To be honest, I don't care how many people die, as long as I get my Apple devices. Suicides are a completely natural thing and suicide statistics that are below most national averages are a wonderful thing, they should be celebrated.
So, to address your first point about suicides, who gives a shit, really? Yawn. You should go hold a demonstration somewhere, do something useful instead of trolling an Apple forum. Maybe the proven liar, Mike Daisey can have you as a guest on his show sometime.
And to address your second point, Apple sues because other talentless and no innovation companies constantly copies Apple's trendsetting and industry leading designs. Only a moron wouldn't sue somebody else who was ripping off their products.
Nice try at lying, but I can attest to your effort. The South Koreans built up their technical expertise via education. The Chinese on the other hand are the #1 copier of the world and will continue to do so at the expense of American and European consumers.
Gou's comment only stirs up madness among the Chinese to compete with Korean expertise, and I'm sure this is mainly due to Chinese firms losing contract over product development that require precise construction (like LNG containers and oil platforms). The fact is that Sharp TV's have been manufactured in China, and by any measure are inferior in quality says a lot about the CEO's dreams.
Is that what the kids are calling it these days? "Resizing the widgets"? Sounds sort of demeaning. I'd at least want to be associated with a dongle instead of a widget.
My mom caught me "resizing my widget " and told me I would go blind if I didn't stop. So instead I had my girlfriend "resize my widget" for me, she did it so often she went blind...go figure
I think it goes beyond "Google has yet to unveil the OS". Your second paragraph is the more important one. Even if Google had laid out the entire OS in all it's glory, it would be meaningless to anyone using an existing Android phone. My daughter's Motorola Flipside just failed. Since it was covered with AT&T's warranty program, they sent her a Pantech P8000. Even though it was just shipped this week, it came with Android 2.2. Pantech's site says that you can upgrade to 2.3. Similarly, my ex bought a new phone last week. It was the latest Android phone from Straight Talk - and came with Android 2.3 and no upgrade is available
Low end phones are not updated that much or ever. Also in the USA the carriers have the final say in an update. Not the manufacturer. The next month and a half before the close of July you will see scores of android phones updated to version 4.0.X. And if you think that google is going to stop progress on the OS because carriers and OEMS can't get their sh!t together you are wrong. As of now my phone runs the latest version of android if a new version is announced next week I will have it next week. My phone does get updated. NEXUS
Man, it sure hasn't taken long for the memory of Jobs' legendary love of secrecy to fade...... Time was the comments on an article like this, regarding a manufacturing supplier shooting off his mouth about upcoming Apple products, would have mostly been taking bets on how long it would take Apple to have Gou fired, or killed, or fired then killed. We could have been pretty sure that at the very least Gou would get a very, very unpleasant visit from Steve, and we would start to hear rumors of some kind of massive shift in Apple's manufacturing plans.
While Jobs' mercurial passions were sometimes counterproductive (as when he would abruptly switch up components based on nothing more than a manufacturing partner being a bit too chatty) it at least kept the lid on stupid shit like bragging about an unreleased product (which by the way for people wondering if this is a deliberate Apple ploy to use Gou as a mouthpiece-- you do know we're talking about Apple here, right?). Hopefully the Cook era isn't going to just turn a blind eye to this kind of stuff, because part of the Apple mystique is not doing this-- not indulging in bullshit chest-beating, not making claims for unreleased products, not indulging in Samsung level "ha ha we own you" nonsense.
Low end phones are not updated that much or ever. Also in the USA the carriers have the final say in an update. Not the manufacturer. The next month and a half before the close of July you will see scores of android phones updated to version 4.0.X. And if you think that google is going to stop progress on the OS because carriers and OEMS can't get their sh!t together you are wrong. As of now my phone runs the latest version of android if a new version is announced next week I will have it next week. My phone does get updated. NEXUS
That's nonsense.
Note that Apple has had no problem updating the OS on iPads and iPhones. if it's the carrier's responsibility, why has Apple been able to do so consistently yet virtually none of the Android phones have had significant upgrades?
