I don't know a single person who has been happy about the lack of Optical Disk drive on Macs.... I use mine all the time for reading Audio Cds, Burning DVDs, Burning CDs with Data, Backup, Watching DVDs ect.
My point is why people want to kill this Mac? What is it doing- Its not Harming anyone. 3 of my friends bought the same Macbook as me last year (PC converts) as the retina Macbook is way too expensive for storage space.
1. And, consequently, I don't know a single person who does care about an optical drive in a laptop anymore. I know several people who bought a Macbook Air. See how analogies work? I also don't know a single person that does those things you do in the 1st paragraph, and it seems like you enjoy being stuck in the past even if it takes more effort and inconvenience to accomplish anything. Reading Audio CDs? Why not just rip them and never have to insert the CD again? You burn data and backup on DVDs? That's an utterly archaic method of backing up Data, and there are so many superior methods available. Watching DVDs? There's a reason DVD rental stores have pretty much all gone out of business. Using your niche use cases and that of a couple people you know is not evidence that there is "demand" for any of these things. Unless you can prove that millions of people are clamoring for the same thing, your point is moot. For the past 2 years, I haven't once encountered a situation where I needed or wanted to insert an optical disk into my computer- and I use it for many, many tasks. Every single thing you mention that you're using an optical drive for can be accomplished more efficiently and easily using a myriad of other methods, without the need for a bulky, noise, power-hungry, unreliable component that is obsolete.
This is the same story with every single technology that Apple retired, with people like ou whining that Apple is cutting out a massive portion of its customer base. And every single time Apple's sales and success have skyrocketed. What does that tell you?
2. "What is it doing- Its not Harming anyone."
It blows my mind that some people who claim to like Apple and have followed them for a while don't have a shred of insight about the philosophy of the company. From what you've seen, Apple is the type of company that just leaves its older products for sale because "they're not harming anyone?" Really? Why not just leave all their older models hanging around in the store? And yes, there are several ways it "harms" a company like Apple.
a. Makes the product line more complex, which Apple hates
b. Creates more customer confusion. Customers have to compare and contrast more models and makes a decision more difficult
c. Eats up manufacturing capability which can be used towards improving scale and efficiency of other products
d. Slows adoption of newer technologies that Apple wants to push people towards (SSD, etc)
e. Takes up extremely valuable retail shelf space
f. Takes up support resources, and adds more configurations that its software needs to run and be tested on
g. The optical and hard drives are by far the most unreliable and error prone component of any laptop. Since these are most likely to fail, overall would decrease satisfaction ratings
Etc. There's always "harm" in leaving older models for sales, especially for a company like Apple. You just need to think about it for a few seconds to realize what the harm is. Apple is known for it's relentless focus, simple product lines, and culling of older technologies to move things forward. Keeping these machines goes against all of that, and I for one hope they drop them at WWDC. I'm sure you can adapt if you updated your methods for this decade, like millions of others have. That makes more sense than demanding that Apple continue selling an older line of laptops which include technologies they've deprecated in every single other product.
I bought last years model and I love mine. Some people need ethernet and an Optical drive. Apple would be alienating a lot of people if they got rid of the 13 inch classic pro, because believe it or not a lot of people like having ports and an Optical drive. Schools especially need the 13 Inch Macbook pro, or Apple needs to upgrade it and rename it the Macbook again.
Seeing as I was upgrading from a 2008 Plastic Macbook, the classic MB 13 inch was perfect. Optical drive, Upgradable RAM, Upgradable Harddrive and affordable. Both the air and the Pro retina are far too expesnive. There is no way that I could afford 8 GB of ram and a 750 GB Harddrive on either (I don't even think the SDD on the air goes up to 750 GB)
The Old MBP is an excellent machine. If you replace the DV drive with an SSD (and keep the DVD drive as an external drive) - it is an even better machine imo. Or if you need the optical drive in the machine, just upgrade the HD to an SSD. It is an awesome upgrade.
In my previous 13" MBP with the integrated battery it expanded so it's possible. I noticed the trackpad was really hard to press in one place. They replaced the battery and trackpad in a day. I'm sure results will vary but I'd think a week for Apple is a long time, even if you do mail it in.
