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  • Reply 141 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    Uh no, that's the generally accepted definition of 'the west' or 'Western'.



    Here you go, from the Oxford dictionary:



    western |ˈwɛstərn|

    adjective

    1 [ attrib. ] situated in the west, or directed toward or facing the west: there will be showers in some western areas.

    ? (of a wind) blowing from the west.

    2 (usu. Western )living in or originating from the west, in particular Europe or the US: Western society.



    Don't they teach you even this basic stuff in Korean schools? In the west (that'd be Europe, most of North America, Australia, New Zealand and so on) we learn it in elementary school if not earlier. \



    Here's something you don't understand about my argument. In East Asia, the Chinese and Koreans don't call Japanese inventions or technology as "Asian technology" at all. But your media and especially, Americans love to make broad claims that "they" stole western technology. We all know who "they" is, right? I didn't have to even say it but you already knew. See, that's the kind of power the media and preconceived notions have over you.
  • Reply 142 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
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    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    von Braun is the Father of rocket science and built the Saturn V rocket. When the truth hits you, you run away, don't you?



    No, you'd be only half-correct there. He was the father of the Saturn V rocket (he did his first experiments in 1930), but he actually built on the work of Goddard, who was the father of the liquid-fueled rocket (built in 1926).



    You should at the very least do a wiki check of basic history before you post silly comments on a public forum. They make you and all the other Korean nationalists look very very ignorant.



    No, actually, when I'm faced with ridiculous rantings from rabid nationalists like yourself I either laugh or smack them with the truth until they beg for mercy, or until they slip up and make even more ridiculous (often hysterically funny) comments; it depends on my mood.
  • Reply 143 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    Here's something you don't understand about my argument. In Asia, the Chinese and Koreans don't call Japanese inventions or technology as "Asian technology" at all. But your media and especially, Americans love to make broad claims that "they" stole western technology. We all know who "they" is, right? I didn't have to even say but you already knew. See, that's the kind of power the media has over you.



    Clearly.
  • Reply 144 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    No, you'd be only half-correct there. He was the father of the Saturn V rocket (he did his first experiments in 1930), but he actually built on the work of Goddard, who was the father of the liquid-fueled rocket (built in 1926).



    You should at the very least do a wiki check of basic history before you post silly comments on a public forum. They make you and all the other Korean nationalists look very very ignorant.



    No, actually, when I'm faced with ridiculous rantings from rabid nationalists like yourself I either laugh or smack them with the truth until they beg for mercy, depending on my mood.



    While you're checking out wikipedia, look up name-calling, will you?
  • Reply 145 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    No, you'd be only half-correct there. He was the father of the Saturn V rocket (he did his first experiments in 1930), but he actually built on the work of Goddard, who was the father of the liquid-fueled rocket (built in 1926).



    You should at the very least do a wiki check of basic history before you post silly comments on a public forum. They make you and all the other Korean nationalists look very very ignorant.



    No, actually, when I'm faced with ridiculous rantings from rabid nationalists like yourself I either laugh or smack them with the truth until they beg for mercy, or until they slip up and make even more ridiculous (often hysterically funny) comments; it depends on my mood.



    You can't accept the facts. You just won't. It's your American pride I guess. Have to be number 1. You betcha!



    "The V-2, however, was technically far more advanced than the most successful of the rockets designed and tested by Goddard. The Peenemünde rocket group led by Wernher von Braun may have benefited from the pre-1939 contacts to a limited extent, but had also started from the work of their own space pioneer, Hermann Oberth" (excerpted from Wikipedia.)





    I don't even want to go into jet engines and talk about the father of that now... It has to be an American, right? Wrong.
  • Reply 146 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    [QUOTE=eric475;Koreans don't call Japanese inventions or technology as "Asian technology" at all. [/QUOTE]



    That's right, they call it "Korean technology".
  • Reply 147 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    That's right, they call it "Korean technology".



    Yes, they do. (I'm serious)
  • Reply 148 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    You can't accept the facts. You just won't. It's your American pride I guess. Have to be number 1. You betcha!



    "The V-2, however, was technically far more advanced than the most successful of the rockets designed and tested by Goddard. The Peenemünde rocket group led by Wernher von Braun may have benefited from the pre-1939 contacts to a limited extent, but had also started from the work of their own space pioneer, Hermann Oberth" (excerpted from Wikipedia.)





    I don't even want to go into jet engines and talk about the father of that now... It has to be an American, right? Wrong.



