Sammy just announced the Samsung Galaxy Box. It's has > 1700 cubic inches of volume, a retractable set of chopstick. It's also made with HD plastic. it also comes with "gas station sushi."
I would argue that a dot has length and width, just that it's quite minute. I would use the word point to refer to a zero-length line, which is often represented by a dot simply because it's impossible for us to make something visual giving it at both dimensions.
Well it started with "Apple is (currently) restricted (by it's design language)" and then waffled off into a description of "Snow White" which hasn't been relevant or even in use in a decade.
It failed to mention anything about the HIG which would have been more relevant to the point.
Not sure what his comments have to do with the naming of products. Seems it's more about not having a name define the path you go down when designing a product.
Title should be "...Ive's on designing products..." Apple wants to find their own solutions without preconceived design decisions. This is not a new approach to designing. I was exposed to it in the Architectural program at UC Berkeley in the early 1970s. It served me well!
The HIG governs software (and only third-party software; internally Apple takes liberties with their own HIG), while Snow White was about hardware design.
Indeed. (Important to note, however, that there was significant synergy between Bill Atkinson and Esslinger, the father of Snow White design language.)
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Well it started with "Apple is (currently) restricted (by it's design language)" and then waffled off into a description of "Snow White" which hasn't been relevant or even in use in a decade.
It failed to mention anything about the HIG which would have been more relevant to the point.
So tell us why HIG would be more relevant to industrial design than Snow White. In my simple, irrelevant world, the term design language is used much more often in industrial design than software UI. But hey, do tell as I am here to learn.
Well it started with "Apple is (currently) restricted (by it's design language)" and then waffled off into a description of "Snow White" which hasn't been relevant or even in use in a decade.
It failed to mention anything about the HIG which would have been more relevant to the point.
This is what some refer to as doubling down on stupid. Quit while you're behind.
Indeed. (Important to note, however, that there was significant synergy between Bill Atkinson and Esslinger, the father of Snow White design language.)
So tell us why HIG would be more relevant to industrial design than Snow White. In my simple, irrelevant world, the term design language is used much more often in industrial design than software UI. But hey, do tell as I am here to learn.
Is it necessary to keep baiting him? Is it necessary to digress into another pissing match, knowing his record of never giving ground even when wrong?
I would argue that a dot has length and width, just that it's quite minute. I would use the word point to refer to a zero-length line, which is often represented by a dot simply because it's impossible for us to make something visual giving it at both dimensions.
You're correct. Point was the word I was trying to convey.
I would argue that a dot has length and width, just that it's quite minute. I would use the word point to refer to a zero-length line, which is often represented by a dot simply because it's impossible for us to make something visual giving it at both dimensions.
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You're correct. Point was the word I was trying to convey.
I could be wrong, but AFAIK there is no formal definition of a dot in math. But a point is formally defined as being dimensionless and therefore cannot be considered to have zero length.
But a point is formally defined as being dimensionless and therefore cannot be considered to have zero length.
There are two kinds of points in geometry. There is the zero-dimensional point as being discussed previously and there is the lesser-known point-free geometry that I only know about in concept but couldn't explain even on my best day. The latter one appears to fall into your dimensionless notion.
I would argue that a dot has length and width, just that it's quite minute. I would use the word point to refer to a zero-length line, which is often represented by a dot simply because it's impossible for us to make something visual giving it at both dimensions.
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You're correct. Point was the word I was trying to convey.
I could be wrong, but AFAIK there is no formal definition of a dot in math. But a point is formally defined as being dimensionless and therefore cannot be considered to have zero length.
I don't care what Apple calls one of the iPads that I own. As far as I'm concerned it's the iPad 3, not the new iPad, since it isn't exactly new anymore, and there's an iPad 4 out. As a matter of fact, people can't even buy "the new iPad" anymore.
And that guy still gets a paycheck from Apple, what a joke.
What he may have done or accomplished many decades ago does not make up for the non stop negative Apple comments every time that guy opens his mouth lately.
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Better yet it'll carry a 6ft hero/sub with ease.
I would argue that a dot has length and width, just that it's quite minute. I would use the word point to refer to a zero-length line, which is often represented by a dot simply because it's impossible for us to make something visual giving it at both dimensions.
But you can call a show "Blue Peter", ha ha ha. I know, I know, 8th grade humor, but it keeps me young.
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Unsurprised. All part of natural selection.
Well it started with "Apple is (currently) restricted (by it's design language)" and then waffled off into a description of "Snow White" which hasn't been relevant or even in use in a decade.
It failed to mention anything about the HIG which would have been more relevant to the point.
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Not sure what his comments have to do with the naming of products. Seems it's more about not having a name define the path you go down when designing a product.
Title should be "...Ive's on designing products..." Apple wants to find their own solutions without preconceived design decisions. This is not a new approach to designing. I was exposed to it in the Architectural program at UC Berkeley in the early 1970s. It served me well!
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The HIG governs software (and only third-party software; internally Apple takes liberties with their own HIG), while Snow White was about hardware design.
Indeed. (Important to note, however, that there was significant synergy between Bill Atkinson and Esslinger, the father of Snow White design language.)
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Well it started with "Apple is (currently) restricted (by it's design language)" and then waffled off into a description of "Snow White" which hasn't been relevant or even in use in a decade.
It failed to mention anything about the HIG which would have been more relevant to the point.
So tell us why HIG would be more relevant to industrial design than Snow White. In my simple, irrelevant world, the term design language is used much more often in industrial design than software UI. But hey, do tell as I am here to learn.
This is what some refer to as doubling down on stupid. Quit while you're behind.
Is it necessary to keep baiting him? Is it necessary to digress into another pissing match, knowing his record of never giving ground even when wrong?
You're correct. Point was the word I was trying to convey.
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I would argue that a dot has length and width, just that it's quite minute. I would use the word point to refer to a zero-length line, which is often represented by a dot simply because it's impossible for us to make something visual giving it at both dimensions.
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You're correct. Point was the word I was trying to convey.
I could be wrong, but AFAIK there is no formal definition of a dot in math. But a point is formally defined as being dimensionless and therefore cannot be considered to have zero length.
There are two kinds of points in geometry. There is the zero-dimensional point as being discussed previously and there is the lesser-known point-free geometry that I only know about in concept but couldn't explain even on my best day. The latter one appears to fall into your dimensionless notion.
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I would argue that a dot has length and width, just that it's quite minute. I would use the word point to refer to a zero-length line, which is often represented by a dot simply because it's impossible for us to make something visual giving it at both dimensions.
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You're correct. Point was the word I was trying to convey.
I could be wrong, but AFAIK there is no formal definition of a dot in math. But a point is formally defined as being dimensionless and therefore cannot be considered to have zero length.
What's your dot?
SOT... it looks like an iTaco
I don't care what Apple calls one of the iPads that I own. As far as I'm concerned it's the iPad 3, not the new iPad, since it isn't exactly new anymore, and there's an iPad 4 out. As a matter of fact, people can't even buy "the new iPad" anymore.
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What's your dot?
SOT... it looks like an iTaco
Getting personal, aren't we? ;-)
Watch out Jony, Woz says Apple is losing its cool and has to rely more on its brand now.
http://www.cultofmac.com/216693/woz-apples-dangerously-close-to-losing-its-cool/
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Watch out Jony, Woz says Apple is losing its cool and has to rely more on its brand now.
http://www.cultofmac.com/216693/woz-apples-dangerously-close-to-losing-its-cool/
And that guy still gets a paycheck from Apple, what a joke.
What he may have done or accomplished many decades ago does not make up for the non stop negative Apple comments every time that guy opens his mouth lately.
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