That's good to hear.
My local Apple store doesn't strike me as the kind that would replace an internal battery in house. Distance from a repair center could factor greatly in turnaround time, depending on how it is shipped.
I use Ethernet [at home on my network] and at every consulting job I've ever worked for within the Fortune 1000.
Are you sticking with an older MBP or gong with the USB or TB-to-Ethernet dongle?
If WiFi isn't completely out of the question and the Ethernet you're plugging is designed to also with a IP phone then plugging in a small PoE wireless router could be a solution.
Because Mountain Lion likes to slow down after a while. (Eg boot times randomly going to 1:30 minutes from the usual 30 seconds. There are a lot of Mac people who do regular clean installs
I can't say I've experience this with Mac OS, Windows 7 or Windows 8. Certainly not with Mountain Lion.
I've been saying this for years now, but it's time for Apple to completely abandon the ODD from all of it's products. It is useless, it is offensive, it is noisy, it is power hungry, it's not 100% reliable and it takes up valuable space. A forward thinking company like Apple can not continue to include such an obsolete atrocity in it's products.
I feel sorry for anybody who lives in the middle of nowhere without a decent internet connection and people who still travel to work using a horse and buggy, but human civilization must continue on, and technological progress can not be hindered just because of a few dinosaurs that still remain. High speed internet is simply a requirement for all modern computing needs. The majority should not be inconvenienced by an insignificant minority. You still use actual audio CD's and you still watch horrible quality DVD movies and you still back up to Disk like it's 1999? Well, just go out and buy an external drive. It is you that should be inconvenienced, because you have special needs.
Again I'm not asking for progress to stop, and its not just the minority.
Actually, you are in the minority.
The MBA sold well without an optical drive. The rMBP is selling like crazy - without an optical drive. One of the few highlights of the Windows PC market is Ultrabooks - you guessed it, without an optical drive.
If you hare having to reinstall ML regularly, you have a problem that you should fix. It could be that you've mucked it up with trojans or you're installing iffy software or perhaps it's a hardware problem, but there's no reason why ML should have to be reinstalled - ever.
On the reasons why older mac book pros have to stay around: - I am very passionate about photography, and have a very large collection of pictures shot in RAW with a DSLR.
Now. Of course I would die to have a retina mac. But I currently use the 17" mbp which has a huge difference in real estate to the 15".
Moreover I have a 750 GB HDD. Picture the price tag of that size on a SSD on a retina...
I could give up the real estate for a retina display. But I don't want a portable computer with an external drive constantly connected to it. It defies the purpose!
I think apple went all SSD too soon on the MacBook. Why not fusion drive? With the spare space from the ODD? The prices of SSD are still too high (if we talk above 500 gb). I am all for the cloud, but having to be constantly connected to work on my pictures is a pain. Let me store them on my mac! (For a decent price).
If anything apple has to increase storage on the mbp. Cloud is, at the moment, for more portable devices (iPad, iPhone and MBAir). The pro is a different league. Storage and performance are paramount not optionals or gimmicks...
On the reasons why older mac book pros have to stay around:
- I am very passionate about photography, and have a very large collection of pictures shot in RAW with a DSLR.
Now. Of course I would die to have a retina mac. But I currently use the 17" mbp which has a huge difference in real estate to the 15".
Moreover I have a 750 GB HDD. Picture the price tag of that size on a SSD on a retina...
I could give up the real estate for a retina display. But I don't want a portable computer with an external drive constantly connected to it. It defies the purpose!
I think apple went all SSD too soon on the MacBook. Why not fusion drive? With the spare space from the ODD? The prices of SSD are still too high (if we talk above 500 gb). I am all for the cloud, but having to be constantly connected to work on my pictures is a pain. Let me store them on my mac! (For a decent price).
If anything apple has to increase storage on the mbp. Cloud is, at the moment, for more portable devices (iPad, iPhone and MBAir). The pro is a different league. Storage and performance are paramount not optionals or gimmicks...
