Didn't one of the feeds have something about apps being reworked for 64 bit? If they haven't been they will be soon. By the way this was Apple supplied apps.
I know Apple doesn't move to my schedule but there were some glaring things missing from this launch. Where is the iPad mini retina? Where is the China Mobile deal? Where is the iPad 5? What gives?
I realize you just learned the word innovation and are trying to find its appropriate use by using it for every other word, but could you keep it down a little? The adults are trying to talk. Thanks.
Apple innovates to stay innovated by innovating their innovatingly innovations and is the most innovatedinginlyest innovator.
They could have named this the iPhone 6, there are so much difference internally, Samsung would jump 2 numbers, who by the way must be sh*tting their pants for the rest of the week? Samsung's next galaxy phone is months away, but I don't think it's enough time to catch up.
No one can deny the 64 bits system is a huge leap forward and the true sign of innovation.
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I'm going to assume Apple was having too many scuffing issues with the slate mode and decided to replace it with something that doesn't scuff as easily.
It's possible. I was curious why Apple didn't hard anodize the back plates in iPhone 5 (or at least, it doesn't seem like they have). Perhaps this is what they are doing this time. Hard anodizing changes the color. Also, it is tricky to get a super consistent hue when hard anodizing. So I am not sure 100% sure.
The first embedded OS [iOS] that is 64 bit, throughout to match up with OS X.
Hadn't really thought of it that way...
But yeah...
Add to that the fact that the 2 OSes share many common APIs, and some creative packaging (instead of fat binaries) -- you could run many iOS apps on the OSX desktop by installing only the code required for the underlying architecture...
The implementation of the touch UI in the iOS Simulator is pretty good -- and they could become a OSX system capability... In fact, some Mavericks apps already do this -- OSX Maps, for one!
I know Apple doesn't move to my schedule but there were some glaring things missing from this launch. Where is the iPad mini retina? Where is the China Mobile deal? Where is the iPad 5? What gives?
Didn't one of the feeds have something about apps being reworked for 64 bit? If they haven't been they will be soon. By the way this was Apple supplied apps.
Yes, but that was for iOS apps and speaking generically about all of them and none specific. I'm talking about iLife on OS X.
Note also that GarageBand is exempt from the "free" thing.
The first embedded OS [iOS] that is 64 bit, throughout to match up with OS X.
It is not the first 64-bit embedded OS. Wind Rivers released the 64-bit version of VxWorks a few years ago.
But I agree with you that this is a big deal, particularly since they squeezed it into the same form factor and are providing the same battery life. As I wrote elsewhere, this might be the most understated jump in the kernel of a widely used OS in the history of computing.
Add to that the fact that the 2 OSes share many common APIs, and some creative packaging (instead of fat binaries) -- you could run many iOS apps on the OSX desktop by installing only the code required for the underlying architecture...
The implementation of the touch UI in the iOS Simulator is pretty good -- and they could become a OSX system capability... In fact, some Mavericks apps already do this -- OSX Maps, for one!
No doubt, and like the desktop world 64 bit will be the future. But there's still inherent differences in the move that made 64bit critical in the CISC/Intel x86 world that mean less in the RISC/ARM world. IMO it would have more scalability potential to the iPad going forward and the on/off-rumored A-Series powered Macbook Airs than the iPhone.
Of course it would have more value in the iPad, but you don't want one part of your platform gimped just because 64 bit isn't as useful there. Beyond that you have to look towards the future, I fully expect to see Apple debut an iPhone one day that can be docked in such a way that it transforms into your desktop computer solution. The hardware to do this isn't far away at all, you need very high density RAM which is coming and a way to drive a desktop monitor (Thunderbolt maybe). The rest can be done wirelessly.
As to a Mac Book AIR power by this chip, oh boy! ????????????????????????. It would very much depend upon the final configuration but I could see myself salivating over such a machine. This especially the case if Apple focuses on all day or better battery life. It would need to run Mac OS though and give me the same freedom of access to the OS.
In any event A7 impresses me. We haven't seen independent tests yet but Apple has been pretty close with previous improvement estimates. So right now I will take their word for it. This will be most impressive in the iPad though and that will likely be the first place I will be using one of Apples new super chips. As I've said before this sets Apple up to be at the fore front of personal device development. They now have a 64 bit chip suitable for cell phones, no one else can really claim that at this point.
