The weather app looks nice but until they add hour-by-hour forecast and actual radar maps it's still completely worthless to me. I don't know about where everyone else lives but it can be totally sunny and hot the same day there's a torrential downpour so I'd like to be able to see what time that is and be able to look at radar. I guess I'm stuck with TWC until someone else decides that people who are interested in more than just "what's it doing right now" deserve a useful app.
Just a note: I use the "Rain Alarm" app on both iOS and Android. It notifies you when rain is close by or headed your way, and you can then open it and look at the animated radar to check. Very handy.
The weather app looks nice but until they add hour-by-hour forecast and actual radar maps it's still completely worthless to me. I don't know about where everyone else lives but it can be totally sunny and hot the same day there's a torrential downpour so I'd like to be able to see what time that is and be able to look at radar. I guess I'm stuck with TWC until someone else decides that people who are interested in more than just "what's it doing right now" deserve a useful app.
The color scheme they showed off does have a distinct Samsung feel to it but it felt like a massively refined Samsung which, well, that's what Apple is best at. Taking the status-quo and ratcheting it up a few notches.
The Weather app has hourly forecasts for the current day.
The weather app looks nice but until they add hour-by-hour forecast and actual radar maps it's still completely worthless to me. I don't know about where everyone else lives but it can be totally sunny and hot the same day there's a torrential downpour so I'd like to be able to see what time that is and be able to look at radar. I guess I'm stuck with TWC until someone else decides that people who are interested in more than just "what's it doing right now" deserve a useful app.
The color scheme they showed off does have a distinct Samsung feel to it but it felt like a massively refined Samsung which, well, that's what Apple is best at. Taking the status-quo and ratcheting it up a few notches.
That's why there's apps for all that. The OS would become a big sluggish mess if they incorporated every single idea one can come up with.
Do the iOS app icon changes create a perceptual experience chasm between OS X and iOS, Mac and iDevices?
The new design and UI elements of iOS are a thoughtful approach to 1) tightening the perceptual seams between the hardware and software of iOS devices and 2) giving the content more breathing room for the relatively small space iOS screens afford. Elegant hardware meets elegant software. The app icons reflect this.
However, the lack of app icon consistency between the iOS and OS X does concern me. Namely because the direction has always been to make the Apple experience seamless between devices ... hardware is born from the same design philosophy and iCloud keeps all devices in sync. But different icons for the same apps on iOS and OS X seem to interfere and fragment the Apple experience and ecosystem selling point at the perceptual level.
Standalone, I feel the iOS app icons work. Within a cross-platform point of view, I am not sure. Would like to hear opinions.
That's why there's apps for all that. The OS would become a big sluggish mess if they incorporated every single idea one can come up with.
They get their weather from Yahoo by way of The Weather Channel. They could have a little radar button on the corner that took you to Weather Channel's radar view.
But no doubt- if they put in EVERY idea, it would be absolutely terrible. Kind of like Android.
They wanted minimal styling, which I get, but it takes away the power behind the screen resolution and retina display. Somewhere in between what they showed and what it is now would have been better.
I'm reading the posts and I can't believe what people are saying. You really think this looks great? You really believe this is a huge improvement? I'm currently looking at my iPhone 4 and the pictures posted in the story.. I'm just not seeing it. This looks just as plain and boring as my current phone. How on earth is this an improvement? Flat? Square? Plain? what on earth is so good about this? I'm seriously at a loss... This must be a big joke!
It's windows are "flat" as in 2-dimensional in order to create a 4D UI environment - which is actually represented in 3D on a 2D screen. The flat 2D windows actually represent 3D "worlds". Since we physically interact in 3D space, we must represent 3D objects in a 4D universe in the flatness of two dimensions just to be able to make the slightest understanding of extra dimensional theoretical 4D space we must imagine as layered space.
