This is the first I've heard of any type of widespread early failure for the Nexus 7. Interesting that it's coming from an Apple site. I've had a nexus 7 since very shortly after the launch and have never had any problem with it.
I didn't realize "AndroidAndMe" was an Apple site? That's kind of an odd name, don't you agree?
I just don't know if Dilger's articles can even be believed due his track record of exceedingly partisan Apple fanboyism.
Any other sources that corroborate these claims?
Read it at the source: ... wrote Dustin Early for AndroidAndMe in an editorial titled, "One year later, the Nexus 7 has gone from the best to worst tablet I?ve ever owned."
Now if this were to happen to an iPad, journalists would have a hay day and stock prices would drop. Asus, Google? Have to wait to see but I suspect the maker of its infamous OS rushes some new dangled report on magic zippers that zip themselves and protect against temperature drops intuitively; subject changed, innovation lorded by the pundits and all is well in the land of Google. Asus, not so sure the scenario—seems it has had some rough press of late. /s
Now he says it's "just a shell of its former self," and called the device "an embarrassment to Google."
I doubt it embarrasses Google - Android and the Nexus aren't important to Google. That's why they sell them at break-even. They are just conduits for their services. They'd sell toilet paper if they could get some ads on it. I wonder what they'd offer if I pitched that as a business plan. Nobody seems to have thought to put ads there. Every wipe you'll be thinking 'i can't believe that stay at home mum earns $6000 a month and for some reason dermatologists HATE her'. I suppose they'd have trouble tracking impressions.
Well two years is outside the Nexus 7's factory warranty period, correct?
Yeah and you can't even buy a second one without topping the iPad mini price. What's really interesting is if you deduct a 40% gross margin from the iPad mini price, it costs the same as the Nexus 7 so Apple is building a higher quality tablet for the same costs Google has. That's probably why Apple said from the iPad launch that others would really struggle to compete.
Microsoft seems to be following a similar no-profit strategy. It's so funny that they are essentially giving the tablets away at cost and they still can't outsell the iPad.
While the Nexus 7 examples sound far worse, my iPad 3 is notably lagging more than when I bought it. My past iPhones have got less responsive with time too.
Apple aren't immune to degrading hardware, or hardware that doesn't meet the increasing demands of the software that runs on it.
This is a common misconception of "lag". There is a perceived lag in everything you own once you become familiar with it. When something is new there's a natural tendency to be much more patient as you learn the ins and outs. Once you master it, you're more likely to "run" into something that's not getting out of the way faster than you expect or want it to.
I have an original iPad and it still runs fairly well, but it sure feels slow. Slower than I remember, but the fact is, I can't remember how slow it ran when I originally got it and there's nothing to compare it with. Instead what happened is I started comparing it to how fast stuff worked on my newer iPhones. And it really does seem like the iPad has gotten slower and slower with each new iPhone I've purchased.
A more extreme example... When I got my Mac SE, it was the greatest computer I ever owned, not once did I ever notice any kind of lag. I boot that sucker up today and I can't believe I was able to get anything done on it!? It is ridiculously slow compared to today's computers, but it still runs exactly as it did then.
Read it at the source: ... wrote Dustin Early for AndroidAndMe in an editorial titled, "One year later, the Nexus 7 has gone from the best to worst tablet I?ve ever owned."
This is the first I've heard of any type of widespread early failure for the Nexus 7. Interesting that it's coming from an Apple site. I've had a nexus 7 since very shortly after the launch and have never had any problem with it.
I have many many accounts of premature battery mortality. I grant this can happen with any device but the Nexus 7 seems very prone to a 1 year old device having a battery that will maintain a 20 minute of less charge. Personally, this does not surprise me given the price. Something HAS to give. There is no magic. Cheaper Flash leads to greater potential read/write failures resulting in slower performance. Cheaper battery leads to lower number of charge cycles/shorter potential longevity.
In short, it is a good $200 tablet. It is not a $400 or $600 tablet.
I have many many accounts of premature battery mortality. I grant this can happen with any device but the Nexus 7 seems very prone to a 1 year old device having a battery that will maintain a 20 minute of less charge. Personally, this does not surprise me given the price. Something HAS to give. There is no magic. Cheaper Flash leads to greater potential read/write failures resulting in slower performance. Cheaper battery leads to lower number of charge cycles/shorter potential longevity.
In short, it is a good $200 tablet. It is not a $400 or $600 tablet.
This is the first I've heard of any type of widespread early failure for the Nexus 7. Interesting that it's coming from an Apple site. I've had a nexus 7 since very shortly after the launch and have never had any problem with it.
I believe the source material for the article originated on an Android forum.
I have many many accounts of premature battery mortality. I grant this can happen with any device but the Nexus 7 seems very prone to a 1 year old device having a battery that will maintain a 20 minute of less charge. Personally, this does not surprise me given the price. Something HAS to give. There is no magic. Cheaper Flash leads to greater potential read/write failures resulting in slower performance. Cheaper battery leads to lower number of charge cycles/shorter potential longevity.
