Let me rephrase, why should Apple cater to them? There isn't a $300 Mac, there won't be a <$300 iPhone, off contract. That said, there may be a 300-400 iPhone, off contract.
Let me rephrase, why should Apple cater to them? There isn't a $300 Mac, there won't be a <$300 iPhone, off contract. That said, there may be a 300-400 iPhone, off contract.
I agree. Google sells the Nexus 4 direct for as low as $299. Apple's unlikely to go lower for a phone that's probably more expensive to produce (plus they like margins). Apple's brand can support premium pricing. I would guess no lower than $399.
We've been over this a million times. iPhone is the gateway product. If they can make a cheaper but solid phone for less without hurting margins, that's great. They have a big history of this very thing with the iPod line.
I don't know if they can swing this. But I'd love to see this new phone become the "iPhone" with the current style of ultra slim and light being the "iPhone Air"
The cheapo iPod touch 5th generation is $229 vs $299. The cheapo is less rear camera & 16g vs 32g or 64g & less color options but other than that seems to be the same form & construction. Maybe 5s cheapo will be 16g with A6 & Expensive 5s will be 32g or 64g with A7
Try to think outside of the boundaries of your home town, Walmart, and the United States.
A truck driver in Indonesia needs a smartphone nowadays as well. He/she probably needs it to be cheap, durable, off-contract, and have a battery that lasts a long, long time.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Who is to say he would be Apple's customer?
Before wooing this Indonesian truck driver, Apple might have more to gain by focusing on selling more iPhones to Germans, Italians and Portuguese, whether they are driving planes, trains or automobiles.
We've been over this a million times. iPhone is the gateway product. If they can make a cheaper but solid phone for less without hurting margins, that's great. They have a big history of this very thing with the iPod line.
I don't know if they can swing this. But I'd love to see this new phone become the "iPhone" with the current style of ultra slim and light being the "iPhone Air"
I would love to see an iPhone Air as the gateway iPhone.
If Apple can do what they did with the iPad Mini and reimagine thin and light that would be a show stopper.
The cheapo iPod touch 5th generation is $229 vs $299. The cheapo is less rear camera & 16g vs 32g or 64g & less color options but other than that seems to be the same form & construction. Maybe 5s cheapo will be 16g with A6 & Expensive 5s will be 32g or 64g with A7
You realize what you're postulating is an iPhone 5 right?
A cheapo 5S with A6 and 16GB? Yup iPhone 5 which will cost $549 when the 5S comes out, if Apple decides to keep it around.
$549 is not affordable enough for most of the world.
My thoughts on the upcoming cheapo phone is a phone based on the iPod touch. Colored aluminum ultra thin and light, sexy and colorful. Apple could totally do that with the aluminum design. They did it with the iphone 1 by simply adding a plastic window for the cell radio signals to go out from.
Anyway I see a device with a colorful aluminum case, A5, 5 megapixel camera, 8GB of storage and Qualcomm's LTE and CD-LTE wireless chips.
Try to think outside of the boundaries of your home town, Walmart, and the United States.
A truck driver in Indonesia needs a smartphone nowadays as well. He/she probably needs it to be cheap, durable, off-contract, and have a battery that lasts a long, long time.
When has Apple ever created a new product for a market that isn't the US? They have limited resources and yet some contend this new product is aimed primarily at other markets, why? Profit grubbers do that, they make products so they can go earn more profits, while Apple builds (a limited number of) products that people love. I don't believe for a moment that they will build a new product to go grab some profit in Indonesia, that's simply not Apple at all.
When has Apple ever created a new product for a market that isn't the US? They have limited resources and yet some contend this new product is aimed primarily at other markets, why? Profit grubbers do that, they make products so they can go earn more profits, while Apple builds (a limited number of) products that people love. I don't believe for a moment that they will build a new product to go grab some profit in Indonesia, that's simply not Apple at all.
I personally think you turn out to be wrong pal. Jobs not around anymore. Investors are crying all over the Street.
No matter what the phone cost you'll eventually be able to get it for next to nothing with a two year commitment by any of the number of pimps, cough, I mean cellular providers. Look at the iPhone 4. Walmart is giving it out for zero dollrs or a penny with a two year commitment.
You do realize the prepaid market in the US is rapidly growing, right? If Apple hasn't noticed this, why are they striking up deals with Straight Talk, Virgin Mobile etc.? People are obviously buying them, or they wouldn't keep selling them. If Apple can produce/offer a more affordable iPhone, especially for prepaid, that will put a dent in Samesung's cheap garbage Android phones that are mostly on prepaid carriers.
