it did.
If there is indeed an iphone 4S there is no way there will be an iPhone 5. If they were the same price everyone would buy the 5. If doubt they would upgrade the 4 to a 4S and offer it as a cheaper alternative to a 5. Apple uses old models as the cheaper phone. Apple will launch one model: the iPhone 4S. And we will all skip it and wait until 2012 and buy the iPhone 5LTE.
You are in the hole so stop digging. Asdad argued, and won, that iPhone 4S isn't going to cut it across the Pacific where contracts are negligible and Samsung's Galaxy Series won the spec battle. Stop backtracking and weaseling, say sorry already.
Not to mention HTC Sense shell has crack Apple's design formula with Nokia SeaRay on shelves in Shanghai, Hong Hong and Kuala Lumper this November. And I mean CASH AND CARRY, not pre-order.
(Demo units of N9 and Sea Ray were in Bangkok Mobile Expo this weekend. If this is going to be a farewell release, they are among the best)
And Asdad, call your broker to short AAPL yet? I could use cash next month.
By the way, if we discount USA market entirely for being too isolate to provide reliable data, how iPhone 4 fare across the Atlantic. On this side iPhone is being pummeled but the line hold, Samsung launches SS Waffen brigade of Galaxy dual-core and 1.5GHz Plus with 3D sets coming from LG(Optimus 3D) and HTC(Evo 3D), all for the price of used iPhone 4.(฿17000)
While BB opens the BlackBerry Store to keep up with branding.
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Apple is the biggest company on Earth now. What do they have to worry about? (snicker)
Not being the biggest company on Earth anymore, if they come up with a spec bump, while they are sitting on 90$ billion pile of cash and not using it for aggressive R&D? Do you know that NASA has a budget of 17$ billion a year? With that pile of cash Apple could land a man on the moon if they want to! They could build an International Space Station! And they are coming with the same design and... more memory? After 15 months? Really?
Not being the biggest company on Earth anymore, if they come up with a spec bump, while they are sitting on 90$ billion pile of cash and not using it for aggressive R&D? Do you know that NASA has a budget of 17$ billion a year? With that pile of cash Apple could land a man on the moon if they want to! They could build an International Space Station! And they are coming with the same design and... more memory? After 15 months? Really?
If you believe THE Steve Apple is not building a Space Station but a Spaceship.
I think construction should start in 2012 in Cupertino!
Approvado! And Muy Obrigado! <--Edited from "Mui Abrigado"
http://www.gizmodo.com/2011/10/gizmo...ade-in-brazil/
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/01/...xconn-factory/
I predict Apple to announce two iPhones next. CDMA only iPhone 4S and it will be based on the iPhone 4 design with an A5 processor and no significant changes. The newer iPhone will be GSM only iPhone 5. Completely redesigned with new form, A5, HSPA+, 8MP Camera, HD FaceTime camera, and few surprises. However, I think the event will also focus on never announced before iOS features.
Oh, and an iPod touch with A5 and better camera.
Hmm... I have to disagree. iPhone 4S is GSM/CDMA because a huge amount of the world will still need the iPhone 4S.
iPhone 5 would also be GSM/CDMA because they wouldn't just f**k Verizon like that for no reason. A5, HSPA+, 8MP, HD FaceTime, agreed. 3.9" screen hopefully.
There are no real indications of iPhone 5 parts in the wild and the accessory makers are just guessing. I don't see them releasing a 4s and announcing a 5 for later as it will hamper the uptake of the 4s.
Prepare to be disappointed.
The lack of hardware updates from 2010-2011 will be why historians see as the major reason for Apples losing the phone market.
Apple doesn't always "do things right." The notification system in iOS 4 was extremely terrible
Maybe because the notification system in iOS 4 is actually the same of iOS 2?
Maps is a vastly inferior app compared to Android's offerings,
Is Mr Know-it-all being clueless because he wants to? We all know who's to blame for Google Maps.
and well, Apple finally embraced resizing a window from any side in Lion a la Microsoft Windows.
And that "feature" is an important representation of the different philosophies of Apple and Microsoft... wait no. That's actually an obvious change Apple hold out too long from doing because of Status Quo whiners. Hmmm.
Apple is surely not perfect, but you could have found *actual* examples of this. It's as easy as saying "MobileMe"
I JUST GOT MY BRAZILIAN DONE.
Approvado! And Muy Obrigado! <--Edited from "Mui Abrigado"
.... that's still wrong
EDIT 2: Nevermind
iPhone 4 is the most popular smartphone ever. Does Apple need to change a winning design?
For those who argue Android competition does not allow Apple to *stand* still, is iOS 5 a sign of standing still? Furthermore, take a good look at the Galaxy S and Galaxy S2. Are they very different in form factor?
A5 processor. 8 MP camera. iOS 5. All inside the most popular smartphone design ever.
That sounds like a winning combination.
You might as well be talking to a wall. The Apple-haters and Android fans (often the same people) don't understand the concept of how software and hardware work together. For them, it's all about adding more features and more specs. An 8 MP camera MUST be better than a 5 MP camera. A device with 5 buttons MUST be better than a device with one button. A device with 100 poorly implemented functions MUST be better than a device with 50 well-designed functions.