    Can we just say that a combination of western science and technologies (that'd be technologies from Europe and the US) got American men to the moon...and that it had Dick Squat to do with Korea? Would that be ok with you; it's fine with me.



    While you ponder my suggestion let's play a little game. Look around your apartment in Seoul or wherever it is you live and take away everything that runs on electricity or computers, anything that requires satellites, anything that was ever built on western science at all. You're now the proud owner of some kimchee (although minus the red peppers the Portuguese brought to Korea from South America), some soju (though not distilled and certainly not in a glass bottle or can), and a pile of rubble. Congratulations!
  • Reply 149 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    Yes, they do. (I'm serious)



    I KNOW they do. I've heard it many times.
  • Reply 150 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    Can we just say that a combination of western science and technologies (that'd be technologies from Europe and the US) got American men to the moon...and that it had Dick Squat to do with Korea? Would that be ok with you; it's fine with me.



    While you ponder my suggestion let's play a little game. Look around your apartment in Seoul or wherever it is you live and take away everything that runs on electricity or computers, anything that requires satellites, anything that was ever built on western science at all. You're now the proud owner of some kimchee (although minus the red peppers the Portuguese brought to Korea from South America), some soju (though not distilled and certainly not in a glass bottle or can), and a pile of rubble. Congratulations!



    America doesn't manufacture computers, fridges, or electronics in its heartlands anymore. Heard of how America's manufacturing base has been hollowed out? So banish all those made in China products from your home for an "hollowed out" experience. And try enjoying a Merry Christmas without those cheap toys and gadgets made from China. You know them, they've got this white Apple logo plastered on the back.



    And putting up the money while taking European technology for your moon project is no different from what China is doing from one industry to another. You won't give up and admit that without von Braun there would be no rocket to the moon. Even when NASA scientists agree with that statement!



    And the Soviets sent the first artificial satellite into space. Never heard of Sputnik? Now you're also claiming Soviet technology as your shared western technology? Sad. Sad.
  • Reply 151 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    America doesn't manufacture computers, fridges, electronics in their country anymore. Heard of how America's manufacturing base has been hollowed out? So banish all those made in China products from your home for an "hollowed out" experience. And try enjoying a Merry Christmas without those cheap toys and gadgets made from China. You know them, they've got this white Apple logo on them.



    As I recall, you too are the proud owner of many Apple products. Last time I checked Steve Jobs was American and Apple is American. and Ives is British. Apple products and patents are western. Last time I checked Samsung was moving its TV assembly to places like Shuzhou, in China. Westerners don't tend to respect cultures that simply copy what we do, we do respect originality. China assembles our inventions. End of story.



    I'm looking around my place and I can't see many Chinese inventions. A couple of products that might have been assembled there, but not many actual inventions. My place is pretty much the same (I don't own a plow, I do have some paper but I generally don't use it at home.) My place is doing ok, I still have my computer, my fridge, my electric lights, my air conditioning, my cell phone, my Internet, my TV, my toilet, my stove, pretty much everything. How's the pile of rubble doing?



    Funny how you have to talk about China because you know very well that you can't talk much about Korean inventions that I'd rely on. But even China does't impress me that much actually, there are far more western inventions in a single Boeing 777 than the Chinese invented in their entire history. Pretty amazing when you consider China (like Korea) has all those people and 5000 years of history. America by comparison has far fewer people and is still relatively young nation. Japan is far more impressive than either Korea or China IMHO.
  • Reply 152 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    As I recall, you too are the proud owner of many Apple products. Last time I checked Steve Jobs was American and APple is American. Ives is British. All "western" inventions and patents.Last time I checked Samsung was moving its TV assembly to places like Shuzhou, in China.



    I'm looking around my place and I can't see a single Chinese invention. A couple of products that might have been assembled there, but not an actual invention. My place is pretty much the same (I don't own a plow). I do have some paper but I generally don't use it at home. My place is doing ok, how's the pile of rubble?



    Funny how you have to talk about China because you know very well that you can't talk much about Korean inventions that I'd rely on. But even China does't impress me that much actually, there are far more western inventions in a single Boeing 777 than the Chinese invented in their entire history. Pretty amazing when you consider China (like Korea) has all those people and 5000 years of history. America by comparison has far fewer people and is still relatively young nation. Japan is far more impressive than either Korea or China IMHO.



