I think we will see an iPhone where the entire front panel is display and the home button becomes capacitative. It's really only a matter of time IMO. I think iOS 7 really points to that. I imagine we'll see a phone with a 5 inch display/front panel and an overall smaller footprint and form factor than the current 5.
Samsung makes a phablet first. Apple makes one after.
I'm purely comparing screen sizes of a product, nothing more. So yes, Apple would be copying Samsung. Just like when Samsung copied Apple with a tablet.
So, Apple made a 4:3 ratio 8" iPad Mini, and that's "copying everyone else's 16:9 ratio 7" tablets" just because they made a smaller iPad? What screen sizes are you referring to / comparing exactly? Where has Apple "copied" the screen sizes of someone else's tablet or phone? I'm looking for historical precedent to back up your premise here.
Who said that Apple upsizing the phone screen size would a) in any way match Samsung's screen sizes (I would note that once again Samsung has upsized their tablets from 7" to 8" to "match" Apple), or b) that doing so would label it a "phablet" much less constitute "copying"? And finally, what happened to your old "natural progression of technology" argument in support of Samsung's copying?? Gone when it no longer favors your favorite?
You sure do play loose with the idea of "copying". The industry cranks out "standard" sized 20" LCD screens, so everyone makes 20" monitors, but they each pack it with differentiating features, colors, design aesthetics, etc. YOU call that "copying" in this case because a screen is the same size? And then say that is synonymous with Samsing going from crappy busy handsets bristliong with buttons to a handset Samsung's LAWYERS coudln't differentiate from an iPhone and call that the SAME?
So, Apple made a 4:3 ratio 8" iPad Mini, and that's "copying everyone else's 16:9 ratio 7" tablets" just because they made a smaller iPad? What screen sizes are you referring to / comparing exactly? Where has Apple "copied" the screen sizes of someone else's tablet or phone? I'm looking for historical precedent to back up your premise here.
Who said that Apple upsizing the phone screen size would a) in any way match Samsung's screen sizes (I would note that once again Samsung has upsized their tablets from 7" to 8" to "match" Apple), or b) that doing so would label it a "phablet" much less constitute "copying"? And finally, what happened to your old "natural progression of technology" argument in support of Samsung's copying?? Gone when it no longer favors your favorite?
You sure do play loose with the idea of "copying". The industry cranks out "standard" sized 20" LCD screens, so everyone makes 20" monitors, but they each pack it with differentiating features, colors, design aesthetics, etc. YOU call that "copying" in this case because a screen is the same size? And then say that is synonymous with Samsing going from crappy busy handsets bristliong with buttons to a handset Samsung's LAWYERS coudln't differentiate from an iPhone and call that the SAME?
I'd have to label you a shill and a troll if you are seriously arguing for that kind of logic.
Well, Samsung makes devices with pretty much all size screens so no matter what size Apple uses, they'll be "copying." Personally, I'd rather be accused of "copying" a screen size (is that even a thing?) vs copying the design and look/feel. I'm sure it's just me.
I really think that the term that would most fit if they do this is "following a trend" (instead of leading like they typically tend to). Big whoop. They did that with the iPad Mini as well.
If they do go larger, it will be interesting to see what they do as far as resolution (scaling, aspect ratio, resolution independence). I'm a smaller handed and slightly built individual so I hope they continue to make a size that is reasonable for me.
Right. But if they do figure that out, then they will be copying Samsung's display size.
If you are depicting Apple as a copycat for shipping a large screen phone, then you might as well call them a copycat for selling smartphones. In fact, they copied others by making computers, including desktops, laptops, etc. All such depictions, of course, would be absurd.
I can see Apple moving to two product cycles a year with a larger 4.8" iPhone in the spring and continuing to release the two 4" versions in September. It amazes me that some people still doubt that Apple will continue to ignore this market. A larger iPhone is coming and the question is not "if" but when. Interesting that the same people that doubted the iPad Mini are the same ones that doubt a larger iPhone. You would think they would learn by now.
Well, Samsung makes devices with pretty much all size screens so no matter what size Apple uses, they'll be "copying." Personally, I'd rather be accused of "copying" a screen size (is that even a thing?) vs copying the design and look/feel. I'm sure it's just me.
I really think that the term that would most fit if they do this is "following a trend" (instead of leading like they typically tend to). Big whoop. They did that with the iPad Mini as well.
If they do go larger, it will be interesting to see what they do as far as resolution (scaling, aspect ratio, resolution independence). I'm a smaller handed and slightly built individual so I hope they continue to make a size that is reasonable for me.
It'll be double the resolution of today's iPhone, so apps will scale just fine, although some touch targets will look obnoxiously large just as they do on big Androids.