The sad part is, AT&T, Verizon and Sprint will probably make even more profit when customers buy these on a 2-year contract.
My gut feeling is, Apple's shifting to a 2-phone lineup. There won't be any more model shifting when the new iPhones comes out. Hopefully Apple will be even more competitive with pricing: Premium iPhone = $599 (32GB)/$699 (64GB); Entry iPhone = $399 (8GB)/$499 (16GB). The feature sets will be nearly identical. The processor, chassis and storage size will separate Entry from Premium.
Seriously people? If this is indeed a legitimate rear shell of an iPhone, then it is obvious that the shell didn't go through the whole production process when it was "taken". The power and volume buttons were obviously not machined before someone got a hold of the shell. Notice that the shell only has the apple logo and is missing the FCC seal along with all the other markings. This could still be in an early stage of the production process --again, assuming it is legit. Don't get distracted by the missing button holes.
One more thing. If this is a fake, why did the people machining this fake not bother with these holes but did machine the others ones?
I personally think you turn out to be wrong pal. Jobs not around anymore. Investors are crying all over the Street.
I've worked for big companies and I think the attitude that companies can change their ethos willy nilly misunderstands how these companies operate. Every corporate process supported Steve and the way he wanted the company to run - that isn't something that is easily undone. Every single corporate process from product inception to product end of life will have supported Steve's ideas. Every single corporate process. To change direction at that level would require an undertaking that would be more difficult than simply starting a new company from scratch with this new ethos. Not going to happen, no matter how many tears Wall Street sheds.
Why bother to publish this if: "It should be noted that AppleInsider cannot confirm the veracity of Techdy's report and offers the following information for purposes of discussion only."?
Lack of buttons is wrong, but overall, love this design.
This is so much more practical than the iPhone 4/4S/5/5S. As much as I appreciate the beauty of those devices and have enjoyed using each one of them, the physical design makes no sense for a day-to-day device...
...unless of course your scheme is to give people bars of soap that break and scratch easily, and thus need expensive repair or get traded in because you can't stand the sight of the scratches anymore.
And you pretty much have to bury the beautiful design in a horrific case of some kind if you want it to last more than a week.
IMO its too bad that this design will only extend to the $0/$99 price points, and not be flagship model as well. Unibody molded plastic is what a Phone should be wrapped in.
Why bother to publish this if:
"It should be noted that AppleInsider cannot confirm the veracity of Techdy's report and offers the following information for purposes of discussion only."?
What is worth discussing?
Exactly. There is nothing worth discussing. Just like when AI and MacRumors commissioned someone to mock up what a budget iPhone might look like and then stuck it on their front pages as news. :rolleyes:
Well touch panel home button, nice, removing volume controls (wtf) Why would someone want no way to turn off, (auto sleep but no Off) the power buttons staying!
Can't help but wonder if they're going to replace the iPod Touch with something like this. Something that would cost the same as an iPod Touch but has the option of turning on the cellular radio through a carrier. To be honest, I don't know if all that would work out (technology wise), but I guess I'm skeptical of them doing a cheap phone without some kind of nuance to it.
Why in the world would Apple redesign the iPod touch last year if they were going to replace it with something plastic this year?
Really sad that all the blogs are giving this stupid site hits. And then treating it as if its the real deal.
Because it gives people the opportunity to vomit their ignorance all over us and then vehemently defend it, while the moronic onlookers applaud and cheer and demand more.
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Let me rephrase, why should Apple cater to them? There isn't a $300 Mac, there won't be a <$300 iPhone, off contract. That said, there may be a 300-400 iPhone, off contract.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Let me rephrase, why should Apple cater to them? There isn't a $300 Mac, there won't be a <$300 iPhone, off contract. That said, there may be a 300-400 iPhone, off contract.
I agree. Google sells the Nexus 4 direct for as low as $299. Apple's unlikely to go lower for a phone that's probably more expensive to produce (plus they like margins). Apple's brand can support premium pricing. I would guess no lower than $399.
I don't know if they can swing this. But I'd love to see this new phone become the "iPhone" with the current style of ultra slim and light being the "iPhone Air"
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Try to think outside of the boundaries of your home town, Walmart, and the United States.
A truck driver in Indonesia needs a smartphone nowadays as well. He/she probably needs it to be cheap, durable, off-contract, and have a battery that lasts a long, long time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jungmark
Who is to say he would be Apple's customer?
Before wooing this Indonesian truck driver, Apple might have more to gain by focusing on selling more iPhones to Germans, Italians and Portuguese, whether they are driving planes, trains or automobiles.
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Originally Posted by Soloman
And a device with a non removable battery is never really off either.