As for the rest, we'll see about 'scores of Android phones updated to 4.0.x'. Want to bet? Granted, new phones will come out with 4.0, but chances are that very, very few existing phones will ever see an upgrade - if history is any indication. What evidence do you have otherwise? The fact is that the overwhelming majority of Android phones are still on 2.2 and 2.3. If they never got upgraded to 3.0, what makes you so certain that they'll be upgraded to 4.0?
Low end phones are not updated that much or ever. Also in the USA the carriers have the final say in an update. Not the manufacturer. The next month and a half before the close of July you will see scores of android phones updated to version 4.0.X. And if you think that google is going to stop progress on the OS because carriers and OEMS can't get their sh!t together you are wrong. As of now my phone runs the latest version of android if a new version is announced next week I will have it next week. My phone does get updated. NEXUS
There is no sense in comparing iOS 6 with 5.0 Jelly Bean based on rumors. There is no preview of Jelly Bean available. Google has yet to unveil the OS.
According to blurbs at other sites I don't believe "Jelly Bean" is a generational update, so don't expect Android 5.x. It should be simply an incremental update, thus 4.1x
The next month and a half before the close of July you will see scores of android phones updated to version 4.0.X.
That's even more ludicrous than Eric Schmidt's comment: "by the summer of 2012 [...] the majority of the televisions that you see in the television stores here will have Google TV embedded in it."
According to blurbs at other sites I don't believe "Jelly Bean" is a generational update, so don't expect Android 5.x. It should be simply an incremental update, thus 4.1x
I don't expect it to be but from a marketing standpoint. With ICS and JB both being on 4 Google can better advertise that x% are using Android 4.x.
Originally Posted by jragosta The fact is that the overwhelming majority of Android phones are still on 2.2 and 2.3. If they never got upgraded to 3.0, what makes you so certain that they'll be upgraded to 4.0?
NO Android phones were officially upgraded to 3.0 AFAIK, because that version was never intended for phones in the first place. It was tablet specific according to Google.
3.x updates would have no bearing at all on whether an Android handset gets updated to 4.x versions.
Its quotes like this that make me realize how many people base their opinions of something based on unproven blog post. Android supports more then Chinese, English and Spanish. This post is so full of BS it is hard to read.
This is what you sound like
The next version of iOS will have
Pull down notifications (In android since 1.5)
Voice control/actions (in android since 2.2)
MMS support (In android since 1.5)
Copy and paste (in android since 2.x)
New lock screen
sounds like I have never picked up aniDevice and now I am talking out my A$$
Actualy copy/paste and basic voice control on Android - since v1. This is a more complete list:
Actualy copy/paste and basic voice control on Android - since v1. This is a more complete list:
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Because having some form of a feature not matter how poorly implemented is more important than a well thought out implementation so long as you can claim "First!" Well done¡
Because having some form of a feature not matter how poorly implemented is more important than a well thought out implementation so long as you can claim "First!" Well done¡
I agree. iPhone multitasking is still limited. iPhone voice control is limited as well: the current iPhone is still not capable voice-launching an app or voice-tweeting (available on the Galaxy).
Andoid 1.0 copy/paste feature was adequate for its time: copying phone numbers, addresses, URLs worked like a charm:
...while iPhone users did not have any copy/paste.
I agree. iPhone multitasking is still limited. iPhone voice control is limited as well: the current iPhone is still not capable voice-launching an app or voice-tweeting (available on the Galaxy).
Andoid 1.0 copy/paste feature was adequate for its time: copying phone numbers, addresses, URLs worked like a charm:
...while iPhone users did not have any copy/paste.
Personally I prefer the iPhone voice control and find it works better than my Android phone but you are correct on your points i.e. launching app etc.
I agree. iPhone multitasking is still limited. iPhone voice control is limited as well: the current iPhone is still not capable voice-launching an app or voice-tweeting (available on the Galaxy).
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
To be honest, I don't care how many people die, as long as I get my Apple devices. Suicides are a completely natural thing and suicide statistics that are below most national averages are a wonderful thing, they should be celebrated.