These people are apparently incapable of understanding the concept that functionality is not only created by adding more features. It can also be created by making a more limited number of features work better than anything else out there.
Yes it is. But I already have one! Why would I buy another one???
Would having massively upgraded internals and an even better camera make it "the same"?
You might as well be talking to a wall. The Apple-haters and Android fans (often the same people) don't understand the concept of how software and hardware work together. For them, it's all about adding more features and more specs. An 8 MP camera MUST be better than a 5 MP camera. A device with 5 buttons MUST be better than a device with one button. A device with 100 poorly implemented functions MUST be better than a device with 50 well-designed functions.
These people are apparently incapable of understanding the concept that functionality is not only created by adding more features. It can also be created by making a more limited number of features work better than anything else out there.
So all the disappointed posters on AI who were hoping to upgrade to an iPhone 5 are now "Apple haters" Look if you guys who downplay features and promote software are so adamant why not hope Apple has no features on Tuesday but merely mentions iOS 5.
Not only that but you guys mention features all the time. You quoted a post mentioning the 8M camera, then you criticized people who think about cameras. ( I could care less.) In fact it is the supporters of the 4S who support inbuilt specs. The rest if us want it to look different, we buy Apple stuff for the external look, the industrial design as much as anything else.
If Apple releases a model which looks the same it reduces the demand. There is less reason to upgrade from the 4 precisely for the reasons you state - the software is good enough.
We get that for free. Effectively the look of a phone brands it. Having different internals doesn't. The iMac is one model with different processors.
So, if true. Apple has one phone for 2012 , with different internals, from 32 G A5 to 8 G A4. That's sucicide in 2012.
Would having massively upgraded internals and an even better camera make it "the same"?
If it looks the same, yes. It's all about the software and hardware integration, not about the specs.
Apple waited for over a year most likely because of iOS 5 not being ready. People forget the same team works on both the Mac OS, and iOS. A while back, the Mac OS was delayed while the team finished up iOS. Now the reverse probably is true. Further, it also made sense to move the release date of iOS 5 to when Apple also updates the iPods.
You might as well be talking to a wall. The Apple-haters and Android fans (often the same people) don't understand the concept of how software and hardware work together. For them, it's all about adding more features and more specs. An 8 MP camera MUST be better than a 5 MP camera. A device with 5 buttons MUST be better than a device with one button. A device with 100 poorly implemented functions MUST be better than a device with 50 well-designed functions.
These people are apparently incapable of understanding the concept that functionality is not only created by adding more features. It can also be created by making a more limited number of features work better than anything else out there.
Agreed. These Fandroids are all excitedly waiting for a new case design, tapered no less. Does not make much sense from a business strategy point of view. How the iPhone works is much more important, especially when the design is near-perfect in my opinion.
Apple knows what it is doing. There will most likely be a knee-jerk stock sell-off after Tuesday, but it will be higher a few weeks from now as earnings are reported.
Here is a story that supports what I have said.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/01/...xconn-factory/
An excerpt...
"This model is supposed to represent the cheaper iPhone 4 (8 GB?) model that will replace the iPhone 3GS in the low end. The higher end iPhone is believed to be called the iPhone 4S and will carry an A5 processor."
You fanatics give Apple fans a bad name.
So all the disappointed posters on AI who were hoping to upgrade to an iPhone 5 are now "Apple haters"
Where did I say that? The fact is that there are a lot of people here who whine endlessly about everything Apple ever does - and nothing is ever good enough for them. They seem to bash every Apple product for no better reason than it being from Apple.
Look if you guys who downplay features and promote software are so adamant why not hope Apple has no features on Tuesday but merely mentions iOS 5.
See? You're obviously someone who doesn't get it. Where did I say that software is the only thing that matters? I SPECIFICALLY said that it's the hardware/software integration that matters. Furthermore, it's pretty clear that the new iPhone (or iPhones) will have a faster CPU, more RAM, and possibly a better camera. It may also be a true world phone and have other new features. The fact that the case design hasn't changed (if true) doesn't mean it's not a better phone.
Not only that but you guys mention features all the time. You quoted a post mentioning the 8M camera, then you criticized people who think about cameras. ( I could care less.) In fact it is the supporters of the 4S who support inbuilt specs. The rest if us want it to look different, we buy Apple stuff for the external look, the industrial design as much as anything else.
Sorry, but you're imagining things. I never criticized people who think about cameras. What I've said - repeatedly- is that it's not all about specs. A 5 MP camera can be better than an 8 MP camera. A 3 MP camera can be better than a 5 MP camera.
I DID say that I didn't see a need for a rear-facing camera on an iPad, but apparently some people did.
If Apple releases a model which looks the same it reduces the demand.
Reduces demand compared to what? Oh, compared to some imaginary, hypothetical wet dream camera that you've fantasized about. Unlike you, Apple is faced with limitations in component availability and usability. Apple has a team of people who are experts in their field and who have demonstrated an ability to lead the industry in a completely new direction. They've demonstrated the ability to continually improve their products and stay far enough ahead of the competition that the #1 and #2 phones in the world are the two iPhones.
