I love the `tech gurus of the Android world' talking smack about a blah product. Quality sells out. A choice of 50 so-so and a few very large screen phones will force OEMs to rethink it all from the ground up. Google is reaping money off your advertisement relationships. They could care less if the OEMs fail. They'll quietly make sure their subsidiary, MM, starts to put out more compelling solutions.
What 'tech gurus'? You mean 'the self-important tech elite'?
I love the indignant rage at all the "trolls" that have not posted a single (not ONE) comment of the 60+ thus far in this thread. Your paranoia is so pronounced that you're still railing against imagined detractors from launches that took place years ago.
It must be easy to win arguments against... no one?
If there WERE trolls here they would have undoubtedly conceded that the iphone 5 launch would be massive, but that it's a result of "herd instinct" and not a technological "revolution."
And to some extent they would be right, although not about the "herd instinct." They would be right that there wasn't anything revolutionary about the iP5. Like others here, I am excited about it, and I pre-ordered one, but calling it "revolutionary" is pretty ridiculous. First to market Cortex-A15, new but similar look, slightly bigger screen, slightly lighter/thinner, slightly better battery life, reversible dock connector.... every single one of the new features is evolutionary. The fact that there are a lot of them makes it worth buying, but that has nothing to do with "revolutionizing" mobile phones.
Thanks for ruining it for everyone because it is a pretty exciting product, until you make it into an emblem for a corporate self-identity.
You're jumping to conclusions awfully fast. I seem to recall that Apple didn't give a number immediately after the day-one pre-orders were set but did so a day later (or days later if there was a weekend in the way).
Of anything to squint your eyes over suggesting Apple isn't shady about the sales numbers it offers is not one of them. Would you also question the 600 million headphones shipped, too?
New iPhone is announced.
Haters gonna to hate.
Pre-orders sold out.
Haters claim only a small number of units were available.
Customers camp out for days and lines go around the block.
Haters claim Apple is paying people to camp and restricting supply.
Apple announces all-time record for sales for any consumer electronic product.
Haters claim it's all due to Apple marketing.
Apple announces record sales for following quarter, and quarter after that.
Haters claim only fanboys buy iPhones.
Rumors spread that new iPhone is about to be announced any day.
Haters claim iPhone has failed because sales have dropped (preceding announcement).
Repeat...
This is likely why Apple doesn't publish their sales numbers.
Who would buy a smartphone without:
1.5 GHz dual-core Krait
2 GB RAM
Super AMOLED HD Plus PenTile display
microSDXC
MHL-HDMI Micro-USB On-The-Go (No Android-based smartphone vendor would ever make a proprietary connector like a MHL-HDMI adapter)
Replaceable Battery
NFC
A company needs at least 160 models to be successful. No company could possibly garner 18.8% of the worldwide smartphone market without hundreds of models. Three models just isn't sufficient to be competitive. Mark my words, iPhone 5 will be the last smartphone ever produced by Apple. Actually, Apple never produced smartphones. Who would call the Apple iPhone a smartphone without all those must have features. No one would possibly buy that.
Geez.
All you Apple sheep act as though Apple can do no wrong. From reading the comments, one would think that:
Apple offers the most secure commercial operating systems
Who would want a elegant, reliable, secure smartphone with a highly responsive and intuitive user interface. Who wants a static user interface that never changes. My Android-based smartphone constantly changes, so much so that sometimes I need 3 minutes to find an app I just used. The constantly changing user interface dramatically improves the battery as well since I change batteries every two hours. You Apple sheep are all fools.
Baaa
...but how many have they "shipped", isn't that the real measure of "smooth" success?
The theories of "they sold out so quickly because they didn't have very many in stock" make no sense. Apple generally reports how many they sold over launch weekend, and they wouldn't release a "we're blown away" announcement if they didn't sell a ton.
Bullshit. People come up with this all the time. Apple is in a hurry. iPhone Sales continously were decreasing in the past month due to people waited for the iPhone 5. The Financial Quarter ends September so they must sell each unit they have in Order to meet the goals the market will expect from them.
Apple will release a sneak peek next week and I would estimate 7 million units sold in 3-5 days
Dude... the quote you are angry about was sarcasm. That's what the "/s" at the end meant. He is on the same side as you but you are not seeing it. Time to switch to decaf.
