<p> </p><div class="quote-container"> <span>Quote:</span> <div class="quote-block"> Originally Posted by <strong>jmgregory1</strong> <a href="/t/149750/rim-admits-it-was-behind-wake-up-mock-protest#post_2103244"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <br /> <p> Maybe it could be a successful campaign if RIM is talking about themselves - that they are the one in need of waking up (from the nightmare that has been the past 5 years since the iPhone was launched).</p> <p> </p> <p> In this already thinning marketplace, where Apple and Android rule, while even MS fights to remain viable, RIM has what I suspect is an insurmountable challenge in front of it. They'd need to have the perfect storm of great OS with no issues, big uptake by developers and a way to stem the tide of defectors, even among the [boneheaded] financial and political communities and some competitive, if not groundbreaking, new hardware. I'm not a betting man, but the odds are really not in their favor given the misses they've had on all fronts the past few years.</p> <p> </p> <p> It's not like they've all of a sudden had that "aha" moment and now they're going to right all the wrongs they've had. Sure, they've chopped the head off the monster, but what they're left with isn't going to be great or maybe even good. It would take years to get things not just up to speed but ahead of any competitor if they could hire some creative engineers.</p> </div></div><p> I mostly agree with you, though, this was also said of Apple in the late 90s. Even I, as a loyal Mac user, was feeling the hurt (wish I'd bought stock then!), and now Apple is the biggest company in the world. So, strange things <em>can</em> happen. But, for Apple, it took a truly visionary leader, and powerful, driven team to make it happen. I think part of Apple's success is driven by the passion of the Apple folks. Apple is not <em>just</em> a company they work for, it's part of who they are. Yes, some executives and employees have been lured away by other companies, and I'm sure for some, it's "just a job", but I think most folks are proud of what they do. Now, if RIM can instill that level of pride and passion into their company and product development, they might have some hope of turning things around, but now they just seem desperate.</p>
the big problem as I see it, is that everybody in waterloo (Not just RIM) makes excuses for them, thus they live in a bubble.
first the Iphone sucks, then the apple hate the "were better than apple... lets copy them", then they release the storm, torch, (which were probably copies of apple prototype with a keyboard) and finally in a fit of hubris release the playbook... which even if it is just-good-enough at 200 dollars, was unfit-for-consumption-at-the-original-price-of-500.
i still don't know why they released the playbook with build in studdering... when the Ipad was a model of fluid menus... (why-o-why could they not copy the fluidness of the iPad... had they done that then they might of had a shot) ... the answer is they did not do the work and instead allowed "FLASH" to do the work...
the this hour has 23 minutes (a CBC news/satire/comedy show skit mocking RIM ala "hells kitchen" is what RIM really needed in RIM headquarters...
if RIM would stop pandering to customers they don't have, and instead make products that the existing customers want, they may be able to prosper in a canadian sense.
Well what do you expect when you hire an ad agency whose sole claim to fame is to get people talking about your brand any way they can? They (the ad agency) never did promise the attention will be a positive one, or that they could mistake your ad for someone else.
And the moron who goes by the name of "Blunty" is the same moron who posted a three part review of the Blackberry Playbook. What a coincidence. Needless to say, it was a very positive and glowing review.
Just like those 1-post wonders on the forums that register to post "I'm a long time apple user with a <apple-product> and I recently got a <competitor-product> and I have to honestly say I'm floored! The amazing <competitor-product-story> blew me away! Blah blah blah" never to be heard from again.
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I thought that Samsung's recent commercials were pretty lame, but this RIM stunt just takes the cake. How utterly pathetic and totally desperate. Actually sending a mob to picket in front of a store? This is lower than low.
Ah, they're going to try to convince Australians that "going bankrupt, being quickly abandoned, and existing without purpose, drive, or vision" now 'means' "being in business".
Irony upon irony eh? I bet RIM shareholders wish the management at RIM had woken up about five years ago!
"I thought that Samsung's recent commercials were pretty lame, but this RIM stunt just takes the cake. How utterly pathetic and totally desperate. Actually sending a mob to picket in front of a store? This is lower than low."
That's exactly my thoughts on Obama and his union cronies when they sent their minions to the "occupy wall street" mob.
Isn't Samsung the world's number one phone maker now?
Boy, you use the term "world's number one phone maker" very broadly -- that has implications that they provide thebest phone out there. Possibly what you meant to say was that Samsung shipped the most phones --wrong again, that would still be our friendly norskies Nokia I believe.
