Rumor: Apple planning 'iPhone 5S' and new 5-inch 'iPhone 6' for 2013

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  • Reply 81 of 151
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,805member


    1920x1280 1080P resolution would be perfect. It would be a resolution that could stick around for a long while as well. Apple sort of boxed themselves into a corner with the original retina. For the current iPhone maybe switch to 720P with a 1280x720 screen and just widen it a bit. 


     


    All this concern about developers seems silly. They are coders and that is what they do all day every day, type code. They will figure it out because that is their livelihood. Not to mention that Apple already has many competing resolutions. The app developers might moan and grumble for a while but once they switch to 1080P and 720P they could stick with those two resolutions for a long while. If Apple can switch from the original Mac OS to OS X based on Unix and then a short time later switch from PPC to Intel, I think they are not that afraid about resolutions. 

  • Reply 82 of 151


    Originally Posted by asdasd View Post

    You are generally against all rumours, which is odd for a mod of a rumour site.


     


    Oh, no, I believe a few of them. I'm more into broader strokes than specific rumors. If a rumor hints to something broader, I'll get behind that.




    "Two iPhones a year" we've heard before, and it was totally wrong. Doesn't give much reason to believe it when we hear it again. 

  • Reply 83 of 151
    mj1970mj1970 Posts: 9,002member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    "Two iPhones a year" we've heard before, and it was totally wrong. Doesn't give much reason to believe it when we hear it again. 



     


    Unless Apple has finally decided/figured out how to starting splitting the product line into "bronze," "silver" and "gold." To date they've done with by retaining the older models. Maybe that will continue to work. Maybe not. Not sure I buy the larger iPhone thing. I don't get what value it brings. But something less expensive and pre-payable seems like a gap to fill. I think they actually have high-end covered well. Now maybe larger becomes the high-end and smaller the low-end. But that doesn't answer how they bring cost down to make it more accessible. And, of course, it isn't necessarily phone cost as much as plan cost that's an issue.

  • Reply 84 of 151


    Originally Posted by MJ1970 View Post

    But something less expensive and pre-payable seems like a gap to fill. I think they actually have high-end covered well. Now maybe larger becomes the high-end and smaller the low-end. But that doesn't answer how they bring cost down to make it more accessible. And, of course, it isn't necessarily phone cost as much as plan cost that's an issue.


     


    Why can't the iPhone 4 become that? Or, rather, the 4S, since we're talking about this year's lineup? In addition to it being free on contract, it could also be available off-contract for a less than it already is (instead of $450, say $299).

  • Reply 85 of 151
    mj1970mj1970 Posts: 9,002member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Why can't the iPhone 4 become that? Or, rather, the 4S, since we're talking about this year's lineup? In addition to it being free on contract, it could also be available off-contract for a less than it already is (instead of $450, say $299).



     


    It might be.


     


    I've tried to guess Apple in the past and usually get it wrong. I try to look for trends and patterns (sometimes from previous product families, etc.) Best I can do. They know their business way better than I do. They know what's selling and what's not. They know whether they're "leaving money on the table" or not. Absent that data, it's hard to guess very accurately where they might head next.

  • Reply 86 of 151
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    gwmac wrote: »
    1920x1280 1080P resolution would be perfect. It would be a resolution that could stick around for a long while as well. Apple sort of boxed themselves into a corner with the original retina. For the current iPhone maybe switch to 720P with a 1280x720 screen and just widen it a bit. 

    All this concern about developers seems silly. They are coders and that is what they do all day every day, type code. They will figure it out because that is their livelihood. Not to mention that Apple already has many competing resolutions. The app developers might moan and grumble for a while but once they switch to 1080P and 720P they could stick with those two resolutions for a long while. If Apple can switch from the original Mac OS to OS X based on Unix and then a short time later switch from PPC to Intel, I think they are not that afraid about resolutions. 

    Every display no matter how large or small should be 1920x1080 so there is an exact 1:! pixel ratio with current HDTVs¡ Who cares about usability and performance so long as if the occasion arises you want to mirror your display on your TV there aren't any black bars¡
  • Reply 87 of 151


     


     


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    As larger iPhones like Samsung's Galaxy Note series



     


    Wow, Samsung makes iPhones now! Never knew!

  • Reply 88 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    gazoobee wrote: »
    How is it that you gave me an "infraction" just this week for a very similar personal remark but it's okay for you to say this Mr. Moderator?  

    If you need an official complaint to act on, I hereby officially complain that this "Tallest Skil" guy made an out of order personal attack on a member of the forum for no apparent reason.  

    To AppleInsider management as a whole:  Please either do something about this troll disguised as a "moderator" or stop penalising the "regular" users of this form for the same thing.  I think we all have thick enough skins that if someone calls someone else a name that it doesn't have to become a big "offence."  

    Conversely, if you can't see your way to doing that, then at least be fair and make sure your Moderators aren't the biggest offenders. 