New iPhone is announced.
Haters gonna to hate.
Pre-orders sold out.
Haters claim only a small number of units were available.
Customers camp out for days and lines go around the block.
Haters claim Apple is paying people to camp and restricting supply.
Apple announces all-time record for sales for any consumer electronic product.
Haters claim it's all due to Apple marketing.
Apple announces record sales for following quarter, and quarter after that.
Haters claim only fanboys buy iPhones.
Rumors spread that new iPhone is about to be announced any day.
Haters claim iPhone has failed because sales have dropped (preceding announcement).
Repeat...
My favorite bits are how the original iPhone was such a outright failure for them, yet even in its 6h generation competitors still haven't mastered what Apple did in it's first go. Sure, there are plenty of things that make the original iPhone woefully outdated, like all the performance aspects of it, but that's what Apple had to deal with and they did it swimmingly.
We still have Android phones with laggy UIs despite being many, many times faster. We still have Android phones that look and feel cheap, aren't enjoyable to use, and therefore have little to no resale value as they age.
Worst of all is the update cycle. I think 3 generations is plenty for a phone's primary frameworks and underpinnings but this year they are going 4 generations.
Perhaps the most humorous are the people that are so upset because the iPhone isn't radically different YoY. I honestly don't think they comprehend just how well Apple understand the customer, understand the technology, understood their strengths to make something so incredibly perfect from day one that all they've had to do since is refine and polish their initial concept.
I'd think by now they'd realize that Apple didn't stumble onto their success. Apple didn't accidentally have a successful product. I suppose if you don't have a modicum of understanding of how these products are made you might like at the whole product and claim it's a fluke, but when they do it year after year, across product after product, you wonder why they are still saying the things they say.
I love the Apple Fanbois indignant rage at all the "trolls" that have not posted a single (not ONE) comment of the 60+ thus far in this thread. Your paranoia is so pronounced that you're still railing against imagined detractors from launches that took place years ago.
It must be easy to win arguments against... no one?
If there WERE trolls here they would have undoubtedly conceded that the iphone 5 launch would be massive, but that it's a result of "herd instinct" and not a technological "revolution."
And to some extent they would be right, although not about the "herd instinct." They would be right that there wasn't anything revolutionary about the iP5. Like others here, I am excited about it, and I pre-ordered one, but calling it "revolutionary" is pretty ridiculous. First to market Cortex-A15, new but similar look, slightly bigger screen, slightly lighter/thinner, slightly better battery life, reversible dock connector.... every single one of the new features is evolutionary. The fact that there are a lot of them makes it worth buying, but that has nothing to do with "revolutionizing" mobile phones.
You people are obviously drunk AND stupid. Just one couldn't explain this phenomena. And the reason everyone bashes Apple users is no doubt a result of your rabid idiocy.
Thanks for ruining it for everyone, ya jerks, because it is a pretty exciting product, until you make it into an emblem for your pathetic corporate self-identifying.
That's really too bad - I can't believe how cruel people can be. Whoever ruined this great event for you by forcing you to sit and read all those frightful comments should be ashamed of themselves. I do hope it doesn't scar you for life.
That's really too bad - I can't believe how cruel people can be. Whoever ruined this great event for you by forcing you to sit and read all those frightful comments should be ashamed of themselves. I do hope it doesn't scar you for life.
It's about making it an embarrassment to be an Apple user. There's always Linux, I suppose. Android I'm not so sure about, however. Their little "tribalists" are just as vulgar.
That said, I am happy with the product and not going to dodge the association on account of you sordid lot.
It's like the little league dads that get wasted at games and act like douche bags. You don't quit the game because of a few morons, but you certainly wish they weren't there.
That's really too bad - I can't believe how cruel people can be. Whoever ruined this great event for you by forcing you to sit and read all those frightful comments should be ashamed of themselves. I do hope it doesn't scar you for life.
It's about making it an embarrassment to be an Apple user. There's always Linux, I suppose. Android I'm not so sure about, however. Their little "tribalists" are just as vulgar.
That said, I am happy with the product and not going to dodge the association on account of you sordid lot.