I would think the real question is why you want to store all those photos on your laptop. If you are shooting so much at such a high res that storage is a problem then you should really be using a desktop class machine. That was the case before Retina and before SSDs also. A laptop is a horrible choice for keeping all your photos safe. At the very least you want a backup which means you have to regularly connect your laptop to something else like another computer or a giant hard drive to back it up. And all the time your laptop is away from this thing, you aren't backed up at all.
It would make more sense to me to dump the laptop and switch to an iPad that's connected and backed up to the cloud on a minute by minute basis. Then you won't have any storage or backup problems, your mobile gear will be much lighter and cheaper, and you can concentrate on just taking the pictures.
All a good photographer in the field needs is a device for taking the shots (camera), a review device (iPad), and the ability to send some of the pics off or make some colour corrections before doing so (again, the iPad is excellent for this). Alternatively, an iMac for your home, and a EyeFi card for the camera would be a better combination than your current setup also. If you have any "computing" needs in the field, an iPhone or again a cheap iPad would serve you better.
On the reasons why older mac book pros have to stay around:
- I am very passionate about photography, and have a very large collection of pictures shot in RAW with a DSLR.
Now. Of course I would die to have a retina mac. But I currently use the 17" mbp which has a huge difference in real estate to the 15".
Moreover I have a 750 GB HDD. Picture the price tag of that size on a SSD on a retina...
I could give up the real estate for a retina display. But I don't want a portable computer with an external drive constantly connected to it. It defies the purpose!
I think apple went all SSD too soon on the MacBook. Why not fusion drive? With the spare space from the ODD? The prices of SSD are still too high (if we talk above 500 gb). I am all for the cloud, but having to be constantly connected to work on my pictures is a pain. Let me store them on my mac! (For a decent price).
If anything apple has to increase storage on the mbp. Cloud is, at the moment, for more portable devices (iPad, iPhone and MBAir). The pro is a different league. Storage and performance are paramount not optionals or gimmicks...
1) I think Fusion Drive would have been more ideal and hope that Haswell allows them to adjust some things so they can add at least a single platter HDD to the MBPs. Those are only 5mm if I remember correctly.
2) You shoot in RAW but how many pictures are you loading on your machine at one time to edit? It sounds like you are saying you have a full 750GB HDD and you need to edit that much data worth of pics at a time. That seems quite excessive to me considering the capacities of a cards for DLSRs.
3) Doesn't that slow you down when having to read and write from an HDD as oppose to an SSD? I'd think a faster system all around to do work in would make you more productive. Of course, I'm saying this without being a photographer so perhaps RAW doesn't get any speed boost from an SSD over an HDD.
4) Is a 17" non-Retna MBP with a TN panel better for images than a 15" Retina MBP with an IPS panel? I'd think the latter is better overall. Why not use a large external display for edited images?
Because Mountain Lion likes to slow down after a while. (Eg boot times randomly going to 1:30 minutes from the usual 30 seconds. There are a lot of Mac people who do regular clean installs
I don't think this is true at all. It sounds like you need an SMC reset perhaps, or maybe your Spotlight index is corrupt, but you shouldn't have to re-install the OS.
Are you sticking with an older MBP or gong with the USB or TB-to-Ethernet dongle?
If WiFi isn't completely out of the question and the Ethernet you're plugging is designed to also with a IP phone then plugging in a small PoE wireless router could be a solution.
Because plugging a small PoE wireless router into a Future 1000 company's wired network will get a consultant escorted out the door.
Its not just Audio cds, Its watching DVDs, playing games, easily archiving stuff as a backup away from home (I don't want to waste money on a harddrive for it to sit at a relatives place) and because I have a laptop I don't want an external CD drive. As I said when I have money and upgrade in 4 years or so I probably won't even need an optical disk drive.
You're being ridiculous.
1) Watching DVDs? Just rip them! It's not illegal to rip a DVD in Australia for backup purposes, despite what you say.
2) Playing games? Why aren't you downloading games? Even if you're not, what game still requires the disc? Just use a NOCD patch if its that old
3) And, sorry to say, but if you're backing stuff up on discs, you might as well not back up at all. Go and get a 4TB HDD for $99 and use that. It'll last longer, it's cheaper, the data is safer, and it's quicker to backup. For someone who 'manages' PCs for a living, you seem to be stuck in 2003. How anyone is paying you for having such old-fashioned and inefficient processes is beyond me. Get with the times! Throw your discs out! They're a waste of time and money!