So, to address your first point about suicides, who gives a shit, really? Yawn. You should go hold a demonstration somewhere, do something useful instead of trolling an Apple forum. Maybe the proven liar, Mike Daisey can have you as a guest on his show sometime.
And to address your second point, Apple sues because other talentless and no innovation companies constantly copies Apple's trendsetting and industry leading designs. Only a moron wouldn't sue somebody else who was ripping off their products.
I wish you would jump off a roof.
Nice try at lying, but I can attest to your effort. The South Koreans built up their technical expertise via education. The Chinese on the other hand are the #1 copier of the world and will continue to do so at the expense of American and European consumers.
Gou's comment only stirs up madness among the Chinese to compete with Korean expertise, and I'm sure this is mainly due to Chinese firms losing contract over product development that require precise construction (like LNG containers and oil platforms). The fact is that Sharp TV's have been manufactured in China, and by any measure are inferior in quality says a lot about the CEO's dreams.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Is that what the kids are calling it these days? "Resizing the widgets"? Sounds sort of demeaning. I'd at least want to be associated with a dongle instead of a widget.
My mom caught me "resizing my widget " and told me I would go blind if I didn't stop. So instead I had my girlfriend "resize my widget" for me, she did it so often she went blind...go figure
Quote:
Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
Nothing like a little casual racism to tell us who the enemy is.
It's xenophobia mate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jragosta
I think it goes beyond "Google has yet to unveil the OS". Your second paragraph is the more important one. Even if Google had laid out the entire OS in all it's glory, it would be meaningless to anyone using an existing Android phone. My daughter's Motorola Flipside just failed. Since it was covered with AT&T's warranty program, they sent her a Pantech P8000. Even though it was just shipped this week, it came with Android 2.2. Pantech's site says that you can upgrade to 2.3. Similarly, my ex bought a new phone last week. It was the latest Android phone from Straight Talk - and came with Android 2.3 and no upgrade is available
Low end phones are not updated that much or ever. Also in the USA the carriers have the final say in an update. Not the manufacturer. The next month and a half before the close of July you will see scores of android phones updated to version 4.0.X. And if you think that google is going to stop progress on the OS because carriers and OEMS can't get their sh!t together you are wrong. As of now my phone runs the latest version of android if a new version is announced next week I will have it next week. My phone does get updated. NEXUS
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK
I wish you would jump off a roof.
Ladies first. I am a gentleman.
J.
It sounds like Terry Gou is a formidable ally for Apple.
J.
Man, it sure hasn't taken long for the memory of Jobs' legendary love of secrecy to fade...... Time was the comments on an article like this, regarding a manufacturing supplier shooting off his mouth about upcoming Apple products, would have mostly been taking bets on how long it would take Apple to have Gou fired, or killed, or fired then killed. We could have been pretty sure that at the very least Gou would get a very, very unpleasant visit from Steve, and we would start to hear rumors of some kind of massive shift in Apple's manufacturing plans.
While Jobs' mercurial passions were sometimes counterproductive (as when he would abruptly switch up components based on nothing more than a manufacturing partner being a bit too chatty) it at least kept the lid on stupid shit like bragging about an unreleased product (which by the way for people wondering if this is a deliberate Apple ploy to use Gou as a mouthpiece-- you do know we're talking about Apple here, right?). Hopefully the Cook era isn't going to just turn a blind eye to this kind of stuff, because part of the Apple mystique is not doing this-- not indulging in bullshit chest-beating, not making claims for unreleased products, not indulging in Samsung level "ha ha we own you" nonsense.
That's nonsense.
Note that Apple has had no problem updating the OS on iPads and iPhones. if it's the carrier's responsibility, why has Apple been able to do so consistently yet virtually none of the Android phones have had significant upgrades?