I think that was an iPhone 5S (or 6 possibly). The new OS is oozing of hints of new hardware features. The background effect will and can be done with the current set of sensors of current models for backwards compatibility, but would work more accurately and effectively with new additional sensor features that track movement. Also, the weather app hints at new weather related sensors as well. The new Mac is telling of wireless AC inclusion in the iPhone 5S and new iPads as well. The OS design also hints at some bevel or edge touch sensors possibility as well. I can see the iPhone and iPad future generations getting bigger screens, being thinner and lighter, blending perfectly with the new UI design.
Do the iOS app icon changes create a perceptual experience chasm between OS X and iOS, Mac and iDevices?
The new design and UI elements of iOS are a thoughtful approach to 1) tightening the perceptual seams between the hardware and software of iOS devices and 2) giving the content more breathing room for the relatively small space iOS screens afford. Elegant hardware meets elegant software. The app icons reflect this.
However, the lack of app icon consistency between the iOS and OS X does concern me. Namely because the direction has always been to make the Apple experience seamless between devices ... hardware is born from the same design philosophy and iCloud keeps all devices in sync. But different icons for the same apps on iOS and OS X seem to interfere and fragment the Apple experience and ecosystem selling point at the perceptual level.
Standalone, I feel the iOS app icons work. Within a cross-platform point of view, I am not sure. Would like to hear opinions.
iOS 7 is probably a sneak preview of what OS XI will look like.
Apple was smart not to change both drastically this year. iOS 7 will give pros time to get used to Apple's new look in time for OS XI.
They wanted minimal styling, which I get, but it takes away the power behind the screen resolution and retina display. Somewhere in between what they showed and what it is now would have been better.
I think I can agree with this. Apple could have gotten the same new "wow" effect by keeping the old icon designs and placing them into the new layered glass framework.
The old icons just needed the gloss layer removed and they would have been ready to go for iOS 7.
I've reached out to Apple, but it remains to be seen if anyone is listening.
I agree that this is all fixable. I'm concerned about the brand damage it will do for them to publicly showcase this design as is, and then to change it. But I am more concerned about what may happen if they do not; I am very convinced that if they don't change these core issues surrounding font clarity and contrast, this is going to ultimately work against them.
If they can recover from Maps (not a beta) then they can recover from one or two inconsistencies in an iOS beta. They're not going to make any major design changes because there's no need to.
From what I've seen, I like it a lot.
My only two beefs are the Safari icon (looks like it was scribbled) and the Game Center icon (the 3D bubbles don't really tell me what it is inconsistent with the flat look of the other icons).
I think folk need to remember that this not the final release.
Buried on the design page. Not exactly obvious now is it.
That's an excuse in exactly zero ways. Why people think they can talk about a product when they haven't even GONE TO THE WEBSITE ABOUT IT is beyond me.
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Um.... I could be wrong, but I understood the one in the middle -- "no icons labeled" -- as the ones you choose to put in there. Assuming you know what you're doing....
I could have sworn those are static.
Originally Posted by hentaiboy
Can we take Sir Jony's knighthood back now?
Straight from the Hello Kitty design manual
Man, you're just stupid.
Originally Posted by Rogifan
Well the design snobs at the Verge have spoken and call iOS 7 simply confusing.
They would say that; none of them have used it.
Originally Posted by boyan
does anyone know where i can get that blue bubbly wallpaper..?? thanks
It'll be included in iOS 7, and there's already a dark blue bokeh in shipping iOS'.
iOS 7 looks great, and it will DEFINITELY make me take a very close look at getting an iPhone when I upgrade in a few months.
There's plenty to be excited about in iOS 7, but some of the comments I've read about it being "innovative" or "revolutionary" are over the top, as most of those features existed in some form or fashion on other platforms beforehand.
Well, if I have to pick what it should look more like, I'd go with iOS6. Easy answer there. I didn't relish the skeumorphism but I didn't hate it the way many people did. What bothers me about 7 isn't so much the icons (though I think they're much worse than before) but the apps -- particularly the text-based apps such as Mail and Calendar. The graphical look of Mail is so stripped bare that it could have been designed in Microsoft Word. I guess that appeals to some people, but not to me. And I just can't stand that ultrathin Helvetica Neue font or whatever it is. It feels very un-Apple to me.
