The iPad mini, long before anyone else, and precise 7.85" display dimensions too. Also the iPad 4 with exact details of changes that were correct. Both at the beginning of last year.
I think this rumor has some validity to it. When the iPad Mini was a rumor, people thought the same thing because of what Steve Jobs said. Now the same is happening with this rumor, people are getting hung up on what Schiller said. These guys used their words carefully.
Phil didn't say no, he didn't deny the rumors, he stated that Apple doesn't make cheap products. Cheap in this definition is not in price. The lowest priced Apple product at the moment is the iPod Shuffle, at $49. The iPod Touch is $199, and it closely resembels the iPhone in terms of usability, only difference is it doesn't have a cell radio.
The point is there is a market for a LOW COST phone, and if Apple can deliver a phone that can access the web, access facebook and twitter, and integrates with the Apple ecosystem, then the phone will be a winner. It's a stepping stone for an iPhone.
I remember when I got an iPod Touch because I couldn't afford an iPhone. I think some people in third world countries might feel the same, where maybe they can't afford an iPhone yet, but they can get the highest quality "budget" phone, the iPhone mini (or nano)
According to these sources, the casing will use plastic instead of the current aluminum-and-glass theme seen on the iPhone 5.
The publication goes further, claiming that separate rumors point to a new design in which the internal metal sub-structure is visible through the plastic enclosure, alluding to a type of "see-through" aesthetic.
I'll go to the end of absurd and call it, ``TRANSPARENT ALUMINUM.'' They'll call it their Greenpeace Model and it'll allow one to fold spacetime in the 5th dimension.
Good idea! Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but it makes sense to me. An iphone with colored plastic would be new, 'cool', and cheaper to make, while still being a quality product (iphone5 screen with iphone4 internals). Also, it would preserve (or even enhance) the elegance and premium feel of the iphone5s.
The iPad mini, long before anyone else, and precise 7.85" display dimensions too. Also the iPad 4 with exact details of changes that were correct. Both at the beginning of last year.
I'll go to the end of absurd and call it, ``TRANSPARENT ALUMINUM.'' They'll call it their Greenpeace Model and it'll allow one to fold spacetime in the 5th dimension.
Did I dream that phill Schiller came out and said apple wouldn't make a cheap iphone. They didnt make a cheap ipad. The mini is still expensive. Why is this still a story??
Because AppleInsider can't let a DigiTimes rumor go unrepeated.
Already knew a variant existed, but alas its lattice structure doesn't compare to the science fiction of Star Trek IV. Imagine the press statement talking about the ability to withstand the volumetric force per cubic centimeter akin to that in ST IV by demoing its ability on a scaled down geometry with two sumos standing on an apparatus that applies their combined line of force on the phone, without any compression issues and the phone still dialing.
Meanwhile, the WSJ complains that the screen size is too small and shortages of the material makes it a long waiting period for potential customers.
This is being done to death enough that I almost believe it.
I don't like it at all, they certainly don't need to waste millions on crap when they can just cut the price of the actually good devices they already make, but whatever.
TS, I don't think it's that easy. One thing they would not want to do is to risk lowering their margins. If you're talking about a phone for India, for example .... how could you release an existing model cheap enough to compete and not have it cannibalize other iPhone models. That would be walking a very tight line ... not sure it would be worth it. just my 2¢ worth.
BAHAHAHAHA, now that's the funniest thing i've seen in quite a while... why don't these ANALysts get that Apple doesn't do CHEAP? If you can't afford an iPhone get a Droid, it's that simple. I mean, you can get a 4 for 99 cents.. a 4s for $99... how much cheaper do they need them to be? I know your paying for it in the plan but really.
TS, I don't think it's that easy. One thing they would not want to do is to risk lowering their margins. If you're talking about a phone for India, for example .... how could you release an existing model cheap enough to compete and not have it cannibalize other iPhone models. That would be walking a very tight line ... not sure it would be worth it. just my 2¢ worth.
Also, I can't see them issuing a glass-backed phone for the hard-working masses. Too uptown, too fragile.
Polycarbonate is bullet-proof if it's thick enough.
BAHAHAHAHA, now that's the funniest thing i've seen in quite a while... why don't these ANALysts get that Apple doesn't do CHEAP? If you can't afford an iPhone get a Droid, it's that simple. I mean, you can get a 4 for 99 cents.. a 4s for $99... how much cheaper do they need them to be? I know your paying for it in the plan but really.
Do you have any sort of cognitive problem?
Do you see a 450 € 2 year old phone (4) where most people earn 500 to 1000€ per month as "cheap"?
Anyway, I don't like this idea. Apple's "problem" is related with screen size (they would sell a lot of 5 inch phones) and stupid people that think that the iphone is less powerful than most other phones because it is dual core. Basically that's it.
For this to make sense, at least to me, the introduction of this cheaper iPhone should happen this summer, alongside the introduction of the iPhone 5S. And furthermore, the introduction will introduce a new iPhone strategy for Apple whereby as they bring out their new high end model each year they drop all older models of the iPhone completely and have the cheaper iPhone available alongside it.
So at any one time you've got the 1 latest and greatest in a few storage sizes, and one latest and cheapest in one small size. This would simplify the product lineup for people, in my mind. Do you want the 5S or the cheaper model? If you want the cheaper model, here you go, it's an 8GB phone made using clear plastic so you don't even need to choose a colour. If you want the 5S you can choose from black and white and 16-64 GB. Do you want to spend as little money on an iPhone as possible and yet still get a new iPhone? Or do you want the latest and greatest?