In short, it is a good $200 tablet. It is not a $400 or $600 tablet.
If something is prone to failing after just a year of use it doesn't to be good at any price... jmho.
This is a common misconception of "lag". There is a perceived lag in everything you own once you become familiar with it. When something is new there's a natural tendency to be much more patient as you learn the ins and outs. Once you master it, you're more likely to "run" into something that's not getting out of the way faster than you expect or want it to.
I have an original iPad and it still runs fairly well, but it sure feels slow. Slower than I remember, but the fact is, I can't remember how slow it ran when I originally got it and there's nothing to compare it with. Instead what happened is I started comparing it to how fast stuff worked on my newer iPhones. And it really does seem like the iPad has gotten slower and slower with each new iPhone I've purchased.
A more extreme example... When I got my Mac SE, it was the greatest computer I ever owned, not once did I ever notice any kind of lag. I boot that sucker up today and I can't believe I was able to get anything done on it!? It is ridiculously slow compared to today's computers, but it still runs exactly as it did then.
I get what you are saying, but the Nexus 7 is only a year or so old. Plus, people are saying this without another reference point to compare it to.
Tablet of the Year, Gadget of the Year, [B]Scam of the Year[/B]. There' a worthy headline in thar.
"And while a more critical review noted that 'Google apps run better on the iPad Mini than the Nexus 7,' CNET found it newsworthy that its 'reader poll' favored the Nexus 7 over the iPad mini by a significant margin." Hellooooo, to the Brain Dead!
And anyone who assails the Man of Integrity, DED himself, (of course) deserves immediate call out for Blocking. Four, or is it five from this article. And another that has one more chance-only because he appers to be polite about it; dang my sense of fairness!
The water closet that holds all spammers is getting awful full.
Addendum: joy! Another troll, the usual first timer to the deep latrine. Oh, the humanity. Addendum2: and another troll to the little girl's room. So many treats today 'tis like a second Christmas. :smokey: Addendum3: fair is fair, I must give JS2 another chance via his #7 post and that he got the date order of the beloved iPad mini and Nexus 7 releases correct. There's integrity in what he posts; that dang fairness gene sure gets in the way of "life's little pleasures". I blame my dad.
Tablet of the Year, Gadget of the Year, Scam of the Year. There' a worthy headline in thar.
"And while a more critical review noted that 'Google apps run better on the iPad Mini than the Nexus 7,' CNET found it newsworthy that its 'reader poll' favored the Nexus 7 over the iPad mini by a significant margin." Hellooooo, to the Brain Dead!
CNet said that before the iPad Mini had even been released. Anyone who pays attention to CNet deserves what they get.
I believe the source material for the article originated on an Android forum.
Yes it did and if he had read the article he is commenting on he would know smog of the quotes are from Android sites. I know a die hard Android user who has always praised his Nexus 7 to the skies and when I sent him this article he said it is happening to him too.
While the Nexus 7 examples sound far worse, my iPad 3 is notably lagging more than when I bought it. My past iPhones have got less responsive with time too.
Apple aren't immune to degrading hardware, or hardware that doesn't meet the increasing demands of the software that runs on it.
Except a reset will fix that on an iPad or iPhone but not on a Nexus 7.
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Originally Posted by Neo42
This is the first I've heard of any type of widespread early failure for the Nexus 7. Interesting that it's coming from an Apple site. I've had a nexus 7 since very shortly after the launch and have never had any problem with it.
I didn't realize "AndroidAndMe" was an Apple site? That's kind of an odd name, don't you agree?
Read it at the source: ... wrote Dustin Early for AndroidAndMe in an editorial titled, "One year later, the Nexus 7 has gone from the best to worst tablet I?ve ever owned."
Don't let your Apple hate hit you on the way out.
/s
Navigating the warranty is more challenging than navigating Android itself. I truly can't find the length of the warranty.
Who fixes Nexus 7 other than a fly-by-night repair shop?
https://play.google.com/intl/en_us/about/device-terms.html
http://support.asus.com/warranty.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Nexus 7
I'm sure he'll find at least one (scroll through the following thread to find out who - note the videos showing bad lag even on stock devices):
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/156800/google-preps-revamped-nexus-7-to-take-on-ipad-mini#post_2304903
I doubt it embarrasses Google - Android and the Nexus aren't important to Google. That's why they sell them at break-even. They are just conduits for their services. They'd sell toilet paper if they could get some ads on it. I wonder what they'd offer if I pitched that as a business plan. Nobody seems to have thought to put ads there. Every wipe you'll be thinking 'i can't believe that stay at home mum earns $6000 a month and for some reason dermatologists HATE her'. I suppose they'd have trouble tracking impressions.
