Apart from Apple not bringing the price of Retina Macbook Pros down to match the price points of the classic (Which I thought was more of an issue with the Retina display being expensive)
I can see what suffer means here........ I'm not dumb.
You realize that the build quality is better, the battery is much bigger, the thermodynamics are much more advanced...
Is Apple on the road to merge the Air and MBP to one ultra device? Sounds great!
I hope so eventually but Intel determines the TDP of the chips. I don't like the appearance of the Air from the front because of the curvature of the base but the side wedge looks nice. I prefer the black bezel around the display too and the display could perhaps be larger inside the frame. Like the following:
Because the Air has the slimmer profile, it has a smaller battery, which a Retina display would impact. They had to increase the battery capacity in the rMBPs to get the same battery life as the cMBPs.
I'd like to see them put 3 or 4 USB ports on instead of just 2. They can have two on each side. I think they should get rid of the 11" and have either a 13" and 15" or just a 14". Worldwide, 14" and 15" make up the majority of the laptop sales.
I couldn't fit 14" into the 13" Air bezel so the chassis would have to be a bit bigger for that but 13.6" fit in ok if they wanted the dimensions to stay the same. They used to have a 13" Macbook at the entry level and then 13" Pro and 15" Pro. They could have a 13.6"/14" Air with the tapered profile non-Retina starting at $999 with 128GB SSD and ULV CPU. Then just BTO options that go up to the non-tapered, non-ULV, Retina MBP, which would have the same size chassis starting at say $1299, starting at 256GB SSD. BTO options to the 15" rMBP at $1799 and so on.
I think the fact their 15" starts at $1800 is a problem because it's the most popular form factor and if they at least had a 14" Air start at $999, it wouldn't be quite so bad.
However, the lack of Ethernet is still a minor frustration point. Wifi may be good enough for most at home or a Starbucks; but Ethernet is still faster, more reliable, and the only way most businesses let you connect to secure data. Unlike HDs and ODDs, it's not going anywhere. Sure I use an adapter, but it's clumsy, and have to be conscientious of bringing it with me all the time. Otherwise this is the best darn computer I've ever used.
802.11ac will close the performance gap between GigE and WiFi, but perhaps not right away. I assume the next MBPs ail get 802.11ac and we'll get new AirPort class products that support 802.11ac. There is also the chace that the actual throughput could be lower than GigE if Apple uses a dual antennas at 80Mhz setup which will max out at 867Mb/s. Once you consider the additional overhead and other factors with the way Wi-Fi works compared to a switch it would likely be noticeably slower. Hopefully they'll use at least dual antennas at 160MHz which doubles the speed to 1.69Gb/s. I'd wager that even with the overhead it'll be faster than GigE.
What places do you use Ethernet? I use it in exactly one place so keeping my adapter on the cable add no additional hassle for me. In fact, it might make it easier to connect/disconnect since mDP doesn't have that annoying plug that RJ45 has.
My usage is not from the 1990s or 2000s, you are generalising without actually knowing what I use my Macbook for. Or any technology for that matter. I am mainly an early adaptor. Its just in this case the CD drive is not obsolete for me just yet
My Macbook pro is portable enough, equal build quality and has a battery life the same as the others.
Software is digital but it is often cheaper to buy on disk plus I hate having to download software every time I install on a different computer/ do a clean install.
I usually buy music in iTunes but often the CD will be cheaper than on iTunes and then you get the booklet.
I think batteries are a concern. I have a mid-2007 MBP which I'm on my third battery, not counting one that was replaced (I think) due to the Sony defective battery recall. The dead batteries started pillowing pretty quickly, so you really want to get it replaced within a few days of dying, if you can't pre-empt it by getting it before it goes. On at least one, I didn't have a notice that it was dying, it just quit charging.
Our related concern is how long does Apple provide NEW replacement batteries on old computer products? If Apple no longer supplies them and third parties won't deal with the glue, then what?
My usage is not from the 1990s or 2000s, you are generalising without actually knowing what I use my Macbook for. Or any technology for that matter. I am mainly an early adaptor. Its just in this case the CD drive is not obsolete for me just yet
My Macbook pro is portable enough, equal build quality and has a battery life the same as the others.
Software is digital but it is often cheaper to buy on disk plus I hate having to download software every time I install on a different computer/ do a clean install.