    After they attacked Pearl Harbor it must have left a lasting impression in your mind I guess. So you need to be knocked down by some country to be impressed with them? So that's how it works.
  • Reply 153 of 176
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    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    But even China does't impress me that much actually, there are far more western inventions in a single Boeing 777 than the Chinese invented in their entire history.



    It's always western technology. Uh-huh. Jet engine invented by who?
  • Reply 154 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    And putting up the money while taking European technology for your moon project is no different from what China is doing from one industry to another. You won't give up and admit that without von Braun there would be no rocket to the moon. Even when NASA scientists agree with that statement!



    You clearly can't read the English language at anything approaching academic level. Look back at my posts, I keep telling you that western technology means European and American, but you refuse to let that fact enter your brain. It's your Korean Reality-Block (TM) at work. And it seems to working overtime today.



    Gotta get back to work. You set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down later. We're loving it!
  • Reply 155 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    It's always western technology. Uh-huh. Jet engine invented by who?



    The English (aka westerners). Later.
  • Reply 156 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    You clearly can't read the English language at anything approaching academic level. Look back at my posts, I keep telling you that western technology means European and American, but you refuse to let that fact enter your brain. It's your Korean Reality-Block (TM) at work. And it seems to working overtime today.



    Gotta get back to work. You set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down later. We're loving it!



    Yeah, and you keep avoiding the word "American" technology for some reason. Kind of peculiar on how you avoid that word like the plague. I'm lovin' your habitual avoidance of using the words "American technology" like a Big Mac burger. Chomp. Chomp. Delicious!
  • Reply 157 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    The English (aka westerners). Later.



    So if the Swiss invent something it's like, you betcha that's western technology. That's ours! No touch! No touch!



    China stole what from the Swiss? Oh, no. It's western technology. We gotta get it back. Call the Swiss. Anyone speak Swiss German, Swiss French, Swiss Italian, or Swiss Romansh? No? Don't call them. We the West but we can't doggone speak to each other. But that's OK. We still the West. Yes, sirree (insert Texan drawl).
  • Reply 158 of 176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    You clearly can't read the English language at anything approaching academic level. Look back at my posts, I keep telling you that western technology means European and American, but you refuse to let that fact enter your brain. It's your Korean Reality-Block (TM) at work. And it seems to working overtime today.



    Gotta get back to work. You set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down later. We're loving it!



    I know some native South Koreans who have better English reading comprehension than you do. And you know what, I'm not joking either. If you've lived in South Korea as you claim (though you have these misconceptions about the roads being as wide as LA highways and streets), then you'd agree with me.
  • Reply 159 of 176
    radarradar Posts: 271member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eric475 View Post


    Yeah, and you keep avoiding saying "American" technology for some reason. Kind of peculiar on how you avoid that word like the plague.



    The airplane is American technology. Apple computers are American technology. Cray supercomputers are American technology. ICBMs are American technology. The vast majority of military hardware your country needs to defend itself is American technology. The cell phone is American technology. The microwave oven is American technology. The very computer you're using right now is American technology. You can thank American technology and Americans and British and Canadians and Indians and Australians and more for saving your country from North Korea in the 1950s. Without American technology you would likely not even be alive, if you were you'd probably be living in a still-feudal Korean agricultural society with an ox and a hanbok, dying of diseases not yet vaccinated by you guessed it, American technology. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just stating fact. It would take me till the end of my days to list every single American invention so I'll just post a very basic list for your perusal.



    There are more than 200 pages of American technology on wikipedia alone, and that's just the very tip of an enormous iceberg.





    A

    Aberdeen Chronograph

    Acrylic paint

    Adobe Flash

    Adobe Flash Professional

    Aerogel

    Airbag

    Americium

    Argon oxygen decarburization

    ARPANET

    Artificial neuron

    Artificial pacemaker

    Atkins diet

    Automatic transmission

    Autopilot

    B

    Ballistic electron emission microscopy

    Barcode

    BASIC

    Bathysphere

    Beltway battery

    Beam lead technology

    Bell X-1

    Bifocals

    BigBelly

    Bioactive glass

    Biological pacemaker

    Black light

    Boy Butter

    Breakfast cereal

    Brown truss

    Bubblegum

    Bulldozer

    Burr Truss

    C

    C (programming language)

    Carbon microphone

    Carbonless copy paper

    Carter's Little Liver Pills

    Cash register

    Catalytic converter

    Chemical oxygen iodine laser

    Cigarette

    Coca-Cola

    Cocaine (drink)

    Contour Crafting

    Cotton candy

    Cotton gin

    Cotton swab

    Crayon

    Credit card

    Crystalate

    Curium

    D

    Dazer Laser

    Dendrochronology

    Dental floss

    Dianetics

    Direct current

    Dishmaker

    DNA computing

    Doggles

    DOS

    Drop Stop

    User:Zsexdrcft/Articles as templates test

    D cont.

