Prove that Apple has fallen behind. You can rattle off specs from a list but that doesn't mean anything. I can rattle off ingredients from a recipe but it doesn't make me a chef. Just like a recipe is more than just ingredients, an iPhone is more than just a spec list. The iPhone is still #1 individual smartphone model. iOS has rarely been the #1 smartphone OS except for maybe a qtr or two. Oh and the iPhone still earns the most profits.
Apple has not made innovative software additions since Siri, which was quickly surpassed by Google Now in almost every way. iOS 7 is a step in the right direction, but the OS is still fundamentally the same. Look at the multitasking software in the Note 3. The S Pen allows for some truly useful software tweaks like drag-and-drop from one app to another in the multiwindow view or the saving of content simply by circling it.
I'll play your silly little game when you back up your bs with actual proof.
I'm allowing you to define the parameters of the proof yourself so that you can't whine about how I twisted the facts to fit my argument. Because you would. And I refuse to play that game with you people.
So, again, what is the definition of the word 'copy'?
Of course they are, from the same fork handle indeed. However - what AnalogJack claimed is very true.
Perhaps just like without the US Apollo missions - TTL, WD40, Teflon etc... would not have been invented at that time. Had Jobs / Apple not revolutionized the smart phone and touch based computer with the iPhone and iPad, products heavily based on them would still have been invented, eventually
Android inc was incorporated in 2003 originally to build a better OS for cameras etc... Apple were already developing touch versions of its OS for the iPhone at this time
What AnalogJack was referring was the OS not Smartphone. So since iOS is UNIX based, it did not have any role/influence in development of Android. Stating that if not for iOS Android would not exist is not correct.
good point, i was confusing my own reply earlier -its android and linux that are directly linked, not unix
Linux is just a free version of Berkley system V Unix. Some licensed parts of the kernel were modified but in the essence is the same OS. If you look on HP, Sun Microsystem or SGI you will see different implementation/flavor and GUI of the base Unix.
I'm allowing you to define the parameters of the proof yourself so that you can't whine about how I twisted the facts to fit my argument. Because you would. And I refuse to play that game with you people.
So, again, what is the definition of the word 'copy'?
Sure, you don't play games, you just scream and rant.
Copy, imitate, follow a pre-existing pattern. The standard definition.
Go on then. Prove that if Apple is making a phablet then Apple aren't following in Samsung's footsteps.
Since Samsung are widely credited with inventing the phablet form factor I don't hold high hopes that you're going to rise to the task.
Linux is just a free version of Berkley system V Unix. Some licensed parts of the kernel were modified but in the essence is the same OS. If you look on HP, Sun Microsystem or SGI you will see different implementation/flavor and GUI of the base Unix.
Linux, being just really a kernel, was written from scratch by Linus Torvald. It provides an appearance of the same OS as you say.
Copy, imitate, follow a pre-existing pattern. The standard definition.
Samsung is copying LG by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Smeg by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying GE by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying LG by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying GE by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Apple by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Dell by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying HP by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Acer by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying NEC by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying RIM by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Motorola by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Nokia by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying GE by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Miele by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Westinghouse by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a TV.
Samsung is copying LG by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Vizio by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Fujitsu by making a TV.
Samsung is copying JVC by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Philips by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sanyo by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Kodak by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Nikon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Canon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a camera.
Samsung is copying GE by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Casio by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Apex by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying GE by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a DVD player.
The list goes on, but Huddler wanted to submit it without my say-so.
See, they weren't first to do any of those things. Or maybe there's something more to the situation than your pathetic statement of "Apple is copying Samsung". Now be quiet.
Let's acknowledge that without Apple there would be no Samsung smartphone, or Phablet. Apple singlehandedly created an entire new genre of objects. All the infrastructure was already there but no one knew how to make it work. Without iOS, Android would not have been invented.
Originally Posted by andrzejls
What AnalogJack was referring was the OS not Smartphone. So since iOS is UNIX based, it did not have any role/influence in development of Android. Stating that if not for iOS Android would not exist is not correct.
did you read AnalogJack he clearly mentioned smartphone.... and my point is that without IOS and the iPhone, Android would not have been hijacked from a camera OS, into an OS for smartphones. There would have been a linux/unix or whatver based smartphone OS eventually, but who knows when it would have been invented/delveloped if it were not for Jobs & Apple
What i expect them to eventually do is have a line up where the cheapest iPhone will have a 4 inch screen and a normal iPhone will have a 4.5 inch- 4.7 inch screen next year (maybe the iPhone 6), then they will release a 'Phablet' iPhone that will have a 5.5 inch.