I usually buy music in iTunes but often the CD will be cheaper than on iTunes and then you get the booklet.
So keep you mac until you are ready to buy another one, or buy a low end PC (because all of those high end models and me-too copies are leaving those optical drives and HDD on the better configurations).
It doesn't make sense for Apple to make a Mac just for you (exaggerating, obviously). Getting rid of those cMBPs means more adoption to the other models, prices coming down, and no doubt about the optical and HDD belonging to the past. Same thing with the 30pin connector.
Financially and for the good and future of tech, it makes all the sense in the world to dump those machines.
I assume your 2007 model uses the older 300 charge batteries before it gets to 80%. That means it could happen every year for a normal user but I don't think Apple moved to the built0in batteries until the 1000 cycle batteries.
This is my 2010 13' MBP battery. It's never been changed but after 3 years of use it has nearly 700 full cycles used and is at 80%. I tried to get Apple to replace it for free since they claim 1000 charges before it reaches 80% capacity but they wouldn't.
Still, I don't see this as an issue since it's not a defective battery and if I have to pay $129 every 3 or 2 years (lets say someone completely discharges their battery once per day every day for 2 years and has the same results as I do) I don't think the expense is a big deal. Certainly not big enough to warrant Apple killing the entire line so it can support 1) users who want multiple internal batteries, and 2) uses who want to save a couple dollars by replacing their own battery. It's clear that most users simply don't want to carry multiple batteries or every have battery problems they have to pay for with their notebooks.
I've never carried multiple batteries for my MBP. The expense isn't the biggest concern, although it is annoying. However, but if I wasn't able to eject the battery, I might have had a ruined chassis because the expansion in the battery adds a considerable strain. Maybe the new batteries don't expand, I don't really know, to be honest. I understand the merits of the non-removable battery, you probably will also have to be without the machine for a week or so while they replace it. Then there's the concern about your data being in someone else's hands, so there's the backup, wipe then reload on return.
Our related concern is how long does Apple provide NEW replacement batteries on old computer products? If Apple no longer supplies them and third parties won't deal with the glue, then what?
Apple still supplies batteries for the original MacBook Pro. Newertek offers batteries too, I'm trying one of theirs right now. It seems to work fine.
Its just in this case the CD drive is not obsolete for me just yet.
And that's fine.. for you… but you're suggesting that progress needs to stop because you aren't ready for it. That's not something I can get behind. I've actually been an early adopter. I have had 3 13" MBPs that I have removed the ODD and installed an SSD to go with the HDD so I can get fast speed with high capacity. I wanted something that Apple wasn't selling so I looked for a solution that suited my needs. That's what you should be doing, not complaining that Apple is doing it all wrong.
Software is digital but it is often cheaper to buy on disk plus I hate having to download software every time I install on a different computer/ do a clean install.
1) How often are you doing a clean install?
2) I would wager that most of your post-OS software only comes from a download and would downloaded faster than it would take you to install and speed up an ODD. MS and Adobe certainly have large installs but even if you have some old DVD you bought years ago you'll still have plenty of updates that you'll still need to grab from a download.
I usually buy music in iTunes but often the CD will be cheaper than on iTunes and then you get the booklet.
Sure, a lot of people do, but how many Audio CDs are you buying that you need to have an ODD in your 13" MBP at all times taking up 25% of the internal space? I would say not too many people are buying multiple CDs per day. I'd say most don't even buy 1 CD per week. You plug in the ODD to USB, copy it over and your done. You can now play it whenever you want from the HDD/SSD and copy it to any portable device you wish. This is a very common use of Audio CDs and iTunes.
However, but if I wasn't able to eject the battery, I might have had a ruined chassis because the expansion in the battery adds a considerable strain. Maybe the new batteries don't expand, I don't really know, to be honest. I understand the merits of the non-removable battery, you probably will also have to be without the machine for a week or so while they replace it.
In my previous 13" MBP with the integrated battery it expanded so it's possible. I noticed the trackpad was really hard to press in one place. They replaced the battery and trackpad in a day. I'm sure results will vary but I'd think a week for Apple is a long time, even if you do mail it in.
And how, exactly would a 15" MBA Retina be different from a 15" MBP Retina? (Let me guess: shorter battery life in the Air, because the Pro is obviously weighed down by that gigantic 8-hr battery /s).
