Every single iPhone has been underclocked. They will not be "restoring" anything in the 8th iPhone, because it will get its own, new processor which itself will be underclocked. Be quiet.
Don't use it. HOLY COW, WHAT A CONCEPT.
Who knows what the proper clock speed is for the Apple A7 chips, they are the ones that designed it and they clock the chips at what works best from two perspectives. One is what are the best yields in terms of speed and what works best from a heat, power, speed perspective. Remember, when the chips roll off the assembly line, they get tested and thrown into different speed lots. They more chips that get rated at slower speeds. Plus, a slower speed chip won't require as much power, generate as much heat and will be more reliable.
Who knows what the proper clock speed is for the Apple A7 chips, they are the ones that designed it and they clock the chips at what works best from two perspectives. One is what are the best yields in terms of speed and what works best from a heat, power, speed perspective. Remember, when the chips roll off the assembly line, they get tested and thrown into different speed lots. They more chips that get rated at slower speeds. Plus, a slower speed chip won't require as much power, generate as much heat and will be more reliable.
Exactly. And Apple only ONCE upped the clock of a chip. The first-gen iPhone used a 600MHz chip downclocked to 412MHz. The first-gen iPod touch used the same chip, clocked at 400MHz. In… hoo… 1.1.3? I think it was, the clock was upped to 412 to match the iPhone. Other than that: never.
Which ones are you talking about? I usually read the post that I'm replying to and only scan others, but sometimes I post something and there might be other posts that haven't gotten to me. So, if i reply to something, there might a few other posts that I couldn't read before submitting mine.
Which ones are you talking about? I usually read the post that I'm replying to and only scan others, but sometimes I post something and there might be other posts that haven't gotten to me. So, if i reply to something, there might a few other posts that I couldn't read before submitting mine.
Not that it really matters, but if you look at your post you can't miss mine. It's just above yours.
Who knows what the proper clock speed is for the Apple A7 chips, they are the ones that designed it and they clock the chips at what works best from two perspectives.
Dual core 1.7. Don't know (or care) about the co-processor.
On a device with so little RAM, it's not like 64-addressing will be used anytime soon.
On a device that largely needs to avoid doing lots of processing, having a 64 bit processor means more wattage is needed to do the same basic tasks. Apple should have worked on specializing power-hungry tasks rather than upgrade to 64 bits.
It's an initial step into a future that will require such needs?
I wonder why they haven't adapted Wireless AC. Also, I guess they've decided against adapting NFC. Besides these two minor things, I was very surprised by the 64-bit A-7, 64-bit kernel, and M-7 chip.
Really, nobody cares what you think, especially Apple.
I don't appreciate your snark.
I defend Apple on this forum plenty and have a right to my opinion. I didn't troll and predict a failure, I just said I wasn't particularly impressed with the pricing.
All the reviews and ratings for the Tesla S speak anything you would have otherwise. Apple doesn't give a frick about idiots too stupid to not pay enough to get quality.
All the reviews and ratings for the Tesla S speak anything you would have otherwise. Apple doesn't give a frick about idiots too stupid to not pay enough to get quality.
So either shut up and explain where I'm wrong or deal with the fact that you are.
Not for nothing, you only talk so hard because you are on the internet, that's a fact, anywhere else I can tell you, you wouldn't be, you have no respect & you won't get any from me.
Apparently you can try to defend the pricing, I say Try.
This isn't a brag at all, I make quite a bit of money from what I do for work, a high tax bracket, I spent lots on tech, more than anyone I know (this isn't a good thing, people see it as a sickness).
Many of my tech purchases are Apple products, I defend Apple to my friends & to my co-workers.
This isn't my view but the tech world (broadly speaking) The Samsung Galaxy S4 & the HTC One are flagship phones. compared to the iPhone, by many reviewers they are considered better than the iPhone 5 (i'm not saying I agree with them) but none the less, the line has been marked, features & benchmarks & all other crap, the build quality of the HTC One is similar to the iPhone 5, which is to say that it is very good, yet the iPhone is $500 more than the HTC One, tell me, how would you explain without personal bias, how is the iPhone worth more than the S4 or HTC One?, seriously? i have my view, i have my preference, i have my standards, but does everyone share them?, the truth is, No. The analogy of the Tesla S doesn't fly here, we are talking about 3 very popular phones, the iPhone & the HTC One, similar in quality & both are a uni-body aluminium & the S4 feels cheap, software you can argue which you prefer & why, its all subjective, I prefer iOS, your neighbors dog might prefer android, that's up to him.
So if you compared 2 cars of similar features, build quality in the same class & both are very popular & one of them is twice the price, then it would be closer to how things are. After all that, its simple, i know the margin is one way apple makes its money, but the price is high, I can afford it, but can i justify it, No.
Not for nothing, you only talk so hard because you are on the internet, that's a fact, anywhere else I can tell you, you wouldn't be, you have no respect & you won't get any from me.
Apparently you can try to defend the pricing, I say Try.
This isn't a brag at all, I make quite a bit of money from what I do for work, a high tax bracket, I spent lots on tech, more than anyone I know (this isn't a good thing, people see it as a sickness).