I am really disappointed in the initial images of the new look. I am a huge Apple fan, but this new look lacks the beauty of the current IOS. I know others have mentioned this but it very much looks like a copy of Android.
Another new joiner. Starting to think they're all the same person.
To think, the background is only as "boring" as the picture YOU choose to put there.
Apple can't help it if your life is so meaningless and "boring" you can't think of anything likeable you'd put there.
Man, the civility level on AppleInsider forums is low even by internet discussion standards. My complaint about the white background wasn't about the home screen but about the apps themselves, such as Mail or Calendar or Messages. I'd be delighted if Apple allows me to customize it to my boring, meaningless life, but somehow I don't think that's forthcoming.
You clearly hit your head sometime in the interim or just weren't around for System 8. Though it could be said the pinstriping in 10.1 was, well…
What's the point of this reply, exactly? I get that you strongly disagree with my strong dislike for iOS7. Replying that nobody cares and claiming that people who disagree with you must have brain damage is just... odd.
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Originally Posted by bigmc6000
The weather app looks nice but until they add hour-by-hour forecast and actual radar maps it's still completely worthless to me. I don't know about where everyone else lives but it can be totally sunny and hot the same day there's a torrential downpour so I'd like to be able to see what time that is and be able to look at radar. I guess I'm stuck with TWC until someone else decides that people who are interested in more than just "what's it doing right now" deserve a useful app.
Just a note: I use the "Rain Alarm" app on both iOS and Android. It notifies you when rain is close by or headed your way, and you can then open it and look at the animated radar to check. Very handy.
The Weather app has hourly forecasts for the current day.
That's why there's apps for all that. The OS would become a big sluggish mess if they incorporated every single idea one can come up with.
The new design and UI elements of iOS are a thoughtful approach to 1) tightening the perceptual seams between the hardware and software of iOS devices and 2) giving the content more breathing room for the relatively small space iOS screens afford. Elegant hardware meets elegant software. The app icons reflect this.
However, the lack of app icon consistency between the iOS and OS X does concern me. Namely because the direction has always been to make the Apple experience seamless between devices ... hardware is born from the same design philosophy and iCloud keeps all devices in sync. But different icons for the same apps on iOS and OS X seem to interfere and fragment the Apple experience and ecosystem selling point at the perceptual level.
Standalone, I feel the iOS app icons work. Within a cross-platform point of view, I am not sure. Would like to hear opinions.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Ever gone a post without trolling? Hint: our answers aren't the same.
Given that my question wasn't trolling, sadly you've merely validated the question.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
That's why there's apps for all that. The OS would become a big sluggish mess if they incorporated every single idea one can come up with.
They get their weather from Yahoo by way of The Weather Channel. They could have a little radar button on the corner that took you to Weather Channel's radar view.
But no doubt- if they put in EVERY idea, it would be absolutely terrible. Kind of like Android.
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Originally Posted by billnyc
Do the iOS app icon changes create a perceptual experience chasm between OS X and iOS, Mac and iDevices?
The new design and UI elements of iOS are a thoughtful approach to 1) tightening the perceptual seams between the hardware and software of iOS devices and 2) giving the content more breathing room for the relatively small space iOS screens afford. Elegant hardware meets elegant software. The app icons reflect this.
However, the lack of app icon consistency between the iOS and OS X does concern me. Namely because the direction has always been to make the Apple experience seamless between devices ... hardware is born from the same design philosophy and iCloud keeps all devices in sync. But different icons for the same apps on iOS and OS X seem to interfere and fragment the Apple experience and ecosystem selling point at the perceptual level.
Standalone, I feel the iOS app icons work. Within a cross-platform point of view, I am not sure. Would like to hear opinions.
iOS 7 is probably a sneak preview of what OS XI will look like.
Apple was smart not to change both drastically this year. iOS 7 will give pros time to get used to Apple's new look in time for OS XI.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMc73
They wanted minimal styling, which I get, but it takes away the power behind the screen resolution and retina display. Somewhere in between what they showed and what it is now would have been better.