I think a bit of research and rereading is required before you next post.
Relying on all the Media publications and attention to announce their best products released so far has not worked to have public take them seriously. This may be their last resort to save them from BB Bankruptcy.
"Samsung Electronics Australia has nothing to do with the Wake-Up Campaign," the company said in a statement.
However, Samsung Electronics South Korea does....
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Samsung is obviously lying though. Other than Microsoft who else would it be but Samsung?
Microsoft usually owns up to this kind of stuff when they do it. Ergo: It's Samsung and they are just lying.
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Originally Posted by Xian Zhu Xuande
"Samsung Electronics Australia has nothing to do with..."
I'm suspicious of that (and the specificity of that statement). This seems quite like their recent advertising campaign, but it takes some balls to come out and say you had nothing to do with it when there's a good chance it will be traced back to you if you did. Some kind of entity was behind this. Quite coordinated. Some money changed hands.
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Originally Posted by Santoanderson
Samsung: "It wasn't us. We swear!"
Everbody else: "{COUGHS}Bullsh*t!{COUGHS}"
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Originally Posted by FreeRange
What total bullshit! Samsung was absolutely behind it. And why is the ignorant press calling this a "flash mob". It WAS NOT A FLASH MOB. It was a publicity stunt with paid "actors" and has nothing to do with a flash mob so please quit showing your ignorance.
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Originally Posted by benanderson89
I can't help but think Samsung is behind every second of this. I've seen the products in person standing side by side with the Apple counterparts and it has always been an exact duplicate in more than one area. Their latest laptop, that is identical to a matte screen macbook pro in every way (apart from having a numerical pad) is so obviously a copy its painful. I have products from loads of different vendors and I'm happy with all of them but I refuse to buy from Samsung. They are the only company I know of who's antics would not be out of place in a 90s action film - you know, the evil mega-corporation who's evil and has a CEO who laughs like a panto-villian! MUWAHAHAHA!
Hot Dog is an American phrase coined at a baseball game
lol
I bet none of these folks would be posting on this thread.
It was a marketing stunt and everyone on this board, and most tech media, fell for it. I'd say it worked as planned.
I'm not sure I follow that logic. It seems most people thought it was at best dumb and at worst insulting to potential customers. Everyone assumed it was Samsung, and nobody ended up talking about RIM. That cannot have been the plan, right?
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Wow. Really, Research in Motion....REALLY? You send people out with signs to "protest" at an Apple store and mock its customers? For realz?
the big problem as I see it, is that everybody in waterloo (Not just RIM) makes excuses for them, thus they live in a bubble.
first the Iphone sucks, then the apple hate the "were better than apple... lets copy them", then they release the storm, torch, (which were probably copies of apple prototype with a keyboard) and finally in a fit of hubris release the playbook... which even if it is just-good-enough at 200 dollars, was unfit-for-consumption-at-the-original-price-of-500.
i still don't know why they released the playbook with build in studdering... when the Ipad was a model of fluid menus... (why-o-why could they not copy the fluidness of the iPad... had they done that then they might of had a shot) ... the answer is they did not do the work and instead allowed "FLASH" to do the work...
the this hour has 23 minutes (a CBC news/satire/comedy show skit mocking RIM ala "hells kitchen" is what RIM really needed in RIM headquarters...
if RIM would stop pandering to customers they don't have, and instead make products that the existing customers want, they may be able to prosper in a canadian sense.
Well what do you expect when you hire an ad agency whose sole claim to fame is to get people talking about your brand any way they can? They (the ad agency) never did promise the attention will be a positive one, or that they could mistake your ad for someone else.
http://www.tongue.com.au/what-we-do
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Originally Posted by SDW2001
Wow. Really, Research in Motion....REALLY? You send people out with signs to "protest" at an Apple store and mock its customers? For realz?
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
And the moron who goes by the name of "Blunty" is the same moron who posted a three part review of the Blackberry Playbook. What a coincidence. Needless to say, it was a very positive and glowing review.
Just like those 1-post wonders on the forums that register to post "I'm a long time apple user with a <apple-product> and I recently got a <competitor-product> and I have to honestly say I'm floored! The amazing <competitor-product-story> blew me away! Blah blah blah" never to be heard from again.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
I thought that Samsung's recent commercials were pretty lame, but this RIM stunt just takes the cake. How utterly pathetic and totally desperate. Actually sending a mob to picket in front of a store? This is lower than low.
I think it's a cry for help
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Ah, they're going to try to convince Australians that "going bankrupt, being quickly abandoned, and existing without purpose, drive, or vision" now 'means' "being in business".