If we have a look back at old Apple products ( http://www.technologeek.net/a-look-back-at-apple-products-of-old/), we can clearly see that the more an Apple device is recent, the more the screen is bigger. This is why I think that the next iPhone could have a bigger screen
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Smeg by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying GE by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying LG by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying GE by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Apple by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Dell by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying HP by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Acer by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying NEC by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying RIM by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Motorola by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Nokia by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying GE by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Miele by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Westinghouse by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a TV.
Samsung is copying LG by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Vizio by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Fujitsu by making a TV.
Samsung is copying JVC by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Philips by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sanyo by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Kodak by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Nikon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Canon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a camera.
Samsung is copying GE by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Casio by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Apex by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying GE by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a DVD player.
The list goes on, but Huddler wanted to submit it without my say-so.
See, they weren't first to do any of those things. Or maybe there's something more to the situation than your pathetic statement of "Apple is copying Samsung". Now be quiet.
You hilariously proved that, according to your own standards, all of Apple's products are copies. Maybe not their original computer.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Hey, thanks for the lies.
What was a lie? That Apple hasn't put innovative software into iOS since Siri? Or that Siri was quickly surpassed by Google Now in usefulness? I'd like you to give reasons or examples for whichever one it is.
Since Samsung are widely credited with inventing the phablet form factor I don't hold high hopes that you're going to rise to the task.
"Invent" is not the word I'd use. All Sammy did was add a diagonal inch to an existing shape. Are you gonna credit LG for "inventing" a 60" TV? Or another company for making a taller fridge?
"Invent" is not the word I'd use. All Sammy did was add a diagonal inch to an existing shape. Are you gonna credit LG for "inventing" a 60" TV? Or another company for making a taller fridge?
Don't forget the stylus! That makes the Note a unique product.
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I believe Android has a Linux kernel, so doesn't that make it UNIX-like, not UNIX-based?
good point, i was confusing my own reply earlier -its android and linux that are directly linked, not unix
Prove that Apple has fallen behind. You can rattle off specs from a list but that doesn't mean anything. I can rattle off ingredients from a recipe but it doesn't make me a chef. Just like a recipe is more than just ingredients, an iPhone is more than just a spec list. The iPhone is still #1 individual smartphone model. iOS has rarely been the #1 smartphone OS except for maybe a qtr or two. Oh and the iPhone still earns the most profits.
Apple has not made innovative software additions since Siri, which was quickly surpassed by Google Now in almost every way. iOS 7 is a step in the right direction, but the OS is still fundamentally the same. Look at the multitasking software in the Note 3. The S Pen allows for some truly useful software tweaks like drag-and-drop from one app to another in the multiwindow view or the saving of content simply by circling it.
I'm allowing you to define the parameters of the proof yourself so that you can't whine about how I twisted the facts to fit my argument. Because you would. And I refuse to play that game with you people.
So, again, what is the definition of the word 'copy'?
Of course they are, from the same fork handle indeed. However - what AnalogJack claimed is very true.
Perhaps just like without the US Apollo missions - TTL, WD40, Teflon etc... would not have been invented at that time. Had Jobs / Apple not revolutionized the smart phone and touch based computer with the iPhone and iPad, products heavily based on them would still have been invented, eventually
Android inc was incorporated in 2003 originally to build a better OS for cameras etc... Apple were already developing touch versions of its OS for the iPhone at this time
What AnalogJack was referring was the OS not Smartphone. So since iOS is UNIX based, it did not have any role/influence in development of Android. Stating that if not for iOS Android would not exist is not correct.
good point, i was confusing my own reply earlier -its android and linux that are directly linked, not unix
Linux is just a free version of Berkley system V Unix. Some licensed parts of the kernel were modified but in the essence is the same OS. If you look on HP, Sun Microsystem or SGI you will see different implementation/flavor and GUI of the base Unix.
I'm allowing you to define the parameters of the proof yourself so that you can't whine about how I twisted the facts to fit my argument. Because you would. And I refuse to play that game with you people.
So, again, what is the definition of the word 'copy'?
Sure, you don't play games, you just scream and rant.
Copy, imitate, follow a pre-existing pattern. The standard definition.
Go on then. Prove that if Apple is making a phablet then Apple aren't following in Samsung's footsteps.
Since Samsung are widely credited with inventing the phablet form factor I don't hold high hopes that you're going to rise to the task.
Linux is just a free version of Berkley system V Unix. Some licensed parts of the kernel were modified but in the essence is the same OS. If you look on HP, Sun Microsystem or SGI you will see different implementation/flavor and GUI of the base Unix.
Linux, being just really a kernel, was written from scratch by Linus Torvald. It provides an appearance of the same OS as you say.
Copy, imitate, follow a pre-existing pattern. The standard definition.
Samsung is copying LG by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Smeg by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying GE by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying LG by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying GE by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Apple by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Dell by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying HP by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Acer by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying NEC by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying RIM by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Motorola by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Nokia by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying GE by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Miele by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Westinghouse by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a TV.
