Jury likely to decide Apple and Samsung case as parties fail to narrow dispute

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  • Reply 121 of 179
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by diplication View Post

    Also, I have never considered an iPhone as being a candy bar style phone, if I remember correctly, before the iPhone, such a style was more commonly called a pocket pc style or PDA style.


     


    What about the LG Chocolate? That's when I first remember hearing about the 'candy bar' format referred to as such.

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  • Reply 122 of 179
    mstone wrote: »
    Of course you are technically correct however I believe it is worth mentioning that many immigrants to this country live in tight knit communities for many generations.... Obviously there is a similar situation with Mexican Americans.
    Similar yet different, there are many places in the southwest where Spanish was spoken many years before any English speakers arrived. These places are usually identified by the Spanish language place names. In these places Engish speakers would be the immigrants living in tight knit communities for many generations.
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  • Reply 123 of 179
    See, this is how you get out of jury duty. Just say you're prejudiced against all races.
    Or you can say you always do what the voices in your head tell you to do.
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  • Reply 124 of 179
    jragosta wrote: »
    Just curious - how do you manage to survive in junior high without getting beat to a pulp for being a loud-mouthed, obnoxious bigot?
    He'll have to tell you next year when he starts high school.
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  • Reply 125 of 179
    What about the LG Chocolate? That's when I first remember hearing about the 'candy bar' format referred to as such.
    Stop candy-coating the issue.
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  • Reply 126 of 179

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    Originally Posted by muppetry View Post





    I'm not sure that he is necessarily a bigot if he is asserting that all cultures behave this way. Delusional, certainly. Projecting, maybe.


     


    By the dictionary definition, it is racism, not bigotry. Asserting that Lucy Koh cannot be a fair and impartial judge because of her ethnicity is a prejudicial remark. You'd think that was enough to warrant a ban.

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  • Reply 127 of 179
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

    You'd think that was enough to warrant a ban.


     


    It's infraction-worthy, certainly. If you see racism, please do report it as inappropriate.

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  • Reply 128 of 179

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    Originally Posted by diplication View Post





    I love it when someone starts a post like this. It's the equivalent of saying, "I'm not lying, but..."


    Exactly! LOL.


     


    My other favorites:


    "The check is the mail....."


    "It's not about the money...."


    "I am sorry you feel that way....."

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  • Reply 129 of 179
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member

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    Originally Posted by Ewan View Post


    Judge Koh is and will forever be in favour of Samsung because it is from her native land, if you don't want to believe it then that's your problem.



     


    Her native land is the U.S.


    Samsung is based in Korea.

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  • Reply 130 of 179
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
    muppetry wrote: »
    I'm not sure that he is necessarily a bigot if he is asserting that all cultures behave this way. Delusional, certainly. Projecting, maybe.

    By the dictionary definition, it is racism, not bigotry. Asserting that Lucy Koh cannot be a fair and impartial judge because of her ethnicity is a prejudicial remark. You'd think that was enough to warrant a ban.

    Well the whole thesis was strange - he started by saying how much he wanted Apple to lose. Then he went on to complain that Judge Koh seemed to be biased against Apple, when all the other posters of that persuasion have been complaining that she is biased against Samsung. Then he claimed that all cultures are racist, so she must be too. Then his mum sent him to bed - maybe we'll find out tomorrow if he doesn't get himself banned before then.
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  • Reply 131 of 179
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

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    Originally Posted by diplication View Post





    Similar yet different, there are many places in the southwest where Spanish was spoken many years before any English speakers arrived. These places are usually identified by the Spanish language place names. In these places Engish speakers would be the immigrants living in tight knit communities for many generations.


    That is a nice story however it ignores the actual history. The Spanish missions were built from the late 1760s through around 1830 at which time only the Spanish missionaries spoke Spanish and gave places their names. The native population did not speak Spanish but rather indigenous languages. The immigration of Spanish speaking immigrants from Mexico did not start until after 1910 due to the turmoil of the Mexican revolution. At that time California was already a state and the indigenous population had been given ownership of territories. Before that time there were only a few areas of the southwest that were very sparely populated by Spanish speakers. That early 1900s immigration can not compare to the influx of Spanish speaking immigrants into the US in more recent times, For example the Spanish speaking population in the US has doubled since 1990. It is these immigrants to which I referred as being gathered together into segregated communities and not integrating.