In any event don't be dismissive of the accomplishment here. It is a certainty that 64 bit will be more useful in iPad apps, but this puts Apple on course for the next decade of iOS devices.
I know Apple doesn't move to my schedule but there were some glaring things missing from this launch. Where is the iPad mini retina? Where is the China Mobile deal? Where is the iPad 5? What gives?
It was a phone launch. More to come. Cook's on record as regretting the big product dump last Fall. China Mobile is big enough to warrant it's own announcement: it's 10X DoCommo (?) after all....
The potential of the little box we know as the AppleTV especially interests me. For one, 4K video is coming...
But more than that, I wonder if they put an A7 (or A7x) inside the ATV enclosure and added Thunderbolt 2, some additional SSD and RAM. These ATV-like "modules" could be combined into a server farm -- or even a video render-farm for the new Mac Pro. Apple has existing software to parcel out compute/graphics-intensive jobs to multiple Macs... I think the 64-bit A7 chip means that headless, low-power, inexpensive ARM boxes could be used instead of Intel boxes.
I think a lot of people would be willing to pony up $199 for the A7 based AppleTV with a 32GB storage with TB2, HDMI 2.0, USB3.0 running the entire AppStore with 64 bit Games that can be shared across OS X and leverage perhaps any OS X box GPGPU for processing scenes and more.
Outside Of the Box:
Make the box a break even venture and then up-sell the controller and few add-ons to break into the market even more.
Even charging $299 to come with a 64GB storage option while streaming textures from a USB 3.0 128GB Thumb Drive accessory or a NAS connected via the TB2 would be a really disruptive ecosystem third-party market opportunity.
It would require Game Developers to include deals with Thumb drive manufacturers to offer add-on library packs via cloud servers or direct thumb sticks that could either be kept on the stick or copied to your local NAS/Mac, what have you that can be accessible as an available resource for the GPGPU to source.
There are all kinds of ways vendors can see the Apple TV as a killer box for both Video/Audio Entertainment, Gaming, Business presentations, etc.
I had to get a 5 when my 4 broke....I wish I had my 4 back.
The 4/4s is sure pretty but the LTE speed of the 5 is something I wouldn't trade for pretty. Though mileage varies which is why they're retaining the 4s I expect. Damn good looking phone.
Given the 5's resale value you could probably do a deal with the free 4s in a couple months when your contract hits that point?
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...or worse, to China.
Didn't one of the feeds have something about apps being reworked for 64 bit? If they haven't been they will be soon. By the way this was Apple supplied apps.
Apple innovates to stay innovated by innovating their innovatingly innovations and is the most innovatedinginlyest innovator.
Time for innovacation!
I done learned it mo better.
The main missing new feature for me is the fact that it has the same tiny screen. Why can't they make it in a 4.8"-5"?! Oh well, maybe next year.....
Just go big and get an LTE iPad mini. Solves that screen area problem once and for all. Cheaper service as well.
Too big and is not a phone, but I am waiting to see if retina mini comes out and will compare to Nexus 7 (2013). Would like a new tablet this year.
No one can deny the 64 bits system is a huge leap forward and the true sign of innovation.
The greatest excitement about that, however, overwhelms a developer on the day when he decides to recompile the application, feels ready and... finds out his library supplier is actually not.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I'm going to assume Apple was having too many scuffing issues with the slate mode and decided to replace it with something that doesn't scuff as easily.
It's possible. I was curious why Apple didn't hard anodize the back plates in iPhone 5 (or at least, it doesn't seem like they have). Perhaps this is what they are doing this time. Hard anodizing changes the color. Also, it is tricky to get a super consistent hue when hard anodizing. So I am not sure 100% sure.
Hadn't really thought of it that way...
But yeah...
Add to that the fact that the 2 OSes share many common APIs, and some creative packaging (instead of fat binaries) -- you could run many iOS apps on the OSX desktop by installing only the code required for the underlying architecture...
The implementation of the touch UI in the iOS Simulator is pretty good -- and they could become a OSX system capability... In fact, some Mavericks apps already do this -- OSX Maps, for one!
I know Apple doesn't move to my schedule but there were some glaring things missing from this launch. Where is the iPad mini retina? Where is the China Mobile deal? Where is the iPad 5? What gives?
"I know Apple doesn't move to my schedule"
Truer words have never been written
Yes, but that was for iOS apps and speaking generically about all of them and none specific. I'm talking about iLife on OS X.
Note also that GarageBand is exempt from the "free" thing.