Many of my tech purchases are Apple products, I defend Apple to my friends & to my co-workers.
This isn't my view but the tech world (broadly speaking) The Samsung Galaxy S4 & the HTC One are flagship phones. compared to the iPhone, by many reviewers they are considered better than the iPhone 5 (i'm not saying I agree with them) but none the less, the line has been marked, features & benchmarks & all other crap, the build quality of the HTC One is similar to the iPhone 5, which is to say that it is very good, yet the iPhone is $500 more than the HTC One, tell me, how would you explain without personal bias, how is the iPhone worth more than the S4 or HTC One?, seriously? i have my view, i have my preference, i have my standards, but does everyone share them?, the truth is, No.
The analogy of the Tesla S doesn't fly here, we are talking about 3 very popular phones, the iPhone & the HTC One, similar in quality & both are a uni-body aluminium & the S4 feels cheap, software you can argue which you prefer & why, its all subjective, I prefer iOS, your neighbors dog might prefer android, that's up to him.
So if you compared 2 cars of similar features, build quality in the same class & both are very popular & one of them is twice the price, then it would be closer to how things are.
After all that, its simple, i know the margin is one way apple makes its money, but the price is high, I can afford it, but can i justify it, No.
The HTC One is a 32 Bit processor, it's more comparable with regards to the guts inside to the 5c, not the 5s. So the HTC One is like a 5c on the inside but the outside of a 5s. I don't know how well the camera compares until we see side by side comparisons between them, but since Google hasn't announced a 64 bit version of Android, the Android phones will only go so far in what OS they'll run. The 5s has some legs on it, so to speak. Knowing how Apple does their OS for the desktop, it was loading whichever version that hardware supported until they complete the transition to 64 bit, which in Apple's case will take about 3 years until all of their mobile devices are 64 bit. Obviously, it's going to be a LONG time until the Android mfg can spit out $300 or less 64 bit processors, so the ultra low end market is going to be 32 bit probably for the next 5 to 7 years or so with Android until they competely get rid of 32 bit processors, then it takes another 2 years to get the users off of the product they bought. With Apple, it's basically about 3 years to get a full line of 64 bit, and then another 2 to get the users off of 32 bit, but in the mean time, I'm sure the OS will just load whichever version your device needs and the same goes with the apps. Apple can run both 32 and 64 bit on a 64 bit OS, which they do on OS X.
I wouldn't compare the HTC One with a 5s, it more of a upscale 5c for the price of a 5s. Seriously, two different class of processors.
I wouldn't compare the HTC One with a 5s, it more of a upscale 5c for the price of a 5s. Seriously, two different class of processors.
I get what you're saying.
The way I see it, the move to 64bit processors is an investment in the future, the pay off for Apple, this isn't as big as it will be, Apple is ahead of the curve, Android isn't really doing quadcore properly now, so when phones are pushing even higher specs, apple will just keep on moving, that's when Google will realize they need to recompile everything & play catch up again (moving to 64Bit), this sort of forward planning isn't really being noticed by the typical buyer? is it?.
On a device with so little RAM, it's not like 64-addressing will be used anytime soon.
On a device that largely needs to avoid doing lots of processing, having a 64 bit processor means more wattage is needed to do the same basic tasks. Apple should have worked on specializing power-hungry tasks rather than upgrade to 64 bits.
Save this post for the Samsung S5 with 64-bit hardware running 32-bit OS. Also, what makes you think they haven't been working on specializing on power-hungry tasks.... Like adding the M7?
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Every single iPhone has been underclocked. They will not be "restoring" anything in the 8th iPhone, because it will get its own, new processor which itself will be underclocked. Be quiet.
Don't use it. HOLY COW, WHAT A CONCEPT.
Who knows what the proper clock speed is for the Apple A7 chips, they are the ones that designed it and they clock the chips at what works best from two perspectives. One is what are the best yields in terms of speed and what works best from a heat, power, speed perspective. Remember, when the chips roll off the assembly line, they get tested and thrown into different speed lots. They more chips that get rated at slower speeds. Plus, a slower speed chip won't require as much power, generate as much heat and will be more reliable.
Who knows what the proper clock speed is for the Apple A7 chips, they are the ones that designed it and they clock the chips at what works best from two perspectives. One is what are the best yields in terms of speed and what works best from a heat, power, speed perspective. Remember, when the chips roll off the assembly line, they get tested and thrown into different speed lots. They more chips that get rated at slower speeds. Plus, a slower speed chip won't require as much power, generate as much heat and will be more reliable.
Exactly. And Apple only ONCE upped the clock of a chip. The first-gen iPhone used a 600MHz chip downclocked to 412MHz. The first-gen iPod touch used the same chip, clocked at 400MHz. In… hoo… 1.1.3? I think it was, the clock was upped to 412 to match the iPhone. Other than that: never.
I guess you read the two posts just before yours.
Which ones are you talking about? I usually read the post that I'm replying to and only scan others, but sometimes I post something and there might be other posts that haven't gotten to me. So, if i reply to something, there might a few other posts that I couldn't read before submitting mine.