It's like the little league dads that gets wasted at games and act like douche bags. You don't quit the game because of a few morons, but you certainly wish they weren't there.
OK - seriously - why are you hanging out here reading threads that annoy and embarrass you so much? Is there something you are not telling us?
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer
I love the `tech gurus of the Android world' talking smack about a blah product. Quality sells out. A choice of 50 so-so and a few very large screen phones will force OEMs to rethink it all from the ground up. Google is reaping money off your advertisement relationships. They could care less if the OEMs fail. They'll quietly make sure their subsidiary, MM, starts to put out more compelling solutions.
What 'tech gurus'? You mean 'the self-important tech elite'?
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
Yeah, but you need to be careful entering complete markup tags into a site that includes its own markup tags... so, the /s shorthand.
And the markup behavior changes almost daily!
More like Trollandia
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Good luck getting a prepaid contract, I guess you meant paid for 2 years in advance. I'd chip in to get Tallest a new iPhone.
Probably because by the time they quote a number it's grown exponentially. Better to wait for the demand to level out first.
It must be easy to win arguments against... no one?
If there WERE trolls here they would have undoubtedly conceded that the iphone 5 launch would be massive, but that it's a result of "herd instinct" and not a technological "revolution."
And to some extent they would be right, although not about the "herd instinct." They would be right that there wasn't anything revolutionary about the iP5. Like others here, I am excited about it, and I pre-ordered one, but calling it "revolutionary" is pretty ridiculous. First to market Cortex-A15, new but similar look, slightly bigger screen, slightly lighter/thinner, slightly better battery life, reversible dock connector.... every single one of the new features is evolutionary. The fact that there are a lot of them makes it worth buying, but that has nothing to do with "revolutionizing" mobile phones.
Thanks for ruining it for everyone because it is a pretty exciting product, until you make it into an emblem for a corporate self-identity.
You're jumping to conclusions awfully fast. I seem to recall that Apple didn't give a number immediately after the day-one pre-orders were set but did so a day later (or days later if there was a weekend in the way).
Of anything to squint your eyes over suggesting Apple isn't shady about the sales numbers it offers is not one of them. Would you also question the 600 million headphones shipped, too?
Haters gonna to hate.
Pre-orders sold out.
Haters claim only a small number of units were available.
Customers camp out for days and lines go around the block.
Haters claim Apple is paying people to camp and restricting supply.
Apple announces all-time record for sales for any consumer electronic product.
Haters claim it's all due to Apple marketing.
Apple announces record sales for following quarter, and quarter after that.
Haters claim only fanboys buy iPhones.
Rumors spread that new iPhone is about to be announced any day.
Haters claim iPhone has failed because sales have dropped (preceding announcement).
Repeat...
Or quarterly and fiscal conference call.
July 2008?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
This is likely why Apple doesn't publish their sales numbers.
Who would buy a smartphone without:
1.5 GHz dual-core Krait
2 GB RAM
Super AMOLED HD Plus PenTile display
microSDXC
MHL-HDMI Micro-USB On-The-Go (No Android-based smartphone vendor would ever make a proprietary connector like a MHL-HDMI adapter)
Replaceable Battery
NFC
A company needs at least 160 models to be successful. No company could possibly garner 18.8% of the worldwide smartphone market without hundreds of models. Three models just isn't sufficient to be competitive. Mark my words, iPhone 5 will be the last smartphone ever produced by Apple. Actually, Apple never produced smartphones. Who would call the Apple iPhone a smartphone without all those must have features. No one would possibly buy that.
Geez.
All you Apple sheep act as though Apple can do no wrong. From reading the comments, one would think that:
Apple has the highest customer retention
Apple has the highest customer satisfaction amongst smartphone vendors
Apple has the best smartphone reliability
Apple offers the most secure commercial operating systems
Who would want a elegant, reliable, secure smartphone with a highly responsive and intuitive user interface. Who wants a static user interface that never changes. My Android-based smartphone constantly changes, so much so that sometimes I need 3 minutes to find an app I just used. The constantly changing user interface dramatically improves the battery as well since I change batteries every two hours. You Apple sheep are all fools.
Baaa
...but how many have they "shipped", isn't that the real measure of "smooth" success?