So why is Apple still selling the iPad 2 with the outdated 30-pin connector? If the cMBP is still selling well and Apple has data that shows its not just because of price I can see them continuing to sell it. If its because of price and Apple can get the prices down on the rMBP then I think the cMBP will be discontinued.
Again I'm not asking for progress to stop, and its not just the minority. I'm not complaining that Apple is doing any thing wrong either. I have also got my solution. Thinking that they might discontinue the classic pro when the 13 inch retina came out I decided to upgrade to the last proper classic pro. My next Macbook will be a retina or an air, as by then I will have left optical drives behind and will have an iMac with an external optical drive in case.
I clean install ever 6 months or so. Sometimes sooner. I've also got to do the rest of my families Macs yearly.
My Software is all pretty new and is a lot faster to install off an optical disk for the time being. We are a few years off getting the National Broadband network. I'd love to have final cut and iWork on disk... it would save a lot of time.
My software includes; iWork, iLife, Office, CS 5, Final Cut Pro X, Xcode, Guitar Pro, Games, Toast Titanium, Reunion and a heap of others.
Its not just Audio cds, Its watching DVDs, playing games, easily archiving stuff as a backup away from home (I don't want to waste money on a harddrive for it to sit at a relatives place) and because I have a laptop I don't want an external CD drive. As I said when I have money and upgrade in 4 years or so I probably won't even need an optical disk drive.
And its not just the optical disk drive I like, I love being able to upgrade the RAM and Harddrive, unlike the other Macbooks. The same as with the battery. At this point in time getting a 750 GB SDD is stupidly expensive. In 4 years it won't be (Then again it will be small in 4 years :P )
So why is Apple still selling the iPad 2 with the outdated 30-pin connector? If the cMBP is still selling well and Apple has data that shows its not just because of price I can see them continuing to sell it. If its because of price and Apple can get the prices down on the rMBP then I think the cMBP will be discontinued.
1) Sure, if there is a big enough market to warrant keeping it in the line-up they will just like with the iPod Classic. I could even see them not updating the internals or consolidating it into one model, either 13" or 15", just like they did with the iPod Classic.
2) I think the drop of the 2010 iPod Touches with the 30-pin connector may indicate that we'll see all devices with the 30-pin connectors go away this year. That would mean no iPhone 4S or iPod 2, at least not without a redesign. One could argue that with multiple devices in a line up that keeping older devices makes less sense. They typically haven't kept older iPods or Macs on the showroom floor. Only the iPad and iPhone had older versions selling as new consistently and we now have the iPad mini and there are rumours of the iPhone branching out, too.
Whoever this `analyst' is they definitely just recycle words nearly verbatim from discussions held in the past two days between fans after the first Haswell tests were published at Anandtech, The Verge and other places. Then again with Haswell running hotter than Ivy Bridge the odds of a thinner form factor seems slim to none.
802.11ac will close the performance gap between GigE and WiFi, but perhaps not right away. I assume the next MBPs ail get 802.11ac and we'll get new AirPort class products that support 802.11ac. There is also the chace that the actual throughput could be lower than GigE if Apple uses a dual antennas at 80Mhz setup which will max out at 867Mb/s. Once you consider the additional overhead and other factors with the way Wi-Fi works compared to a switch it would likely be noticeably slower. Hopefully they'll use at least dual antennas at 160MHz which doubles the speed to 1.69Gb/s. I'd wager that even with the overhead it'll be faster than GigE.
What places do you use Ethernet? I use it in exactly one place so keeping my adapter on the cable add no additional hassle for me. In fact, it might make it easier to connect/disconnect since mDP doesn't have that annoying plug that RJ45 has.
I use Ethernet [at home on my network] and at every consulting job I've ever worked for within the Fortune 1000.
Because Mountain Lion likes to slow down after a while. (Eg boot times randomly going to 1:30 minutes from the usual 30 seconds. There are a lot of Mac people who do regular clean installs
My software includes; iWork, iLife, Office, CS 5, Final Cut Pro X, Xcode, Guitar Pro, Games, Toast Titanium, Reunion and a heap of others.
1) Again, I bet most of your SW doesn't even come on an optical disc and then you have all the downloads to update and patch it once you do use the very few DVDs you have for apps to install a very small number of albeit large apps.