You don't power your phone down when not in use?
Apple know what to do.
I would love to see an iPhone Air as the gateway iPhone.
If Apple can do what they did with the iPad Mini and reimagine thin and light that would be a show stopper.
You realize what you're postulating is an iPhone 5 right?
A cheapo 5S with A6 and 16GB? Yup iPhone 5 which will cost $549 when the 5S comes out, if Apple decides to keep it around.
$549 is not affordable enough for most of the world.
My thoughts on the upcoming cheapo phone is a phone based on the iPod touch. Colored aluminum ultra thin and light, sexy and colorful. Apple could totally do that with the aluminum design. They did it with the iphone 1 by simply adding a plastic window for the cell radio signals to go out from.
Anyway I see a device with a colorful aluminum case, A5, 5 megapixel camera, 8GB of storage and Qualcomm's LTE and CD-LTE wireless chips.
$349 budget iPhone: 8GB Black&Silver. A5, 5MP cam, LTE
$449 budget iPhone: 16GB Colors. A5, 5MP, LTE
$549 iPhone 5: 16GB Black&Slate/White&Silver. A6, 8MP, LTE
$649 iPhone 5S: 32GB Black&Slate/White&Silver. A7, 13MP, LTE
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Try to think outside of the boundaries of your home town, Walmart, and the United States.
A truck driver in Indonesia needs a smartphone nowadays as well. He/she probably needs it to be cheap, durable, off-contract, and have a battery that lasts a long, long time.
When has Apple ever created a new product for a market that isn't the US? They have limited resources and yet some contend this new product is aimed primarily at other markets, why? Profit grubbers do that, they make products so they can go earn more profits, while Apple builds (a limited number of) products that people love. I don't believe for a moment that they will build a new product to go grab some profit in Indonesia, that's simply not Apple at all.
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Originally Posted by maccherry
A budget iPhone is stupid.
No matter what the phone cost you'll eventually be able to get it for next to nothing with a two year commitment by any of the number of pimps, cough, I mean cellular providers. Look at the iPhone 4. Walmart is giving it out for zero dollrs or a penny with a two year commitment.
You do realize the prepaid market in the US is rapidly growing, right? If Apple hasn't noticed this, why are they striking up deals with Straight Talk, Virgin Mobile etc.? People are obviously buying them, or they wouldn't keep selling them. If Apple can produce/offer a more affordable iPhone, especially for prepaid, that will put a dent in Samesung's cheap garbage Android phones that are mostly on prepaid carriers.
The sad part is, AT&T, Verizon and Sprint will probably make even more profit when customers buy these on a 2-year contract.
My gut feeling is, Apple's shifting to a 2-phone lineup. There won't be any more model shifting when the new iPhones comes out. Hopefully Apple will be even more competitive with pricing: Premium iPhone = $599 (32GB)/$699 (64GB); Entry iPhone = $399 (8GB)/$499 (16GB). The feature sets will be nearly identical. The processor, chassis and storage size will separate Entry from Premium.
One more thing. If this is a fake, why did the people machining this fake not bother with these holes but did machine the others ones?
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Originally Posted by shigh
I personally think you turn out to be wrong pal. Jobs not around anymore. Investors are crying all over the Street.
I've worked for big companies and I think the attitude that companies can change their ethos willy nilly misunderstands how these companies operate. Every corporate process supported Steve and the way he wanted the company to run - that isn't something that is easily undone. Every single corporate process from product inception to product end of life will have supported Steve's ideas. Every single corporate process. To change direction at that level would require an undertaking that would be more difficult than simply starting a new company from scratch with this new ethos. Not going to happen, no matter how many tears Wall Street sheds.
"It should be noted that AppleInsider cannot confirm the veracity of Techdy's report and offers the following information for purposes of discussion only."?
What is worth discussing?
This is so much more practical than the iPhone 4/4S/5/5S. As much as I appreciate the beauty of those devices and have enjoyed using each one of them, the physical design makes no sense for a day-to-day device...
...unless of course your scheme is to give people bars of soap that break and scratch easily, and thus need expensive repair or get traded in because you can't stand the sight of the scratches anymore.
And you pretty much have to bury the beautiful design in a horrific case of some kind if you want it to last more than a week.
IMO its too bad that this design will only extend to the $0/$99 price points, and not be flagship model as well. Unibody molded plastic is what a Phone should be wrapped in.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
Really sad that all the blogs are giving this stupid site hits. And then treating it as if its the real deal.
Because it gives people the opportunity to vomit their ignorance all over us and then vehemently defend it, while the moronic onlookers applaud and cheer and demand more.