    Get it right he's an administrator now.
  • Reply 89 of 151
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,805member

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    Originally Posted by MJ1970 View Post


     


    Unless Apple has finally decided/figured out how to starting splitting the product line into "bronze," "silver" and "gold." To date they've done with by retaining the older models. Maybe that will continue to work. Maybe not. Not sure I buy the larger iPhone thing. I don't get what value it brings. But something less expensive and pre-payable seems like a gap to fill. I think they actually have high-end covered well. Now maybe larger becomes the high-end and smaller the low-end. But that doesn't answer how they bring cost down to make it more accessible. And, of course, it isn't necessarily phone cost as much as plan cost that's an issue.



    The switch to lightning provides an opening for Apple to make a bold move. I am sure they would like to switch everything over to lightning as quickly as possible which would also help accessory makers as well.  They already have choice in the iPad and iPod line, so why not in their biggest money maker. Selling the older phones for free or $100 might work well in America for post-paid contract customers, but few Europeans or Asians see a lot of value in a 2 or 3 year old phone for $500. I think they need this Gold, Silver, bronze as you described it strategy. Large displayed phones are not a trend or a fad that will go away. People that buy large displays are repeat customers and often want even larger displays but never smaller. They might have started out due to needing larger batteries for the first battery hogging LTE phones, but they caught on. Propecia was also originally used to control the size of the prostrate and only afterwards did they learn that a side effect was hair regrowth. Now finasteride for hair regrowth makes far more money than it does for controlling the size of the prostate. 

  • Reply 90 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    These people treat Apple as though absolutely nothing they say can be trusted. They ignore the fact that Apple has specifically pitched their current (and past) screens as being usable with one hand. That's not possible with a larger device. But they couldn't care less, as everything Apple says is, to them, a lie.

    Actually a larger phone can be used with one hand just as iPhones aren't solely used with one hand.
  • Reply 91 of 151
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    gwmac wrote: »
    Well said. I have a great idea for an AI poll question. How many people want to see TS continue his role as a mod and how many people want him removed. I bet it would get a lot of votes. ANother great poll question would be to ask the readers at 9to5mac, macrumors, and other popular forums how many of them stopped visiting AI forums due to the constant bullying by TS. I remember him actually threatening to ban people before the iPhone 5 came out for calling the next iPhone the iPhone5!!! Surely there are other people here that could take his place. If any other mods or the site owner are reading this you guys really need to do something because I think he runs off a lot of people from this site. All of this because he just had to call me a troll earlier in the thread for expressing an opinion. 

    Well, I'd like to agree with you, but I'd probably get banned if I did. :smokey:
  • Reply 92 of 151
    If it is above 4.65 inches it joins retarded screen sizes for pocket devices, android is the origin of this
  • Reply 93 of 151


    Originally Posted by gwmac View Post

    I remember him actually threatening to ban people before the iPhone 5 came out for calling the next iPhone the iPhone5!


     


    Pure lies. Your memory seems to be worse than mine, and THAT would be an insult if anyone else was saying it. Given the information I've provided about your recent inaccuracies, do you imagine this is the truth either?!

  • Reply 94 of 151
    I give this rumor 1:8 odds of happening. We're pretty far from an "iPhone 6" introduction. It could be an internal prototype that's never meant to see the light of day.
  • Reply 95 of 151


    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

    We're pretty far from an "iPhone 6" introduction. 


     


    Unless it's this year and they want to trip us up with naming conventions all over again.

  • Reply 96 of 151
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,805member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Pure lies. Your memory seems to be worse than mine, and THAT would be an insult if anyone else was saying it. Given the information I've provided about your recent inaccuracies, do you imagine this is the truth either?!



    OMG, I thought all this had calmed down and now you want to start it up again. It is not a lie because you directed it at me and my eyes might not be that great anymore but my memory sure is. How else is a person to take a dictate from a mod on a forum when they are told "Stop it, stop it now! This is your last warning! " That is exactly what you wrote towards me because I called the unreleased iPhone the iPhone 5 and that was what you wrote to me. Did you use the word ban? No, you didn't. But as a mod using that language that was the implicit threat. I don't feel like going back and looking at post from a year ago, but I am sure others can also remember your unbridled intolerance for the term iPhone 5 back then. 


     


    In fact you still haven't made peace or come to terms with the name iPhone 5 have you? I sure wasn't the only person you tried to shout down over that name either. But since this thread is pretty much dead now I doubt it will get too many more replies, but perhaps that will jog your memory. 

  • Reply 97 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Unless it's this year and they want to trip us up with naming conventions all over again.

    What us? Just you lol
  • Reply 98 of 151


    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post

    What us? Just you lol


     


    Everyone (longhand for "us") thinks it's the iPhone 5S this year. If they released the iPhone 6, that would trip "us" up.

  • Reply 99 of 151
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    Everyone (longhand for "us") thinks it's the iPhone 5S this year. If they released the iPhone 6, that would trip "us" up.

    Yes that would trip us up, but I'm referring to who got tripped up with the iPhone 5 naming which was you, but I will say that I always agreed with your reasons of why it shouldn't have.
  • Reply 100 of 151
    mj1970mj1970 Posts: 9,002member

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Unless it's this year and they want to trip us up with naming conventions all over again.



     


    Maybe they'll just go with: "The new iPhone" image

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