2) Xcode? Really? Are you using Leopard?
As I said when I have money and upgrade in 4 years or so I probably won't even need an optical disk drive.
Why not when you're so sure you need one now? In 4 years you're more likely to want Blu-ray on your Mac than DVD. Aren't you wanting Apple to use a tray-loading BRD so you can play movies on your laptop off a disk?
I love being able to upgrade the RAM and Harddrive, unlike the other Macbooks. The same as with the battery.
Now we finally come to the real reason you dislike the new RMBPs.
To sum up: You want to to use your ODD as often as possible and even though you still don't use it often you still want to carry it around with you all the time taking up 25% of your system's internal space without any interest without having an actually more functional and better machine that can still utilize an ODD on the occasion you do actual need one. I think the reason you want to keep it is the same reason you think a Mac needs a biannual or annual reinstall.
To sum up: You want to to use your ODD as often as possible and even though you still don't use it often you still want to carry it around with you all the time taking up 25% of your system's internal space without any interest without having an actually more functional and better machine that can still utilize an ODD on the occasion you do actual need one.
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
Sorry :P Wrong person.
Apart from Apple not bringing the price of Retina Macbook Pros down to match the price points of the classic (Which I thought was more of an issue with the Retina display being expensive)
I can see what suffer means here........ I'm not dumb.
You realize that the build quality is better, the battery is much bigger, the thermodynamics are much more advanced...
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
Again... This is not just me. Perhaps it is because a lot of the Mac users I know are PC converts and are therefore used to Optical drives?
your usage belongs to 1990s and 2000s. It belongs there, together with the machines you want.
Is that simple. Media is digital, software is digital, portability and battery life + power is what matters, = rMBP and/or Air.
I hope so eventually but Intel determines the TDP of the chips. I don't like the appearance of the Air from the front because of the curvature of the base but the side wedge looks nice. I prefer the black bezel around the display too and the display could perhaps be larger inside the frame. Like the following:
Because the Air has the slimmer profile, it has a smaller battery, which a Retina display would impact. They had to increase the battery capacity in the rMBPs to get the same battery life as the cMBPs.
I'd like to see them put 3 or 4 USB ports on instead of just 2. They can have two on each side. I think they should get rid of the 11" and have either a 13" and 15" or just a 14". Worldwide, 14" and 15" make up the majority of the laptop sales.
I couldn't fit 14" into the 13" Air bezel so the chassis would have to be a bit bigger for that but 13.6" fit in ok if they wanted the dimensions to stay the same. They used to have a 13" Macbook at the entry level and then 13" Pro and 15" Pro. They could have a 13.6"/14" Air with the tapered profile non-Retina starting at $999 with 128GB SSD and ULV CPU. Then just BTO options that go up to the non-tapered, non-ULV, Retina MBP, which would have the same size chassis starting at say $1299, starting at 256GB SSD. BTO options to the 15" rMBP at $1799 and so on.
I think the fact their 15" starts at $1800 is a problem because it's the most popular form factor and if they at least had a 14" Air start at $999, it wouldn't be quite so bad.
802.11ac will close the performance gap between GigE and WiFi, but perhaps not right away. I assume the next MBPs ail get 802.11ac and we'll get new AirPort class products that support 802.11ac. There is also the chace that the actual throughput could be lower than GigE if Apple uses a dual antennas at 80Mhz setup which will max out at 867Mb/s. Once you consider the additional overhead and other factors with the way Wi-Fi works compared to a switch it would likely be noticeably slower. Hopefully they'll use at least dual antennas at 160MHz which doubles the speed to 1.69Gb/s. I'd wager that even with the overhead it'll be faster than GigE.
What places do you use Ethernet? I use it in exactly one place so keeping my adapter on the cable add no additional hassle for me. In fact, it might make it easier to connect/disconnect since mDP doesn't have that annoying plug that RJ45 has.
My usage is not from the 1990s or 2000s, you are generalising without actually knowing what I use my Macbook for. Or any technology for that matter. I am mainly an early adaptor. Its just in this case the CD drive is not obsolete for me just yet
My Macbook pro is portable enough, equal build quality and has a battery life the same as the others.
Software is digital but it is often cheaper to buy on disk plus I hate having to download software every time I install on a different computer/ do a clean install.