I bought last years model and I love mine. Some people need ethernet and an Optical drive. Apple would be alienating a lot of people if they got rid of the 13 inch classic pro, because believe it or not a lot of people like having ports and an Optical drive. Schools especially need the 13 Inch Macbook pro, or Apple needs to upgrade it and rename it the Macbook again.
Seeing as I was upgrading from a 2008 Plastic Macbook, the classic MB 13 inch was perfect. Optical drive, Upgradable RAM, Upgradable Harddrive and affordable. Both the air and the Pro retina are far too expesnive. There is no way that I could afford 8 GB of ram and a 750 GB Harddrive on either (I don't even think the SDD on the air goes up to 750 GB)
Apple is better than most companies at spotting trends from many years out, and it is in the business of moving in that direction, before the rest of the industry. In other words, they lead. For example, one trend is the move away from optical media--not just in computing, but for media distribution in general. It's not going to happen all at once, and not in every nation on Earth. There are countries with fantastic broadband adoption, and countries that are lagging, but the worldwide destination is clear. This is where the world is headed for mainstream digital content distribution. Optical media might be dead by the time the Xbox One and PS4 reach the end of their lifecycle (presumably by 2020).
From your other posts, you've been around long enough to experience this. Don't tell me you don't remember the floppy disk, or the double-speed CD-ROM drive. Or Firewire 400.
With all technology, there is an adoption curve, which is shaped like a bell curve. This is why when they launched the MBP Retina in 2012, it didn't immediately replace the classic MBP design. The 2012-2013 rMBP is for early adopters--people on the leading edge of the curve. It's not mainstream...yet (the tall hump in the curve). But give it time, and inevitable reduction in the cost of components (such as SSD and Retina LCDs), and customers will come around. We are in a transition period, which is why classic MBP is still on sale, and still getting upgrades. But the future direction is pretty clear.
So, be happy with your choice of the 13" MBP (classic). There's nothing wrong with it. You aren't an early adopter--and by strict definition--neither are most people. And there's nothing wrong with that. That isn't a pejorative description. It is your location on the adoption curve.
I don't think Apple will phase out the non-retina MBP without a replacement model in the same price range and no, the MBA is not it. The MBA was designed for a different use profile and th rMBP is just too expensive for school kids. The nrMBP is Apple's gateway machine, it would be utter foolishness for them to tun their back on a significant chunk of their market.
Yes, they will get right on that per your last minute request. Even though WWDC is a little over one week away, Apple with drop everything to make sure your request will be presented at the last second.
One could see the classic MBP become simply a MB and retained only as a 13 inch model whose primary audience is schools. We may have an indication of that with the recently reduced school pricing.
I don't think Apple will phase out the non-retina MBP without a replacement model in the same price range and no, the MBA is not it. The MBA was designed for a different use profile and th rMBP is just too expensive for school kids. The nrMBP is Apple's gateway machine, it would be utter foolishness for them to tun their back on a significant chunk of their market.
I think Apple is working to make everything Retinafied as soon as possible. I'd even say that in 3 years Mac OS X will only support Retina Macs.
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
I don't know a single person who has been happy about the lack of Optical Disk drive on Macs.... I use mine all the time for reading Audio Cds, Burning DVDs, Burning CDs with Data, Backup, Watching DVDs ect.
My point is why people want to kill this Mac? What is it doing- Its not Harming anyone. 3 of my friends bought the same Macbook as me last year (PC converts) as the retina Macbook is way too expensive for storage space.