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When has DT ever even been sometimes reliable?
The iPad mini, long before anyone else, and precise 7.85" display dimensions too. Also the iPad 4 with exact details of changes that were correct. Both at the beginning of last year.
I think this rumor has some validity to it. When the iPad Mini was a rumor, people thought the same thing because of what Steve Jobs said. Now the same is happening with this rumor, people are getting hung up on what Schiller said. These guys used their words carefully.
Phil didn't say no, he didn't deny the rumors, he stated that Apple doesn't make cheap products. Cheap in this definition is not in price. The lowest priced Apple product at the moment is the iPod Shuffle, at $49. The iPod Touch is $199, and it closely resembels the iPhone in terms of usability, only difference is it doesn't have a cell radio.
The point is there is a market for a LOW COST phone, and if Apple can deliver a phone that can access the web, access facebook and twitter, and integrates with the Apple ecosystem, then the phone will be a winner. It's a stepping stone for an iPhone.
I remember when I got an iPod Touch because I couldn't afford an iPhone. I think some people in third world countries might feel the same, where maybe they can't afford an iPhone yet, but they can get the highest quality "budget" phone, the iPhone mini (or nano)
edit: there are iPhone nano mockups [I]everywhere[/I]
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Does DT mean this?
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Introducing the iPhone Mini:
Good idea! Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but it makes sense to me. An iphone with colored plastic would be new, 'cool', and cheaper to make, while still being a quality product (iphone5 screen with iphone4 internals). Also, it would preserve (or even enhance) the elegance and premium feel of the iphone5s.
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What got me was this line:
When has DT ever even been sometimes reliable?
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The iPad mini, long before anyone else, and precise 7.85" display dimensions too. Also the iPad 4 with exact details of changes that were correct. Both at the beginning of last year.
And how many times was DT wrong?
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I'll go to the end of absurd and call it, ``TRANSPARENT ALUMINUM.'' They'll call it their Greenpeace Model and it'll allow one to fold spacetime in the 5th dimension.
http://www.ohgizmo.com/2012/05/09/did-you-know-that-transparent-aluminum-exists/
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Originally Posted by Sector7G
Did I dream that phill Schiller came out and said apple wouldn't make a cheap iphone. They didnt make a cheap ipad. The mini is still expensive. Why is this still a story??
Because AppleInsider can't let a DigiTimes rumor go unrepeated.
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http://www.ohgizmo.com/2012/05/09/did-you-know-that-transparent-aluminum-exists/
Already knew a variant existed, but alas its lattice structure doesn't compare to the science fiction of Star Trek IV. Imagine the press statement talking about the ability to withstand the volumetric force per cubic centimeter akin to that in ST IV by demoing its ability on a scaled down geometry with two sumos standing on an apparatus that applies their combined line of force on the phone, without any compression issues and the phone still dialing.
Meanwhile, the WSJ complains that the screen size is too small and shortages of the material makes it a long waiting period for potential customers.
It would allow the use of plastic for the back without saying "cheap."
Too bad DigiTimes spilled the beans on this one. They'll be working overtime at Samsung's plastic case division.
This is why Apple would source the plastic from a trusted U.S. supplier: better secrecy.
I agree, though am afraid trolls will call it "Tss sheep!"
"Eye candy for iSheep."
"Apple has just one word for you: Plastics."
and
"Apple jumps the shark."
Good ones! Keep 'em coming! Also, post them in the Rules of the Troll thread. Too funny.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
This is being done to death enough that I almost believe it.
I don't like it at all, they certainly don't need to waste millions on crap when they can just cut the price of the actually good devices they already make, but whatever.
TS, I don't think it's that easy. One thing they would not want to do is to risk lowering their margins. If you're talking about a phone for India, for example .... how could you release an existing model cheap enough to compete and not have it cannibalize other iPhone models. That would be walking a very tight line ... not sure it would be worth it. just my 2¢ worth.
BAHAHAHAHA, now that's the funniest thing i've seen in quite a while... why don't these ANALysts get that Apple doesn't do CHEAP? If you can't afford an iPhone get a Droid, it's that simple. I mean, you can get a 4 for 99 cents.. a 4s for $99... how much cheaper do they need them to be? I know your paying for it in the plan but really.
Also, I can't see them issuing a glass-backed phone for the hard-working masses. Too uptown, too fragile.
Polycarbonate is bullet-proof if it's thick enough.
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Originally Posted by ytseman3
BAHAHAHAHA, now that's the funniest thing i've seen in quite a while... why don't these ANALysts get that Apple doesn't do CHEAP? If you can't afford an iPhone get a Droid, it's that simple. I mean, you can get a 4 for 99 cents.. a 4s for $99... how much cheaper do they need them to be? I know your paying for it in the plan but really.
Do you have any sort of cognitive problem?
Do you see a 450 € 2 year old phone (4) where most people earn 500 to 1000€ per month as "cheap"?
Anyway, I don't like this idea. Apple's "problem" is related with screen size (they would sell a lot of 5 inch phones) and stupid people that think that the iphone is less powerful than most other phones because it is dual core. Basically that's it.
So at any one time you've got the 1 latest and greatest in a few storage sizes, and one latest and cheapest in one small size. This would simplify the product lineup for people, in my mind. Do you want the 5S or the cheaper model? If you want the cheaper model, here you go, it's an 8GB phone made using clear plastic so you don't even need to choose a colour. If you want the 5S you can choose from black and white and 16-64 GB. Do you want to spend as little money on an iPhone as possible and yet still get a new iPhone? Or do you want the latest and greatest?
Did you make that up? It's genius!