I am sure that Apple would love to have a phone that will teleport you wherever you want to go, spit hundred dollar bills out of its port and help you get the girl. But Apple is smart enough to realize that there are limitions - both physical and commercial. They will improve the phone as much as they are able to in this iteration. That's it. Complaining that they should have done xyz is ridiculous. With their extremely talented team, you don't think it ever occurred to them to consider a larger screen? Or a 12 MP camera? Or a new case design? They've looked at the options and came up with the best new phone that they are able to provide based on the constraints.
I am far more likely to believe that Apple knows what it's doing than some anonymous strangers on AI. Until you've demonstrated the technical and commercial skills that Apple has, your opinion on what they SHOULD do is useless.
There is less reason to upgrade from the 4 precisely for the reasons you state - the software is good enough.
No one ever said that. Apple constantly strives to improve their products. It's just that they're smart enough to know that 'improve' is not defined by how many new features you add.
We get that for free. Effectively the look of a phone brands it. Having different internals doesn't. The iMac is one model with different processors.
So?
So, if true. Apple has one phone for 2012 , with different internals, from 32 G A5 to 8 G A4. That's sucicide in 2012.
And please explain why anyone should believe that you know more about the phone market than Apple does. How many times have YOU revolutionized the industry? How many phones have you created that are in the top 5 phones sold (or top 500, for that matter)? How many billions of dollars worth of phone have you created and sold?
Maybe because the notification system in iOS 4 is actually the same of iOS 2?
Man you have some seriously lacking reading comprehension in your quick attempt to be a smartass. Nowhere did he compare the notification system in iOS 4 to previous versions. He was actually comparing to Android's implementation, you know, the one coming up in iOS 5 without all those annoying popups?
Is Mr Know-it-all being clueless because he wants to? We all know who's to blame for Google Maps.
And he wasn't complaining about the quality of Google's mapping data in the Map app. Rather, the lackluster implementation by Apple OF Google's mapping data. For comparison purposes, in addition to your standard map download/GPS location, the Android version also offers a comprehensive GPS Navigation mode, directions to nearby places (can also be voice activated) and offline caching of mapping data.
Now who's the clueless Mr. Know-it-all?
And that "feature" is an important representation of the different philosophies of Apple and Microsoft... wait no. That's actually an obvious change Apple hold out too long from doing because of Status Quo whiners. Hmmm.
Apple is surely not perfect, but you could have found *actual* examples of this. It's as easy as saying "MobileMe"
Apple purposely held up a feature because of some whiners? Righttttttt.
Fandroids are people who want Apple to keep up with the competition and were hoping for a new design so they could give Apple more money.
You fanatics give Apple fans a bad name.
Me? A fanatic? What, you're going to tell me I'm a sheep on kool-aid? I'm not the one talking about "the integration of hardware and software" as if the actual looks of the phone had anything to do with it, and then bashing the possibility of this year's greatest changes coming from software rather than just hardware.
Man you have some seriously lacking reading comprehension in your quick attempt to be a smartass. Nowhere did he compare the notification system in iOS 4 to previous versions. He was actually comparing to Android's implementation, you know, the one coming up in iOS 5 without all those annoying popups?
No, he complained about the notification system in iOS 4 as if was something new Apple made to try to catch up and failed miserably. But the truth is Apple didn't lay a finger on it since iOS 2, and back then Android was just a Linux-nerd's wet dream.
Besides, the "android notification system" actually appeared in jailbroken versions of iPhone, if I'm not mistaken. And iOS 5's notifications are notably better organized.
And he wasn't complaining about the quality of Google's mapping data in the Map app. Rather, the lackluster implementation by Apple OF Google's mapping data. For comparison purposes, in addition to your standard map download/GPS location, the Android version also offers a comprehensive GPS Navigation mode, directions to nearby places (can also be voice activated) and offline caching of mapping data.
Now who's the clueless Mr. Know-it-all?
And we know Google has nothing to do with it because....?
Apple purposely held up a feature because of some whiners? Righttttttt.
Did Apple maintain Classic interface features in early versions of OS X to facilitate user adaptation? Oh yes it did.
Not to mention HTC Sense shell has crack Apple's design formula with Nokia SeaRay on shelves in Shanghai, Hong Hong and Kuala Lumper this November. And I mean CASH AND CARRY, not pre-order.
(Demo units of N9 and Sea Ray were in Bangkok Mobile Expo this weekend. If this is going to be a farewell release, they are among the best)
And Asdad, call your broker to short AAPL yet? I could use cash next month.
By the way, if we discount USA market entirely for being too isolate to provide reliable data, how iPhone 4 fare across the Atlantic. On this side iPhone is being pummeled but the line hold, Samsung launches SS Waffen brigade of Galaxy dual-core and 1.5GHz Plus with 3D sets coming from LG(Optimus 3D) and HTC(Evo 3D), all for the price of used iPhone 4.(฿17000)
While BB opens the BlackBerry Store to keep up with branding.