As for the rest, we'll see about 'scores of Android phones updated to 4.0.x'. Want to bet? Granted, new phones will come out with 4.0, but chances are that very, very few existing phones will ever see an upgrade - if history is any indication. What evidence do you have otherwise? The fact is that the overwhelming majority of Android phones are still on 2.2 and 2.3. If they never got upgraded to 3.0, what makes you so certain that they'll be upgraded to 4.0?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apple v. Samsung
Low end phones are not updated that much or ever. Also in the USA the carriers have the final say in an update. Not the manufacturer. The next month and a half before the close of July you will see scores of android phones updated to version 4.0.X. And if you think that google is going to stop progress on the OS because carriers and OEMS can't get their sh!t together you are wrong. As of now my phone runs the latest version of android if a new version is announced next week I will have it next week. My phone does get updated. NEXUS
Your scenario sounds........ unlikely.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hari5
There is no sense in comparing iOS 6 with 5.0 Jelly Bean based on rumors. There is no preview of Jelly Bean available. Google has yet to unveil the OS.
According to blurbs at other sites I don't believe "Jelly Bean" is a generational update, so don't expect Android 5.x. It should be simply an incremental update, thus 4.1x
I don't expect it to be but from a marketing standpoint. With ICS and JB both being on 4 Google can better advertise that x% are using Android 4.x.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jragosta
NO Android phones were officially upgraded to 3.0 AFAIK, because that version was never intended for phones in the first place. It was tablet specific according to Google.
3.x updates would have no bearing at all on whether an Android handset gets updated to 4.x versions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apple v. Samsung
Its quotes like this that make me realize how many people base their opinions of something based on unproven blog post. Android supports more then Chinese, English and Spanish. This post is so full of BS it is hard to read.
This is what you sound like
The next version of iOS will have
Pull down notifications (In android since 1.5)
Voice control/actions (in android since 2.2)
MMS support (In android since 1.5)
Copy and paste (in android since 2.x)
New lock screen
sounds like I have never picked up an iDevice and now I am talking out my A$$
Actualy copy/paste and basic voice control on Android - since v1. This is a more complete list:
Android
iOS
Resolution-Independent UI
2007 beta
0
Folders
2007 beta
6-2010 v4
Copy/paste
2007 beta
6-2009 v3
Basic voice control
9-2008 v.1.0
6-2009 v3
Multi-lingual speech synthesis
9-2009 v.1.9
10-2011 v.5
MMS
9-2008 v.1.0
6-2009 v3
Multitasking basic
9-2008 v.1.0
6-2010 v4
Multitasking w/background processes
9-2009 v.1.9
0
Widgets
5-2009 v.1.5
10-2011 v.5
Wireless system updates
5-2009 v.1.5
10-2011 v.5
3rd-party virtual keyboards
5-2009 v.1.5
0
USB storage
5-2009 v.1.5
0
Guided turn-by-turn navigation
5-2010 v.2.2
10-2012 v.6
Personal hotspot
5-2010 v.2.2
3-2011 v.4.3
Cloud Sync
5-2010 v.2.2
10-2011 v.5
NFC
12-2010 v.23
0
Wi-Fi Direct
10-2011 v.4
0
Face unlock
10-2011 v.4
0
Notification Center
9-2008 v.1.0
10-2011 v.5
Because having some form of a feature not matter how poorly implemented is more important than a well thought out implementation so long as you can claim "First!" Well done¡
Quote:
Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
Nothing like a little casual racism to tell us who the enemy is.
That's not racism, it is nationalism. Koh and the Koreans are both of oriental descent.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Because having some form of a feature not matter how poorly implemented is more important than a well thought out implementation so long as you can claim "First!" Well done¡
I agree. iPhone multitasking is still limited. iPhone voice control is limited as well: the current iPhone is still not capable voice-launching an app or voice-tweeting (available on the Galaxy).
Andoid 1.0 copy/paste feature was adequate for its time: copying phone numbers, addresses, URLs worked like a charm:
...while iPhone users did not have any copy/paste.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mercury99
I agree. iPhone multitasking is still limited. iPhone voice control is limited as well: the current iPhone is still not capable voice-launching an app or voice-tweeting (available on the Galaxy).
Andoid 1.0 copy/paste feature was adequate for its time: copying phone numbers, addresses, URLs worked like a charm:
...while iPhone users did not have any copy/paste.
Personally I prefer the iPhone voice control and find it works better than my Android phone but you are correct on your points i.e. launching app etc.
That was sarcasm. Also, iOS 6 fixes that.