1. And, consequently, I don't know a single person who does care about an optical drive in a laptop anymore. I know several people who bought a Macbook Air. See how analogies work? I also don't know a single person that does those things you do in the 1st paragraph, and it seems like you enjoy being stuck in the past even if it takes more effort and inconvenience to accomplish anything. Reading Audio CDs? Why not just rip them and never have to insert the CD again? You burn data and backup on DVDs? That's an utterly archaic method of backing up Data, and there are so many superior methods available. Watching DVDs? There's a reason DVD rental stores have pretty much all gone out of business. Using your niche use cases and that of a couple people you know is not evidence that there is "demand" for any of these things. Unless you can prove that millions of people are clamoring for the same thing, your point is moot. For the past 2 years, I haven't once encountered a situation where I needed or wanted to insert an optical disk into my computer- and I use it for many, many tasks. Every single thing you mention that you're using an optical drive for can be accomplished more efficiently and easily using a myriad of other methods, without the need for a bulky, noise, power-hungry, unreliable component that is obsolete.
This is the same story with every single technology that Apple retired, with people like ou whining that Apple is cutting out a massive portion of its customer base. And every single time Apple's sales and success have skyrocketed. What does that tell you?
2. "What is it doing- Its not Harming anyone."
It blows my mind that some people who claim to like Apple and have followed them for a while don't have a shred of insight about the philosophy of the company. From what you've seen, Apple is the type of company that just leaves its older products for sale because "they're not harming anyone?" Really? Why not just leave all their older models hanging around in the store? And yes, there are several ways it "harms" a company like Apple.
a. Makes the product line more complex, which Apple hates
b. Creates more customer confusion. Customers have to compare and contrast more models and makes a decision more difficult
c. Eats up manufacturing capability which can be used towards improving scale and efficiency of other products
d. Slows adoption of newer technologies that Apple wants to push people towards (SSD, etc)
e. Takes up extremely valuable retail shelf space
f. Takes up support resources, and adds more configurations that its software needs to run and be tested on
g. The optical and hard drives are by far the most unreliable and error prone component of any laptop. Since these are most likely to fail, overall would decrease satisfaction ratings
Etc. There's always "harm" in leaving older models for sales, especially for a company like Apple. You just need to think about it for a few seconds to realize what the harm is. Apple is known for it's relentless focus, simple product lines, and culling of older technologies to move things forward. Keeping these machines goes against all of that, and I for one hope they drop them at WWDC. I'm sure you can adapt if you updated your methods for this decade, like millions of others have. That makes more sense than demanding that Apple continue selling an older line of laptops which include technologies they've deprecated in every single other product.
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
Why is everyone so Anti the old Macbook Pro?
I bought last years model and I love mine. Some people need ethernet and an Optical drive. Apple would be alienating a lot of people if they got rid of the 13 inch classic pro, because believe it or not a lot of people like having ports and an Optical drive. Schools especially need the 13 Inch Macbook pro, or Apple needs to upgrade it and rename it the Macbook again.
Seeing as I was upgrading from a 2008 Plastic Macbook, the classic MB 13 inch was perfect. Optical drive, Upgradable RAM, Upgradable Harddrive and affordable. Both the air and the Pro retina are far too expesnive. There is no way that I could afford 8 GB of ram and a 750 GB Harddrive on either (I don't even think the SDD on the air goes up to 750 GB)
The Old MBP is an excellent machine. If you replace the DV drive with an SSD (and keep the DVD drive as an external drive) - it is an even better machine imo. Or if you need the optical drive in the machine, just upgrade the HD to an SSD. It is an awesome upgrade.
That's good to hear.
My local Apple store doesn't strike me as the kind that would replace an internal battery in house. Distance from a repair center could factor greatly in turnaround time, depending on how it is shipped.
Are you sticking with an older MBP or gong with the USB or TB-to-Ethernet dongle?
If WiFi isn't completely out of the question and the Ethernet you're plugging is designed to also with a IP phone then plugging in a small PoE wireless router could be a solution.
I can't say I've experience this with Mac OS, Windows 7 or Windows 8. Certainly not with Mountain Lion.
I've been saying this for years now, but it's time for Apple to completely abandon the ODD from all of it's products. It is useless, it is offensive, it is noisy, it is power hungry, it's not 100% reliable and it takes up valuable space. A forward thinking company like Apple can not continue to include such an obsolete atrocity in it's products.
I feel sorry for anybody who lives in the middle of nowhere without a decent internet connection and people who still travel to work using a horse and buggy, but human civilization must continue on, and technological progress can not be hindered just because of a few dinosaurs that still remain. High speed internet is simply a requirement for all modern computing needs. The majority should not be inconvenienced by an insignificant minority. You still use actual audio CD's and you still watch horrible quality DVD movies and you still back up to Disk like it's 1999? Well, just go out and buy an external drive. It is you that should be inconvenienced, because you have special needs.