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  • Reply 132 of 179

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    Originally Posted by Ewan View Post


     


    I'm the ignorant one? You are calling her American when she is clearly of Korean-American. I know you are a racist and would love to strip everyone of their culture and race for your own personal hatred. Don't assume if you don't know, and don't talk if you don't know.



    You are a racist bitch. 

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  • Reply 133 of 179

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    Originally Posted by muppetry View Post





    Well the whole thesis was strange - he started by saying how much he wanted Apple to lose. Then he went on to complain that Judge Koh seemed to be biased against Apple, when all the other posters of that persuasion have been complaining that she is biased against Samsung. Then he claimed that all cultures are racist, so she must be too. Then his mum sent him to bed - maybe we'll find out tomorrow if he doesn't get himself banned before then.


     


    I flagged it. The person insisted Koh wasn't an "American," but had to called "Korean-American" because of her ethnic background. I find labeling people that way distasteful. It is used to remind people that they aren't "real Americans" and could never be just "Americans," because of their appearance.

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  • Reply 134 of 179
    I flagged it. The person insisted Koh wasn't an "American," but had to called "Korean-American" because of her ethnic background. I find labeling people that way distasteful. It is used to remind people that they aren't "real Americans" and could never be just "Americans," because of their appearance.

    Here, here
    If you are born here you are American. If you emigrated here and became a citizen then you are blank/American.

    It should be up to the person how they choose to honor and integrate their ethnic heritage.
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  • Reply 135 of 179
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
    muppetry wrote: »
    Well the whole thesis was strange - he started by saying how much he wanted Apple to lose. Then he went on to complain that Judge Koh seemed to be biased against Apple, when all the other posters of that persuasion have been complaining that she is biased against Samsung. Then he claimed that all cultures are racist, so she must be too. Then his mum sent him to bed - maybe we'll find out tomorrow if he doesn't get himself banned before then.

    I flagged it. The person insisted Koh wasn't an "American," but had to called "Korean-American" because of her ethnic background. I find labeling people that way distasteful. It is used to remind people that they aren't "real Americans" and could never be just "Americans," because of their appearance.

    I noticed also, from his spelling, that he is not American - or at least wasn't educated in the US.
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  • Reply 136 of 179
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    By the dictionary definition, it is racism, not bigotry. Asserting that Lucy Koh cannot be a fair and impartial judge because of her ethnicity is a prejudicial remark. You'd think that was enough to warrant a ban.

    Technically, it's not racism because "Korean" isn't a race. It's more akin to bigotry.
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  • Reply 137 of 179
    hmmhmm Posts: 3,405member

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    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


     


    I flagged it. The person insisted Koh wasn't an "American," but had to called "Korean-American" because of her ethnic background. I find labeling people that way distasteful. It is used to remind people that they aren't "real Americans" and could never be just "Americans," because of their appearance.





    It's silly either way. We don't add prefixes based on ancestral roots, but I'd still say he's trolling all of you. I think the guy just wanted a reaction, as I don't believe he's that dim.

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  • Reply 138 of 179
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    mstone wrote: »
    Except when they start shooting, stabbing and beating each other. My sports team reference was probably irrelevant.

    I liked your clip though

    That happens a lot more than you'd think especially overseas.
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  • Reply 139 of 179
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member

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    Originally Posted by dmarcoot View Post


    I don't envy this jury. I have my own thoughts and opinions from having followed Apples innovation for the iPhone closely for years. To have all this crammed in 2 weeks must be mind boggling. I expect the jury to be hung.



     


    I don't know about a hung jury. It's not an "all or nothing" affair. Every item must be decided separately... right?

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  • Reply 140 of 179
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    What about the LG Chocolate? That's when I first remember hearing about the 'candy bar' format referred to as such.

    There were phones before the LG Chocolate that were referred to as "candy bar" form factor. The Moto SLVR was the first I'd heard but it started even before then.
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