I think I can agree with this. Apple could have gotten the same new "wow" effect by keeping the old icon designs and placing them into the new layered glass framework.
The old icons just needed the gloss layer removed and they would have been ready to go for iOS 7.
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Originally Posted by tt92618
I've reached out to Apple, but it remains to be seen if anyone is listening.
I agree that this is all fixable. I'm concerned about the brand damage it will do for them to publicly showcase this design as is, and then to change it. But I am more concerned about what may happen if they do not; I am very convinced that if they don't change these core issues surrounding font clarity and contrast, this is going to ultimately work against them.
If they can recover from Maps (not a beta) then they can recover from one or two inconsistencies in an iOS beta. They're not going to make any major design changes because there's no need to.
From what I've seen, I like it a lot.
My only two beefs are the Safari icon (looks like it was scribbled) and the Game Center icon (the 3D bubbles don't really tell me what it is inconsistent with the flat look of the other icons).
I think folk need to remember that this not the final release.
Originally Posted by CustomTB
Buried on the design page. Not exactly obvious now is it.
That's an excuse in exactly zero ways. Why people think they can talk about a product when they haven't even GONE TO THE WEBSITE ABOUT IT is beyond me.
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Um.... I could be wrong, but I understood the one in the middle -- "no icons labeled" -- as the ones you choose to put in there. Assuming you know what you're doing....
I could have sworn those are static.
Originally Posted by hentaiboy
Can we take Sir Jony's knighthood back now?
Straight from the Hello Kitty design manual
Man, you're just stupid.
Originally Posted by Rogifan
Well the design snobs at the Verge have spoken and call iOS 7 simply confusing.
They would say that; none of them have used it.
Originally Posted by boyan
does anyone know where i can get that blue bubbly wallpaper..??
It'll be included in iOS 7, and there's already a dark blue bokeh in shipping iOS'.
iOS 7 looks great, and it will DEFINITELY make me take a very close look at getting an iPhone when I upgrade in a few months.
There's plenty to be excited about in iOS 7, but some of the comments I've read about it being "innovative" or "revolutionary" are over the top, as most of those features existed in some form or fashion on other platforms beforehand.
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
I'll bite the bait
So... What should iOS 7 look more like?
Well, if I have to pick what it should look more like, I'd go with iOS6. Easy answer there. I didn't relish the skeumorphism but I didn't hate it the way many people did. What bothers me about 7 isn't so much the icons (though I think they're much worse than before) but the apps -- particularly the text-based apps such as Mail and Calendar. The graphical look of Mail is so stripped bare that it could have been designed in Microsoft Word. I guess that appeals to some people, but not to me. And I just can't stand that ultrathin Helvetica Neue font or whatever it is. It feels very un-Apple to me.
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Originally Posted by dlees
I am really disappointed in the initial images of the new look. I am a huge Apple fan, but this new look lacks the beauty of the current IOS. I know others have mentioned this but it very much looks like a copy of Android.
Another new joiner. Starting to think they're all the same person.
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Originally Posted by hill60
To think, the background is only as "boring" as the picture YOU choose to put there.
Apple can't help it if your life is so meaningless and "boring" you can't think of anything likeable you'd put there.
Man, the civility level on AppleInsider forums is low even by internet discussion standards. My complaint about the white background wasn't about the home screen but about the apps themselves, such as Mail or Calendar or Messages. I'd be delighted if Apple allows me to customize it to my boring, meaningless life, but somehow I don't think that's forthcoming.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yeah, we do.
Literally no one cares.
Enjoy missing out willfully.
You clearly hit your head sometime in the interim or just weren't around for System 8. Though it could be said the pinstriping in 10.1 was, well…
What's the point of this reply, exactly? I get that you strongly disagree with my strong dislike for iOS7. Replying that nobody cares and claiming that people who disagree with you must have brain damage is just... odd.
Mmm such a fiery temper. It's kind of turning me on.
As you asked, I did my own fxcking homework and determined that have contributed only well-reasoned arguments throughout my entire time here.