Yeah and you can't even buy a second one without topping the iPad mini price. What's really interesting is if you deduct a 40% gross margin from the iPad mini price, it costs the same as the Nexus 7 so Apple is building a higher quality tablet for the same costs Google has. That's probably why Apple said from the iPad launch that others would really struggle to compete.
Microsoft seems to be following a similar no-profit strategy. It's so funny that they are essentially giving the tablets away at cost and they still can't outsell the iPad.
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Originally Posted by Crowley
While the Nexus 7 examples sound far worse, my iPad 3 is notably lagging more than when I bought it. My past iPhones have got less responsive with time too.
Apple aren't immune to degrading hardware, or hardware that doesn't meet the increasing demands of the software that runs on it.
This is a common misconception of "lag". There is a perceived lag in everything you own once you become familiar with it. When something is new there's a natural tendency to be much more patient as you learn the ins and outs. Once you master it, you're more likely to "run" into something that's not getting out of the way faster than you expect or want it to.
I have an original iPad and it still runs fairly well, but it sure feels slow. Slower than I remember, but the fact is, I can't remember how slow it ran when I originally got it and there's nothing to compare it with. Instead what happened is I started comparing it to how fast stuff worked on my newer iPhones. And it really does seem like the iPad has gotten slower and slower with each new iPhone I've purchased.
A more extreme example... When I got my Mac SE, it was the greatest computer I ever owned, not once did I ever notice any kind of lag. I boot that sucker up today and I can't believe I was able to get anything done on it!? It is ridiculously slow compared to today's computers, but it still runs exactly as it did then.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Read it at the source: ... wrote Dustin Early for AndroidAndMe in an editorial titled, "One year later, the Nexus 7 has gone from the best to worst tablet I?ve ever owned."
Don't let your Apple hate hit you on the way out.
SpamSandwich... Apple hate??!!?
Hahahahahahaahahaha... that's really funny.
I guess you haven't been here that long.
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Originally Posted by Neo42
This is the first I've heard of any type of widespread early failure for the Nexus 7. Interesting that it's coming from an Apple site. I've had a nexus 7 since very shortly after the launch and have never had any problem with it.
I have many many accounts of premature battery mortality. I grant this can happen with any device but the Nexus 7 seems very prone to a 1 year old device having a battery that will maintain a 20 minute of less charge. Personally, this does not surprise me given the price. Something HAS to give. There is no magic. Cheaper Flash leads to greater potential read/write failures resulting in slower performance. Cheaper battery leads to lower number of charge cycles/shorter potential longevity.
In short, it is a good $200 tablet. It is not a $400 or $600 tablet.
I thought that comment sounded... odd.
It's not even a good $329 tablet.
I believe the source material for the article originated on an Android forum.
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Originally Posted by DroidFTW
Sounds like Asus needs to get their s**t together.
Nah, then they'll raise the prices.
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Originally Posted by Steven N.
I have many many accounts of premature battery mortality. I grant this can happen with any device but the Nexus 7 seems very prone to a 1 year old device having a battery that will maintain a 20 minute of less charge. Personally, this does not surprise me given the price. Something HAS to give. There is no magic. Cheaper Flash leads to greater potential read/write failures resulting in slower performance. Cheaper battery leads to lower number of charge cycles/shorter potential longevity.
In short, it is a good $200 tablet. It is not a $400 or $600 tablet.
If something is prone to failing after just a year of use it doesn't to be good at any price... jmho.
I get what you are saying, but the Nexus 7 is only a year or so old. Plus, people are saying this without another reference point to compare it to.
No, July.
It's been my primary computing device since then and I've been satisfied with it. Guess I'm lucky.
"And while a more critical review noted that 'Google apps run better on the iPad Mini than the Nexus 7,' CNET found it newsworthy that its 'reader poll' favored the Nexus 7 over the iPad mini by a significant margin." Hellooooo, to the Brain Dead!
And anyone who assails the Man of Integrity, DED himself, (of course) deserves immediate call out for Blocking. Four, or is it five from this article.
The water closet that holds all spammers is getting awful full.
Addendum: joy! Another troll, the usual first timer to the deep latrine. Oh, the humanity.
Addendum2: and another troll to the little girl's room. So many treats today 'tis like a second Christmas. :smokey:
Addendum3: fair is fair, I must give JS2 another chance via his #7 post and that he got the date order of the beloved iPad mini and Nexus 7 releases correct. There's integrity in what he posts; that dang fairness gene sure gets in the way of "life's little pleasures".
CNet said that before the iPad Mini had even been released. Anyone who pays attention to CNet deserves what they get.
I can't find the link to the 'article' citing all of these problems within this post. Can someone help me, please?
Yes it did and if he had read the article he is commenting on he would know smog of the quotes are from Android sites. I know a die hard Android user who has always praised his Nexus 7 to the skies and when I sent him this article he said it is happening to him too.
Except a reset will fix that on an iPad or iPhone but not on a Nexus 7.