At once, I applaud this because I really want one, but a deplore that it has taken so long. I want one now, and I need to upgrade now. I don't want one next year. Apple is so far behind the curve on this one, it makes me scratch my head.
Apple needs to make telephony just another app. Let the 4G iPads act as phones if the user wants (with headphones or whatever). If you think using a phablet looks silly, then just take the data plan (or not) and leave the phone out. If you want the telephony, then it's there for you.
WSJ is notorious in creating stories that is just rumors. Honestly, I just want a device that I can put in my font pant pocket. and it just feel weird walking and talking on something I can't even hold in my hand that easily. Any way, maybe this might have a screen that gives me 6 in diagonal surface, that is using flexible screen. Now it would just be amazing, if the screen pulls out like in scrolls? I can see a phone which is one cylinder, which contains the rolled away screen. For making calls I do not need to pull out screen, the surface of the cylinder can be big enough with the numbers for phone. When I can to work it an app or text or something that requires bigger real estate I just scroll out the screen.
Just imagine having a cylindrical object in your pant pocket - Win -Win situation :-)
If Apple made a phablet, I bet it would be 5.7" with a resolution of 1536x1024 (half a retina iPad mini).
By some weird coincidence, Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 sports a 5.7" screen, exactly half the size of the iPad mini screen, even though it has a completely different display technology and resolution. But of course, Samsung would never spy on Apple to know what product they're working on.
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Not taking it wrong. Although I disagree. It's more about what people like. If they were doing it to copy Samsung they would've done it before now.
But all these large phones have created a need and lust for them.
Now Apple must respond.
I drank the cool-aid when apple made the 5 and said portability and one handed use is their focus.
I like the size and function of the 5
But....
Markets and options change and grow
I now would love to try a larger phone. The HTC One is a perfect size for me.
I think this is Apple's biggest weakness now.
All Phone models on the market need to have at least 3 different siZes now.
Mini Medium And Large. You can keep the max phablets lol
Samsung has gone a bit overboard with their sizes. But apple can afford one larger format.
I think a 4.8 to 5" screen would be their top seller.
Next year I hope. If not I would be greatly disappointed.
I think we will see an iPhone where the entire front panel is display and the home button becomes capacitative. It's really only a matter of time IMO. I think iOS 7 really points to that. I imagine we'll see a phone with a 5 inch display/front panel and an overall smaller footprint and form factor than the current 5.
Samsung makes a phablet first. Apple makes one after.
I'm purely comparing screen sizes of a product, nothing more. So yes, Apple would be copying Samsung. Just like when Samsung copied Apple with a tablet.
So, Apple made a 4:3 ratio 8" iPad Mini, and that's "copying everyone else's 16:9 ratio 7" tablets" just because they made a smaller iPad? What screen sizes are you referring to / comparing exactly? Where has Apple "copied" the screen sizes of someone else's tablet or phone? I'm looking for historical precedent to back up your premise here.
Who said that Apple upsizing the phone screen size would a) in any way match Samsung's screen sizes (I would note that once again Samsung has upsized their tablets from 7" to 8" to "match" Apple), or b) that doing so would label it a "phablet" much less constitute "copying"? And finally, what happened to your old "natural progression of technology" argument in support of Samsung's copying?? Gone when it no longer favors your favorite?
You sure do play loose with the idea of "copying". The industry cranks out "standard" sized 20" LCD screens, so everyone makes 20" monitors, but they each pack it with differentiating features, colors, design aesthetics, etc. YOU call that "copying" in this case because a screen is the same size? And then say that is synonymous with Samsing going from crappy busy handsets bristliong with buttons to a handset Samsung's LAWYERS coudln't differentiate from an iPhone and call that the SAME?
It would be difficult for Apple to produce any screen size that Samsung haven't already produced.
No, you lied through your teeth, poorly, and with intent to troll. "Pretty much" isn't anywhere near sufficient, particularly when you know better.
You have proof that Apple is producing a phablet and you have plans or prior art that it was in development before any knowledge of the Galaxy Note?
Doubtful.
Stop throwing around accusations of lying, especially when you're up against opinion.
Wait! WHAT? Apple experimenting with something? ???
Color me absolutely shocked...I mean...you know...like...beyond belief.
Must lie down now.
You have proof that Apple is producing a phablet and you have plans or prior art that it was in development before any knowledge of the Galaxy Note?
I have proof that Apple making a phablet ? Apple copying Samsung.