Actually, you are in the minority.
The MBA sold well without an optical drive. The rMBP is selling like crazy - without an optical drive. One of the few highlights of the Windows PC market is Ultrabooks - you guessed it, without an optical drive.
If you hare having to reinstall ML regularly, you have a problem that you should fix. It could be that you've mucked it up with trojans or you're installing iffy software or perhaps it's a hardware problem, but there's no reason why ML should have to be reinstalled - ever.
- I am very passionate about photography, and have a very large collection of pictures shot in RAW with a DSLR.
Now. Of course I would die to have a retina mac. But I currently use the 17" mbp which has a huge difference in real estate to the 15".
Moreover I have a 750 GB HDD. Picture the price tag of that size on a SSD on a retina...
I could give up the real estate for a retina display. But I don't want a portable computer with an external drive constantly connected to it. It defies the purpose!
I think apple went all SSD too soon on the MacBook. Why not fusion drive? With the spare space from the ODD? The prices of SSD are still too high (if we talk above 500 gb). I am all for the cloud, but having to be constantly connected to work on my pictures is a pain. Let me store them on my mac! (For a decent price).
If anything apple has to increase storage on the mbp. Cloud is, at the moment, for more portable devices (iPad, iPhone and MBAir). The pro is a different league. Storage and performance are paramount not optionals or gimmicks...
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Originally Posted by pinolo
On the reasons why older mac book pros have to stay around:
- I am very passionate about photography, and have a very large collection of pictures shot in RAW with a DSLR.
Now. Of course I would die to have a retina mac. But I currently use the 17" mbp which has a huge difference in real estate to the 15".
Moreover I have a 750 GB HDD. Picture the price tag of that size on a SSD on a retina...
I could give up the real estate for a retina display. But I don't want a portable computer with an external drive constantly connected to it. It defies the purpose!
I think apple went all SSD too soon on the MacBook. Why not fusion drive? With the spare space from the ODD? The prices of SSD are still too high (if we talk above 500 gb). I am all for the cloud, but having to be constantly connected to work on my pictures is a pain. Let me store them on my mac! (For a decent price).
If anything apple has to increase storage on the mbp. Cloud is, at the moment, for more portable devices (iPad, iPhone and MBAir). The pro is a different league. Storage and performance are paramount not optionals or gimmicks...
I would think the real question is why you want to store all those photos on your laptop. If you are shooting so much at such a high res that storage is a problem then you should really be using a desktop class machine. That was the case before Retina and before SSDs also. A laptop is a horrible choice for keeping all your photos safe. At the very least you want a backup which means you have to regularly connect your laptop to something else like another computer or a giant hard drive to back it up. And all the time your laptop is away from this thing, you aren't backed up at all.
It would make more sense to me to dump the laptop and switch to an iPad that's connected and backed up to the cloud on a minute by minute basis. Then you won't have any storage or backup problems, your mobile gear will be much lighter and cheaper, and you can concentrate on just taking the pictures.
All a good photographer in the field needs is a device for taking the shots (camera), a review device (iPad), and the ability to send some of the pics off or make some colour corrections before doing so (again, the iPad is excellent for this). Alternatively, an iMac for your home, and a EyeFi card for the camera would be a better combination than your current setup also. If you have any "computing" needs in the field, an iPhone or again a cheap iPad would serve you better.
1) I think Fusion Drive would have been more ideal and hope that Haswell allows them to adjust some things so they can add at least a single platter HDD to the MBPs. Those are only 5mm if I remember correctly.
2) You shoot in RAW but how many pictures are you loading on your machine at one time to edit? It sounds like you are saying you have a full 750GB HDD and you need to edit that much data worth of pics at a time. That seems quite excessive to me considering the capacities of a cards for DLSRs.
3) Doesn't that slow you down when having to read and write from an HDD as oppose to an SSD? I'd think a faster system all around to do work in would make you more productive. Of course, I'm saying this without being a photographer so perhaps RAW doesn't get any speed boost from an SSD over an HDD.