In other words, anyone buying an Apple device will get an office suite that will satisfy the needs of some large percent of users.
Apple needs to enhance and support these products better than they have in the past. It appears that Apple understands this.
Since no one seems to see it I'll mention it:
The first embedded OS [iOS] that is 64 bit, throughout to match up with OS X.
It is not the first 64-bit embedded OS. Wind Rivers released the 64-bit version of VxWorks a few years ago.
But I agree with you that this is a big deal, particularly since they squeezed it into the same form factor and are providing the same battery life. As I wrote elsewhere, this might be the most understated jump in the kernel of a widely used OS in the history of computing.
Of course it would have more value in the iPad, but you don't want one part of your platform gimped just because 64 bit isn't as useful there. Beyond that you have to look towards the future, I fully expect to see Apple debut an iPhone one day that can be docked in such a way that it transforms into your desktop computer solution. The hardware to do this isn't far away at all, you need very high density RAM which is coming and a way to drive a desktop monitor (Thunderbolt maybe). The rest can be done wirelessly.
As to a Mac Book AIR power by this chip, oh boy! ????????????????????????. It would very much depend upon the final configuration but I could see myself salivating over such a machine. This especially the case if Apple focuses on all day or better battery life. It would need to run Mac OS though and give me the same freedom of access to the OS.
In any event A7 impresses me. We haven't seen independent tests yet but Apple has been pretty close with previous improvement estimates. So right now I will take their word for it. This will be most impressive in the iPad though and that will likely be the first place I will be using one of Apples new super chips. As I've said before this sets Apple up to be at the fore front of personal device development. They now have a 64 bit chip suitable for cell phones, no one else can really claim that at this point.
In any event don't be dismissive of the accomplishment here. It is a certainty that 64 bit will be more useful in iPad apps, but this puts Apple on course for the next decade of iOS devices.
Originally Posted by StruckPaper
How many smartphones have substantially longer battery life that are not significantly fatter?
I had to get a 5 when my 4 broke....I wish I had my 4 back.
I know Apple doesn't move to my schedule but there were some glaring things missing from this launch. Where is the iPad mini retina? Where is the China Mobile deal? Where is the iPad 5? What gives?
It was a phone launch. More to come. Cook's on record as regretting the big product dump last Fall. China Mobile is big enough to warrant it's own announcement: it's 10X DoCommo (?) after all....
Lots of good points here!
The potential of the little box we know as the AppleTV especially interests me. For one, 4K video is coming...
But more than that, I wonder if they put an A7 (or A7x) inside the ATV enclosure and added Thunderbolt 2, some additional SSD and RAM. These ATV-like "modules" could be combined into a server farm -- or even a video render-farm for the new Mac Pro. Apple has existing software to parcel out compute/graphics-intensive jobs to multiple Macs... I think the 64-bit A7 chip means that headless, low-power, inexpensive ARM boxes could be used instead of Intel boxes.
I think a lot of people would be willing to pony up $199 for the A7 based AppleTV with a 32GB storage with TB2, HDMI 2.0, USB3.0 running the entire AppStore with 64 bit Games that can be shared across OS X and leverage perhaps any OS X box GPGPU for processing scenes and more.
Outside Of the Box:
Make the box a break even venture and then up-sell the controller and few add-ons to break into the market even more.
Even charging $299 to come with a 64GB storage option while streaming textures from a USB 3.0 128GB Thumb Drive accessory or a NAS connected via the TB2 would be a really disruptive ecosystem third-party market opportunity.
It would require Game Developers to include deals with Thumb drive manufacturers to offer add-on library packs via cloud servers or direct thumb sticks that could either be kept on the stick or copied to your local NAS/Mac, what have you that can be accessible as an available resource for the GPGPU to source.
There are all kinds of ways vendors can see the Apple TV as a killer box for both Video/Audio Entertainment, Gaming, Business presentations, etc.
Originally Posted by StruckPaper
How many smartphones have substantially longer battery life that are not significantly fatter?
I had to get a 5 when my 4 broke....I wish I had my 4 back.
Learn to take care of your wants.
I had to get a 5 when my 4 broke....I wish I had my 4 back.
The 4/4s is sure pretty but the LTE speed of the 5 is something I wouldn't trade for pretty. Though mileage varies which is why they're retaining the 4s I expect. Damn good looking phone.
Given the 5's resale value you could probably do a deal with the free 4s in a couple months when your contract hits that point?