So, Apple made a 4:3 ratio 8" iPad Mini, and that's "copying everyone else's 16:9 ratio 7" tablets" just because they made a smaller iPad? What screen sizes are you referring to / comparing exactly? Where has Apple "copied" the screen sizes of someone else's tablet or phone? I'm looking for historical precedent to back up your premise here.
Who said that Apple upsizing the phone screen size would a) in any way match Samsung's screen sizes (I would note that once again Samsung has upsized their tablets from 7" to 8" to "match" Apple), or b) that doing so would label it a "phablet" much less constitute "copying"? And finally, what happened to your old "natural progression of technology" argument in support of Samsung's copying?? Gone when it no longer favors your favorite?
You sure do play loose with the idea of "copying". The industry cranks out "standard" sized 20" LCD screens, so everyone makes 20" monitors, but they each pack it with differentiating features, colors, design aesthetics, etc. YOU call that "copying" in this case because a screen is the same size? And then say that is synonymous with Samsing going from crappy busy handsets bristliong with buttons to a handset Samsung's LAWYERS coudln't differentiate from an iPhone and call that the SAME?
I'd have to label you a shill and a troll if you are seriously arguing for that kind of logic.
Well, Samsung makes devices with pretty much all size screens so no matter what size Apple uses, they'll be "copying." Personally, I'd rather be accused of "copying" a screen size (is that even a thing?) vs copying the design and look/feel. I'm sure it's just me.
I really think that the term that would most fit if they do this is "following a trend" (instead of leading like they typically tend to). Big whoop. They did that with the iPad Mini as well.
If they do go larger, it will be interesting to see what they do as far as resolution (scaling, aspect ratio, resolution independence). I'm a smaller handed and slightly built individual so I hope they continue to make a size that is reasonable for me.
Right. But if they do figure that out, then they will be copying Samsung's display size.
If you are depicting Apple as a copycat for shipping a large screen phone, then you might as well call them a copycat for selling smartphones. In fact, they copied others by making computers, including desktops, laptops, etc. All such depictions, of course, would be absurd.
It would be difficult for Apple to produce any screen size that Samsung haven't already produced.
LOL!
Actually, there is an opening at pi.
I can see Apple moving to two product cycles a year with a larger 4.8" iPhone in the spring and continuing to release the two 4" versions in September. It amazes me that some people still doubt that Apple will continue to ignore this market. A larger iPhone is coming and the question is not "if" but when. Interesting that the same people that doubted the iPad Mini are the same ones that doubt a larger iPhone. You would think they would learn by now.
Well, Samsung makes devices with pretty much all size screens so no matter what size Apple uses, they'll be "copying." Personally, I'd rather be accused of "copying" a screen size (is that even a thing?) vs copying the design and look/feel. I'm sure it's just me.
I really think that the term that would most fit if they do this is "following a trend" (instead of leading like they typically tend to). Big whoop. They did that with the iPad Mini as well.
If they do go larger, it will be interesting to see what they do as far as resolution (scaling, aspect ratio, resolution independence). I'm a smaller handed and slightly built individual so I hope they continue to make a size that is reasonable for me.
It'll be double the resolution of today's iPhone, so apps will scale just fine, although some touch targets will look obnoxiously large just as they do on big Androids.
At once, I applaud this because I really want one, but a deplore that it has taken so long. I want one now, and I need to upgrade now. I don't want one next year. Apple is so far behind the curve on this one, it makes me scratch my head.
Apple needs to make telephony just another app. Let the 4G iPads act as phones if the user wants (with headphones or whatever). If you think using a phablet looks silly, then just take the data plan (or not) and leave the phone out. If you want the telephony, then it's there for you.
WSJ is notorious in creating stories that is just rumors. Honestly, I just want a device that I can put in my font pant pocket. and it just feel weird walking and talking on something I can't even hold in my hand that easily. Any way, maybe this might have a screen that gives me 6 in diagonal surface, that is using flexible screen. Now it would just be amazing, if the screen pulls out like in scrolls? I can see a phone which is one cylinder, which contains the rolled away screen. For making calls I do not need to pull out screen, the surface of the cylinder can be big enough with the numbers for phone. When I can to work it an app or text or something that requires bigger real estate I just scroll out the screen.
Just imagine having a cylindrical object in your pant pocket - Win -Win situation :-)
I have proof that Apple making a phablet ? Apple copying Samsung.
Lie.
If Apple made a phablet, I bet it would be 5.7" with a resolution of 1536x1024 (half a retina iPad mini).
By some weird coincidence, Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 sports a 5.7" screen, exactly half the size of the iPad mini screen, even though it has a completely different display technology and resolution. But of course, Samsung would never spy on Apple to know what product they're working on.
Sure. Say, would you happen to know the definition of the word 'copy'?