    Dynamic random-access memory

    E

    IMail

    Electric guitar

    Electron beam ion trap

    Electronic libretto

    Electrophotography

    Email

    Equatorial sextant

    Escalator

    Ethernet

    F

    Fax

    Ferris wheel

    Fidelipac

    Fire sprinkler

    Flashlight

    Fleshlight

    Floppy disk

    Floppy disk variants

    Flowchart

    Franklin stove

    Fresno scraper

    Fuel dispenser

    Fused deposition modeling

    G

    Gamma camera

    Gamma probe

    Gas laser

    Gilhoolie

    Glass harmonica

    Global Positioning System

    Glottochronology

    Glucose meter

    Go (programming language)

    Gore-Tex

    Graphophone

    H

    Henry rifle

    Highway Hi-Fi

    Holographic drive

    Hutchinson Patent Stopper

    Hypertext

    I

    Ice resurfacer

    Industrial robot

    Infunitum

    Integrated circuit

    Internet

    Ionocraft

    J

    Jeans

    K

    K-Y Jelly

    Kinetoscope

    Klystron

    Knuckle Racquet

    Kong (dog toy)

    L

    Lambda calculus

    Laser

    Laser printer

    LAWKS

    Light-emitting diode

    Lightning rod

    Lightning Switch

    Liquid crystal display

    Lisp (programming language)

    Loaded Questions (game)

    M

    Magnetic stripe card

    Maser

    Metallic microlattice

    Microelectromechanical system oscillator

    Microprocessor

    Microwave oven

    M cont.

    Mimeoscope

    Monopoly (game)

    Mouse (computing)

    Mouse button

    N

    N-slit interferometer

    Nanoimprint lithography

    Nanolaser

    Napalm

    Neuticles

    Neutron bomb

    Nuclear power plant

    Nuclear submarine

    Nuclear weapon

    Nylon

    O

    Obsidian hydration dating

    Ocean pressure electric conversion

    Oil well

    Optical mouse

    Oral-B Glide

    P

    Pacifier-activated lullaby

    PageRank

    Particle accelerator

    Pattern playback

    PDCA

    Perl

    Personal computer

    Phonograph

    Phonograph cylinder

    Photosensitive glass

    Plasma display

    Pneumoencephalography

    Polymerase chain reaction

    Preparation H

    Pritikin Diet

    Q

    Qore Language

    Quantum well laser

    QWERTY

    R

    Radar gun

    Radial arm saw

    Radiocarbon dating

    RAM press

    Ring spinning

    Rocket stove

    Roto-Rooter

    Rumford fireplace

    S

    Scanning acoustic microscope

    Scent Transfer Unit

    Scrabble

    Scroll wheel

    Segway Inc.

    Segway PT

    Sholes and Glidden typewriter

    Shopping cart

    Silica gel

    Smith & Wesson Model 1

    Solar cell

    Sono arsenic filter

    South Beach Diet

    Space blanket

    Space tourism

    Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell

    Steadicam

    Stereo-Pak

    Stereolithography

    Storyboard

    Supermarket

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  • Reply 160 of 176
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    Originally Posted by Radar View Post


    The airplane is American technology. Apple computers are American technology. Cray supercomputers are American technology. ICBMs are American technology. The vast majority of military hardware your country needs to defend itself is American technology. The cell phone is American technology. The microwave oven is American technology. The very computer you're using right now is American technology. You can thank American technology and Americans and British and Canadians and Indians and Australians and more for saving your country from North Korea in the 1950s. Without American technology you would likely not even be alive, if you were you'd probably be living in a still-feudal Korean agricultural society with an ox and a hanbok, dying of diseases not yet vaccinated by you guessed it, American technology. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just stating fact. It would take me till the end of my days to list every single American invention so I'll just post a very basic list for your perusal.



    There are more than 200 pages of American technology on wikipedia alone, and that's just the very tip of an enormous iceberg.