Samsung is copying LG by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Vizio by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Fujitsu by making a TV.
Samsung is copying JVC by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Philips by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sanyo by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Kodak by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Nikon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Canon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a camera.
Samsung is copying GE by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Casio by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Apex by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying GE by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a DVD player.
The list goes on, but Huddler wanted to submit it without my say-so.
See, they weren't first to do any of those things. Or maybe there's something more to the situation than your pathetic statement of "Apple is copying Samsung". Now be quiet.
Not really sure what you think that proves, but it definitely doesn't bear any relation to anything earlier in this thread.
And that "pathetic statement"? Not something I said. Not something anyone said. You're fighting imaginary monsters.
Not something anyone said.
You can't be this dense.
…they will be copying Samsung's display size.
So yes, Apple would be copying Samsung.
Originally Posted by AnalogJack
Let's acknowledge that without Apple there would be no Samsung smartphone, or Phablet. Apple singlehandedly created an entire new genre of objects. All the infrastructure was already there but no one knew how to make it work. Without iOS, Android would not have been invented.
What AnalogJack was referring was the OS not Smartphone. So since iOS is UNIX based, it did not have any role/influence in development of Android. Stating that if not for iOS Android would not exist is not correct.
did you read AnalogJack he clearly mentioned smartphone.... and my point is that without IOS and the iPhone, Android would not have been hijacked from a camera OS, into an OS for smartphones. There would have been a linux/unix or whatver based smartphone OS eventually, but who knows when it would have been invented/delveloped if it were not for Jobs & Apple
Apple has not made innovative software additions since Siri, which was quickly surpassed by Google Now in almost every way.
Apple didn't make Siri. Apple purchased Siri and took over development.
What i expect them to eventually do is have a line up where the cheapest iPhone will have a 4 inch screen and a normal iPhone will have a 4.5 inch- 4.7 inch screen next year (maybe the iPhone 6), then they will release a 'Phablet' iPhone that will have a 5.5 inch.
If we have a look back at old Apple products ( http://www.technologeek.net/a-look-back-at-apple-products-of-old/), we can clearly see that the more an Apple device is recent, the more the screen is bigger. This is why I think that the next iPhone could have a bigger screen
Best regards, Huber Bucher
Hey, thanks for the lies.
Apple didn't make Siri. Apple purchased Siri and took over development.
Gotta give that a 4/10; you can do better than that.
Samsung is copying LG by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Smeg by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying GE by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a refrigerator.
Samsung is copying LG by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying GE by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying KitchenAid by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a microwave.
Samsung is copying Apple by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Dell by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying HP by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Acer by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying NEC by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a laptop.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying RIM by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Motorola by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying Nokia by making a phone.
Samsung is copying LG by making a phone.
Samsung is copying GE by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Maytag by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Kenmore by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Whirlpool by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Frigidaire by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Miele by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Electrolux by making a washing machine.
Samsung is copying Westinghouse by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sharp by making a TV.
Samsung is copying LG by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Vizio by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Fujitsu by making a TV.
Samsung is copying JVC by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Philips by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Sanyo by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a TV.
Samsung is copying Kodak by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Nikon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Canon by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a camera.
Samsung is copying GE by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Casio by making a camera.
Samsung is copying Apex by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Sony by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying GE by making a DVD player.
Samsung is copying Toshiba by making a DVD player.
The list goes on, but Huddler wanted to submit it without my say-so.
See, they weren't first to do any of those things. Or maybe there's something more to the situation than your pathetic statement of "Apple is copying Samsung". Now be quiet.
You hilariously proved that, according to your own standards, all of Apple's products are copies. Maybe not their original computer.
Hey, thanks for the lies.
What was a lie? That Apple hasn't put innovative software into iOS since Siri? Or that Siri was quickly surpassed by Google Now in usefulness? I'd like you to give reasons or examples for whichever one it is.
You hilariously proved that, according to your own standards, all of Apple's products are copies.
No, I did the opposite, thanks.
What was a lie?
Just go away, please. We don't need more of you here.
"Invent" is not the word I'd use. All Sammy did was add a diagonal inch to an existing shape. Are you gonna credit LG for "inventing" a 60" TV? Or another company for making a taller fridge?
You don't see many people clamoring for a 12' fridge. Maybe Samsung should pretend they know what we want and make one.
No, I did the opposite, thanks.
Just go away, please. We don't need more of you here.
You are the biggest troll ever. On any website.
"Invent" is not the word I'd use. All Sammy did was add a diagonal inch to an existing shape. Are you gonna credit LG for "inventing" a 60" TV? Or another company for making a taller fridge?
Don't forget the stylus! That makes the Note a unique product.