Irony upon irony eh? I bet RIM shareholders wish the management at RIM had woken up about five years ago!
Apple][ said:
"I thought that Samsung's recent commercials were pretty lame, but this RIM stunt just takes the cake. How utterly pathetic and totally desperate. Actually sending a mob to picket in front of a store? This is lower than low."
That's exactly my thoughts on Obama and his union cronies when they sent their minions to the "occupy wall street" mob.
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
Irony upon irony eh? I bet RIM shareholders wish the management at RIM had woken up about five years ago!
Research in slow motion apparently.
?
Yes, I can see the advertising now.
WAKE UP AND LOOK AT MY RIM.
Oh the irony of RIM using a "Wake Up" ad campaign!
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Originally Posted by Joelhk
Isn't Samsung the world's number one phone maker now?
Boy, you use the term "world's number one phone maker" very broadly -- that has implications that they provide the best phone out there. Possibly what you meant to say was that Samsung shipped the most phones -- wrong again, that would still be our friendly norskies Nokia I believe.
I think a bit of research and rereading is required before you next post.
ROTFL!
I think they protesters missed the mark. They should have been doing this at RIM HQ -- if anyone has been caught asleep at the wheel its RIM.
Relying on all the Media publications and attention to announce their best products released so far has not worked to have public take them seriously. This may be their last resort to save them from BB Bankruptcy.
To paraphrase Leon Kowalski (Brion James, "Blade Runner," 1982):
"Wake up, RIM. Time to die."
It was a marketing stunt and everyone on this board, and most tech media, fell for it. I'd say it worked as planned.
To those who said Samsung was lying. Eat your own words.
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Originally Posted by Phone-UI-Guy
"Samsung Electronics Australia has nothing to do with the Wake-Up Campaign," the company said in a statement.
However, Samsung Electronics South Korea does....
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Samsung is obviously lying though. Other than Microsoft who else would it be but Samsung?
Microsoft usually owns up to this kind of stuff when they do it. Ergo: It's Samsung and they are just lying.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xian Zhu Xuande
"Samsung Electronics Australia has nothing to do with..."
I'm suspicious of that (and the specificity of that statement). This seems quite like their recent advertising campaign, but it takes some balls to come out and say you had nothing to do with it when there's a good chance it will be traced back to you if you did. Some kind of entity was behind this. Quite coordinated. Some money changed hands.
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Originally Posted by Santoanderson
Samsung: "It wasn't us. We swear!"
Everbody else: "{COUGHS}Bullsh*t!{COUGHS}"
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Originally Posted by FreeRange
What total bullshit! Samsung was absolutely behind it. And why is the ignorant press calling this a "flash mob". It WAS NOT A FLASH MOB. It was a publicity stunt with paid "actors" and has nothing to do with a flash mob so please quit showing your ignorance.
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Originally Posted by benanderson89
I can't help but think Samsung is behind every second of this. I've seen the products in person standing side by side with the Apple counterparts and it has always been an exact duplicate in more than one area. Their latest laptop, that is identical to a matte screen macbook pro in every way (apart from having a numerical pad) is so obviously a copy its painful. I have products from loads of different vendors and I'm happy with all of them but I refuse to buy from Samsung. They are the only company I know of who's antics would not be out of place in a 90s action film - you know, the evil mega-corporation who's evil and has a CEO who laughs like a panto-villian! MUWAHAHAHA!
Hot Dog is an American phrase coined at a baseball game
lol
I bet none of these folks would be posting on this thread.
laughing at all the sheep who called Samsung liars after Samsung denied responsibility.
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Originally Posted by dualie
It was a marketing stunt and everyone on this board, and most tech media, fell for it. I'd say it worked as planned.
I'm not sure I follow that logic. It seems most people thought it was at best dumb and at worst insulting to potential customers. Everyone assumed it was Samsung, and nobody ended up talking about RIM. That cannot have been the plan, right?
Every now and then you see a dying man who decides to be an asshat right before the end. Kind of spoils the melancholy of his passing. But whatever.
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Originally Posted by mavfan1
laughing at all the sheep who called Samsung liars after Samsung denied responsibility.
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Originally Posted by Galbi
To those who said Samsung was lying. Eat your own words.
I wasn't one of them, but I'll say "so what?"
The fact is that it was lame attempt to get attention that didn't work. Maybe they should have spent the money having a fake funeral, instead.
Or waited a year or two and had a real one for RIM.