    A

    Aberdeen Chronograph

    Acrylic paint

    Adobe Flash

    Adobe Flash Professional

    Aerogel

    Airbag

    Americium

    Argon oxygen decarburization

    ARPANET

    Artificial neuron

    Artificial pacemaker

    Atkins diet

    Automatic transmission

    Autopilot

    B

    Ballistic electron emission microscopy

    Barcode

    BASIC

    Bathysphere

    Beltway battery

    Beam lead technology

    Bell X-1

    Bifocals

    BigBelly

    Bioactive glass

    Biological pacemaker

    Black light

    Boy Butter

    Breakfast cereal

    Brown truss

    Bubblegum

    Bulldozer

    Burr Truss

    C

    C (programming language)

    Carbon microphone

    Carbonless copy paper

    Carter's Little Liver Pills

    Cash register

    Catalytic converter

    Chemical oxygen iodine laser

    Cigarette

    Coca-Cola

    Cocaine (drink)

    Contour Crafting

    Cotton candy

    Cotton gin

    Cotton swab

    Crayon

    Credit card

    Crystalate

    Curium

    D

    Dazer Laser

    Dendrochronology

    Dental floss

    Dianetics

    Direct current

    Dishmaker

    DNA computing

    Doggles

    DOS

    Drop Stop

    User:Zsexdrcft/Articles as templates test

    D cont.

    Dynamic random-access memory

    E

    IMail

    Electric guitar

    Electron beam ion trap

    Electronic libretto

    Electrophotography

    Email

    Equatorial sextant

    Escalator

    Ethernet

    F

    Fax

    Ferris wheel

    Fidelipac

    Fire sprinkler

    Flashlight

    Fleshlight

    Floppy disk

    Floppy disk variants

    Flowchart

    Franklin stove

    Fresno scraper

    Fuel dispenser

    Fused deposition modeling

    G

    Gamma camera

    Gamma probe

    Gas laser

    Gilhoolie

    Glass harmonica

    Global Positioning System

    Glottochronology

    Glucose meter

    Go (programming language)

    Gore-Tex

    Graphophone

    H

    Henry rifle

    Highway Hi-Fi

    Holographic drive

    Hutchinson Patent Stopper

    Hypertext

    I

    Ice resurfacer

    Industrial robot

    Infunitum

    Integrated circuit

    Internet

    Ionocraft

    J

    Jeans

    K

    K-Y Jelly

    Kinetoscope

    Klystron

    Knuckle Racquet

    Kong (dog toy)

    L

    Lambda calculus

    Laser

    Laser printer

    LAWKS

    Light-emitting diode

    Lightning rod

    Lightning Switch

    Liquid crystal display

    Lisp (programming language)

    Loaded Questions (game)

    M

    Magnetic stripe card

    Maser

    Metallic microlattice

    Microelectromechanical system oscillator

    Microprocessor

    Microwave oven

    M cont.

    Mimeoscope

    Monopoly (game)

    Mouse (computing)

    Mouse button

    N

    N-slit interferometer

    Nanoimprint lithography

    Nanolaser

    Napalm

    Neuticles

    Neutron bomb

    Nuclear power plant

    Nuclear submarine

    Nuclear weapon

    Nylon

    O

    Obsidian hydration dating

    Ocean pressure electric conversion

    Oil well

    Optical mouse

    Oral-B Glide

    P

    Pacifier-activated lullaby

    PageRank

    Particle accelerator

    Pattern playback

    PDCA

    Perl

    Personal computer

    Phonograph

    Phonograph cylinder

    Photosensitive glass

    Plasma display

    Pneumoencephalography

    Polymerase chain reaction

    Preparation H

    Pritikin Diet

    Q

    Qore Language

    Quantum well laser

    QWERTY

    R

    Radar gun

    Radial arm saw

    Radiocarbon dating

    RAM press

    Ring spinning

    Rocket stove

    Roto-Rooter

    Rumford fireplace

    S

    Scanning acoustic microscope

    Scent Transfer Unit

    Scrabble

    Scroll wheel

    Segway Inc.

    Segway PT

    Sholes and Glidden typewriter

    Shopping cart

    Silica gel

    Smith & Wesson Model 1

    Solar cell

    Sono arsenic filter

    South Beach Diet

    Space blanket

    Space tourism

    Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell

    Steadicam

    Stereo-Pak

    Stereolithography

    Storyboard

    Supermarket

    (previous 200) (next 200)



    More shrill chest thumping. But seriously, South Beach Diet is an invention? And without the great American invention, the flashlight, I'll be deprived from the modern trappings of civilization for life?
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