I usually buy music in iTunes but often the CD will be cheaper than on iTunes and then you get the booklet.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
I think batteries are a concern. I have a mid-2007 MBP which I'm on my third battery, not counting one that was replaced (I think) due to the Sony defective battery recall. The dead batteries started pillowing pretty quickly, so you really want to get it replaced within a few days of dying, if you can't pre-empt it by getting it before it goes. On at least one, I didn't have a notice that it was dying, it just quit charging.
Our related concern is how long does Apple provide NEW replacement batteries on old computer products? If Apple no longer supplies them and third parties won't deal with the glue, then what?
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
My usage is not from the 1990s or 2000s, you are generalising without actually knowing what I use my Macbook for. Or any technology for that matter. I am mainly an early adaptor. Its just in this case the CD drive is not obsolete for me just yet
My Macbook pro is portable enough, equal build quality and has a battery life the same as the others.
Software is digital but it is often cheaper to buy on disk plus I hate having to download software every time I install on a different computer/ do a clean install.
I usually buy music in iTunes but often the CD will be cheaper than on iTunes and then you get the booklet.
So keep you mac until you are ready to buy another one, or buy a low end PC (because all of those high end models and me-too copies are leaving those optical drives and HDD on the better configurations).
It doesn't make sense for Apple to make a Mac just for you (exaggerating, obviously). Getting rid of those cMBPs means more adoption to the other models, prices coming down, and no doubt about the optical and HDD belonging to the past. Same thing with the 30pin connector.
Financially and for the good and future of tech, it makes all the sense in the world to dump those machines.
I've never carried multiple batteries for my MBP. The expense isn't the biggest concern, although it is annoying. However, but if I wasn't able to eject the battery, I might have had a ruined chassis because the expansion in the battery adds a considerable strain. Maybe the new batteries don't expand, I don't really know, to be honest. I understand the merits of the non-removable battery, you probably will also have to be without the machine for a week or so while they replace it. Then there's the concern about your data being in someone else's hands, so there's the backup, wipe then reload on return.
Apple still supplies batteries for the original MacBook Pro. Newertek offers batteries too, I'm trying one of theirs right now. It seems to work fine.
And that's fine.. for you… but you're suggesting that progress needs to stop because you aren't ready for it. That's not something I can get behind. I've actually been an early adopter. I have had 3 13" MBPs that I have removed the ODD and installed an SSD to go with the HDD so I can get fast speed with high capacity. I wanted something that Apple wasn't selling so I looked for a solution that suited my needs. That's what you should be doing, not complaining that Apple is doing it all wrong.
1) How often are you doing a clean install?
2) I would wager that most of your post-OS software only comes from a download and would downloaded faster than it would take you to install and speed up an ODD. MS and Adobe certainly have large installs but even if you have some old DVD you bought years ago you'll still have plenty of updates that you'll still need to grab from a download.
Sure, a lot of people do, but how many Audio CDs are you buying that you need to have an ODD in your 13" MBP at all times taking up 25% of the internal space? I would say not too many people are buying multiple CDs per day. I'd say most don't even buy 1 CD per week. You plug in the ODD to USB, copy it over and your done. You can now play it whenever you want from the HDD/SSD and copy it to any portable device you wish. This is a very common use of Audio CDs and iTunes.
In my previous 13" MBP with the integrated battery it expanded so it's possible. I noticed the trackpad was really hard to press in one place. They replaced the battery and trackpad in a day. I'm sure results will vary but I'd think a week for Apple is a long time, even if you do mail it in.
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Originally Posted by Eriamjh
Yes. 15" MBA retina or not and I'm in!
And how, exactly would a 15" MBA Retina be different from a 15" MBP Retina? (Let me guess: shorter battery life in the Air, because the Pro is obviously weighed down by that gigantic 8-hr battery /s).
Again I'm not asking for progress to stop, and its not just the minority. I'm not complaining that Apple is doing any thing wrong either. I have also got my solution. Thinking that they might discontinue the classic pro when the 13 inch retina came out I decided to upgrade to the last proper classic pro. My next Macbook will be a retina or an air, as by then I will have left optical drives behind and will have an iMac with an external optical drive in case.
I clean install ever 6 months or so. Sometimes sooner. I've also got to do the rest of my families Macs yearly.