Well this quarter is almost over so next time next month but we'll probably hear some whopping sales numbers before then.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Bee
Bullshit. People come up with this all the time. Apple is in a hurry. iPhone Sales continously were decreasing in the past month due to people waited for the iPhone 5. The Financial Quarter ends September so they must sell each unit they have in Order to meet the goals the market will expect from them.
Apple will release a sneak peek next week and I would estimate 7 million units sold in 3-5 days
Dude... the quote you are angry about was sarcasm. That's what the "/s" at the end meant. He is on the same side as you but you are not seeing it. Time to switch to decaf.
My favorite bits are how the original iPhone was such a outright failure for them, yet even in its 6h generation competitors still haven't mastered what Apple did in it's first go. Sure, there are plenty of things that make the original iPhone woefully outdated, like all the performance aspects of it, but that's what Apple had to deal with and they did it swimmingly.
We still have Android phones with laggy UIs despite being many, many times faster. We still have Android phones that look and feel cheap, aren't enjoyable to use, and therefore have little to no resale value as they age.
Worst of all is the update cycle. I think 3 generations is plenty for a phone's primary frameworks and underpinnings but this year they are going 4 generations.
Perhaps the most humorous are the people that are so upset because the iPhone isn't radically different YoY. I honestly don't think they comprehend just how well Apple understand the customer, understand the technology, understood their strengths to make something so incredibly perfect from day one that all they've had to do since is refine and polish their initial concept.
I'd think by now they'd realize that Apple didn't stumble onto their success. Apple didn't accidentally have a successful product. I suppose if you don't have a modicum of understanding of how these products are made you might like at the whole product and claim it's a fluke, but when they do it year after year, across product after product, you wonder why they are still saying the things they say.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeanSolecki
I love the Apple Fanbois indignant rage at all the "trolls" that have not posted a single (not ONE) comment of the 60+ thus far in this thread. Your paranoia is so pronounced that you're still railing against imagined detractors from launches that took place years ago.
It must be easy to win arguments against... no one?
If there WERE trolls here they would have undoubtedly conceded that the iphone 5 launch would be massive, but that it's a result of "herd instinct" and not a technological "revolution."
And to some extent they would be right, although not about the "herd instinct." They would be right that there wasn't anything revolutionary about the iP5. Like others here, I am excited about it, and I pre-ordered one, but calling it "revolutionary" is pretty ridiculous. First to market Cortex-A15, new but similar look, slightly bigger screen, slightly lighter/thinner, slightly better battery life, reversible dock connector.... every single one of the new features is evolutionary. The fact that there are a lot of them makes it worth buying, but that has nothing to do with "revolutionizing" mobile phones.
You people are obviously drunk AND stupid. Just one couldn't explain this phenomena. And the reason everyone bashes Apple users is no doubt a result of your rabid idiocy.
Thanks for ruining it for everyone, ya jerks, because it is a pretty exciting product, until you make it into an emblem for your pathetic corporate self-identifying.
That's really too bad - I can't believe how cruel people can be. Whoever ruined this great event for you by forcing you to sit and read all those frightful comments should be ashamed of themselves. I do hope it doesn't scar you for life.
Who is "they?"
Quote from this thread, please.
It's about making it an embarrassment to be an Apple user. There's always Linux, I suppose. Android I'm not so sure about, however. Their little "tribalists" are just as vulgar.
That said, I am happy with the product and not going to dodge the association on account of you sordid lot.
It's like the little league dads that get wasted at games and act like douche bags. You don't quit the game because of a few morons, but you certainly wish they weren't there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeanSolecki
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetry
That's really too bad - I can't believe how cruel people can be. Whoever ruined this great event for you by forcing you to sit and read all those frightful comments should be ashamed of themselves. I do hope it doesn't scar you for life.
It's about making it an embarrassment to be an Apple user. There's always Linux, I suppose. Android I'm not so sure about, however. Their little "tribalists" are just as vulgar.
That said, I am happy with the product and not going to dodge the association on account of you sordid lot.
It's like the little league dads that gets wasted at games and act like douche bags. You don't quit the game because of a few morons, but you certainly wish they weren't there.
OK - seriously - why are you hanging out here reading threads that annoy and embarrass you so much? Is there something you are not telling us?