4) Is a 17" non-Retna MBP with a TN panel better for images than a 15" Retina MBP with an IPS panel? I'd think the latter is better overall. Why not use a large external display for edited images?
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
Because Mountain Lion likes to slow down after a while. (Eg boot times randomly going to 1:30 minutes from the usual 30 seconds. There are a lot of Mac people who do regular clean installs
I don't think this is true at all. It sounds like you need an SMC reset perhaps, or maybe your Spotlight index is corrupt, but you shouldn't have to re-install the OS.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Are you sticking with an older MBP or gong with the USB or TB-to-Ethernet dongle?
If WiFi isn't completely out of the question and the Ethernet you're plugging is designed to also with a IP phone then plugging in a small PoE wireless router could be a solution.
Because plugging a small PoE wireless router into a Future 1000 company's wired network will get a consultant escorted out the door.
You're being ridiculous.
1) Watching DVDs? Just rip them! It's not illegal to rip a DVD in Australia for backup purposes, despite what you say.
2) Playing games? Why aren't you downloading games? Even if you're not, what game still requires the disc? Just use a NOCD patch if its that old
3) And, sorry to say, but if you're backing stuff up on discs, you might as well not back up at all. Go and get a 4TB HDD for $99 and use that. It'll last longer, it's cheaper, the data is safer, and it's quicker to backup. For someone who 'manages' PCs for a living, you seem to be stuck in 2003. How anyone is paying you for having such old-fashioned and inefficient processes is beyond me. Get with the times! Throw your discs out! They're a waste of time and money!
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Originally Posted by oldmacs
Why is everyone so Anti the old Macbook Pro?
I bought last years model and I love mine. Some people need ethernet and an Optical drive. Apple would be alienating a lot of people if they got rid of the 13 inch classic pro, because believe it or not a lot of people like having ports and an Optical drive. Schools especially need the 13 Inch Macbook pro, or Apple needs to upgrade it and rename it the Macbook again.
Seeing as I was upgrading from a 2008 Plastic Macbook, the classic MB 13 inch was perfect. Optical drive, Upgradable RAM, Upgradable Harddrive and affordable. Both the air and the Pro retina are far too expesnive. There is no way that I could afford 8 GB of ram and a 750 GB Harddrive on either (I don't even think the SDD on the air goes up to 750 GB)
Apple is better than most companies at spotting trends from many years out, and it is in the business of moving in that direction, before the rest of the industry. In other words, they lead. For example, one trend is the move away from optical media--not just in computing, but for media distribution in general. It's not going to happen all at once, and not in every nation on Earth. There are countries with fantastic broadband adoption, and countries that are lagging, but the worldwide destination is clear. This is where the world is headed for mainstream digital content distribution. Optical media might be dead by the time the Xbox One and PS4 reach the end of their lifecycle (presumably by 2020).
From your other posts, you've been around long enough to experience this. Don't tell me you don't remember the floppy disk, or the double-speed CD-ROM drive. Or Firewire 400.
With all technology, there is an adoption curve, which is shaped like a bell curve. This is why when they launched the MBP Retina in 2012, it didn't immediately replace the classic MBP design. The 2012-2013 rMBP is for early adopters--people on the leading edge of the curve. It's not mainstream...yet (the tall hump in the curve). But give it time, and inevitable reduction in the cost of components (such as SSD and Retina LCDs), and customers will come around. We are in a transition period, which is why classic MBP is still on sale, and still getting upgrades. But the future direction is pretty clear.
So, be happy with your choice of the 13" MBP (classic). There's nothing wrong with it. You aren't an early adopter--and by strict definition--neither are most people. And there's nothing wrong with that. That isn't a pejorative description. It is your location on the adoption curve.
Yes, they will get right on that per your last minute request. Even though WWDC is a little over one week away, Apple with drop everything to make sure your request will be presented at the last second.
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Originally Posted by AppleZilla
Please announce a new 15-inch too, Apple.
I think Apple is working to make everything Retinafied as soon as possible. I'd even say that in 3 years Mac OS X will only support Retina Macs.