My Software is all pretty new and is a lot faster to install off an optical disk for the time being. We are a few years off getting the National Broadband network. I'd love to have final cut and iWork on disk... it would save a lot of time.
My software includes; iWork, iLife, Office, CS 5, Final Cut Pro X, Xcode, Guitar Pro, Games, Toast Titanium, Reunion and a heap of others.
Its not just Audio cds, Its watching DVDs, playing games, easily archiving stuff as a backup away from home (I don't want to waste money on a harddrive for it to sit at a relatives place) and because I have a laptop I don't want an external CD drive. As I said when I have money and upgrade in 4 years or so I probably won't even need an optical disk drive.
And its not just the optical disk drive I like, I love being able to upgrade the RAM and Harddrive, unlike the other Macbooks. The same as with the battery. At this point in time getting a 750 GB SDD is stupidly expensive. In 4 years it won't be (Then again it will be small in 4 years :P )
1) Sure, if there is a big enough market to warrant keeping it in the line-up they will just like with the iPod Classic. I could even see them not updating the internals or consolidating it into one model, either 13" or 15", just like they did with the iPod Classic.
2) I think the drop of the 2010 iPod Touches with the 30-pin connector may indicate that we'll see all devices with the 30-pin connectors go away this year. That would mean no iPhone 4S or iPod 2, at least not without a redesign. One could argue that with multiple devices in a line up that keeping older devices makes less sense. They typically haven't kept older iPods or Macs on the showroom floor. Only the iPad and iPhone had older versions selling as new consistently and we now have the iPad mini and there are rumours of the iPhone branching out, too.
Whoever this `analyst' is they definitely just recycle words nearly verbatim from discussions held in the past two days between fans after the first Haswell tests were published at Anandtech, The Verge and other places. Then again with Haswell running hotter than Ivy Bridge the odds of a thinner form factor seems slim to none.
Originally Posted by oldmacs
I clean install ever 6 months or so. Sometimes sooner. I've also got to do the rest of my families Macs yearly.
WH~Y?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
802.11ac will close the performance gap between GigE and WiFi, but perhaps not right away. I assume the next MBPs ail get 802.11ac and we'll get new AirPort class products that support 802.11ac. There is also the chace that the actual throughput could be lower than GigE if Apple uses a dual antennas at 80Mhz setup which will max out at 867Mb/s. Once you consider the additional overhead and other factors with the way Wi-Fi works compared to a switch it would likely be noticeably slower. Hopefully they'll use at least dual antennas at 160MHz which doubles the speed to 1.69Gb/s. I'd wager that even with the overhead it'll be faster than GigE.
What places do you use Ethernet? I use it in exactly one place so keeping my adapter on the cable add no additional hassle for me. In fact, it might make it easier to connect/disconnect since mDP doesn't have that annoying plug that RJ45 has.
I use Ethernet [at home on my network] and at every consulting job I've ever worked for within the Fortune 1000.
Because Mountain Lion likes to slow down after a while. (Eg boot times randomly going to 1:30 minutes from the usual 30 seconds. There are a lot of Mac people who do regular clean installs
:no: You're doing it wrong.
1) Again, I bet most of your SW doesn't even come on an optical disc and then you have all the downloads to update and patch it once you do use the very few DVDs you have for apps to install a very small number of albeit large apps.
2) Xcode? Really? Are you using Leopard?
Why not when you're so sure you need one now? In 4 years you're more likely to want Blu-ray on your Mac than DVD. Aren't you wanting Apple to use a tray-loading BRD so you can play movies on your laptop off a disk?
Now we finally come to the real reason you dislike the new RMBPs.
To sum up: You want to to use your ODD as often as possible and even though you still don't use it often you still want to carry it around with you all the time taking up 25% of your system's internal space without any interest without having an actually more functional and better machine that can still utilize an ODD on the occasion you do actual need one. I think the reason you want to keep it is the same reason you think a Mac needs a biannual or annual reinstall.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
To sum up: You want to to use your ODD as often as possible and even though you still don't use it often you still want to carry it around with you all the time taking up 25% of your system's internal space without any interest without having an actually more functional and better machine that can still utilize an ODD on the occasion you do actual need one.
I'd sig this, but it'd screw up formatting.