Not that it really matters, but if you look at your post you can't miss mine. It's just above yours.
It's fun to edit, and then AirPlay to the big screen.
Dual core 1.7. Don't know (or care) about the co-processor.
That's because the Surface needs all the support it can get.
On a device with so little RAM, it's not like 64-addressing will be used anytime soon.
On a device that largely needs to avoid doing lots of processing, having a 64 bit processor means more wattage is needed to do the same basic tasks. Apple should have worked on specializing power-hungry tasks rather than upgrade to 64 bits.
It's an initial step into a future that will require such needs?
And where did you get the specs of the A7 if Apple hasn't released those specs?
I don't appreciate your snark.
I defend Apple on this forum plenty and have a right to my opinion. I didn't troll and predict a failure, I just said I wasn't particularly impressed with the pricing.
I didn't troll and predict a failure, I just said I wasn't particularly impressed with the pricing.
Yeah I agree.
Everyone at my work laughed about it, joking that the iPhone 5c is more expensive than the S4 (which can be found outright for $400 AU)
Then they howled over the 5S pricing, this is one of those things, I can defend a lot, I can't defend the pricing.
I can defend a lot, I can't defend the pricing.
You can buy two Fort Taurus for the price of one Tesla S. But no one wants a Taurus.
You can buy two Fort Taurus for the price of one Tesla S. But no one wants a Taurus.
Not sure what to say.
Not sure what to say.
All the reviews and ratings for the Tesla S speak anything you would have otherwise. Apple doesn't give a frick about idiots too stupid to not pay enough to get quality.
Quote:All the reviews and ratings for the Tesla S speak anything you would have otherwise. Apple doesn't give a frick about idiots too stupid to not pay enough to get quality.
So either shut up and explain where I'm wrong or deal with the fact that you are.
So either shut up and explain where I'm wrong or deal with the fact that you are.
Not for nothing, you only talk so hard because you are on the internet, that's a fact, anywhere else I can tell you, you wouldn't be, you have no respect & you won't get any from me.
Apparently you can try to defend the pricing, I say Try.
This isn't a brag at all, I make quite a bit of money from what I do for work, a high tax bracket, I spent lots on tech, more than anyone I know (this isn't a good thing, people see it as a sickness).
Many of my tech purchases are Apple products, I defend Apple to my friends & to my co-workers.
This isn't my view but the tech world (broadly speaking) The Samsung Galaxy S4 & the HTC One are flagship phones. compared to the iPhone, by many reviewers they are considered better than the iPhone 5 (i'm not saying I agree with them) but none the less, the line has been marked, features & benchmarks & all other crap, the build quality of the HTC One is similar to the iPhone 5, which is to say that it is very good, yet the iPhone is $500 more than the HTC One, tell me, how would you explain without personal bias, how is the iPhone worth more than the S4 or HTC One?, seriously? i have my view, i have my preference, i have my standards, but does everyone share them?, the truth is, No.
The analogy of the Tesla S doesn't fly here, we are talking about 3 very popular phones, the iPhone & the HTC One, similar in quality & both are a uni-body aluminium & the S4 feels cheap, software you can argue which you prefer & why, its all subjective, I prefer iOS, your neighbors dog might prefer android, that's up to him.
So if you compared 2 cars of similar features, build quality in the same class & both are very popular & one of them is twice the price, then it would be closer to how things are.
After all that, its simple, i know the margin is one way apple makes its money, but the price is high, I can afford it, but can i justify it, No.
Not for nothing, you only talk so hard because you are on the internet, that's a fact, anywhere else I can tell you, you wouldn't be, you have no respect & you won't get any from me.
Apparently you can try to defend the pricing, I say Try.
This isn't a brag at all, I make quite a bit of money from what I do for work, a high tax bracket, I spent lots on tech, more than anyone I know (this isn't a good thing, people see it as a sickness).
Many of my tech purchases are Apple products, I defend Apple to my friends & to my co-workers.
This isn't my view but the tech world (broadly speaking) The Samsung Galaxy S4 & the HTC One are flagship phones. compared to the iPhone, by many reviewers they are considered better than the iPhone 5 (i'm not saying I agree with them) but none the less, the line has been marked, features & benchmarks & all other crap, the build quality of the HTC One is similar to the iPhone 5, which is to say that it is very good, yet the iPhone is $500 more than the HTC One, tell me, how would you explain without personal bias, how is the iPhone worth more than the S4 or HTC One?, seriously? i have my view, i have my preference, i have my standards, but does everyone share them?, the truth is, No.
The analogy of the Tesla S doesn't fly here, we are talking about 3 very popular phones, the iPhone & the HTC One, similar in quality & both are a uni-body aluminium & the S4 feels cheap, software you can argue which you prefer & why, its all subjective, I prefer iOS, your neighbors dog might prefer android, that's up to him.
So if you compared 2 cars of similar features, build quality in the same class & both are very popular & one of them is twice the price, then it would be closer to how things are.
After all that, its simple, i know the margin is one way apple makes its money, but the price is high, I can afford it, but can i justify it, No.
The HTC One is a 32 Bit processor, it's more comparable with regards to the guts inside to the 5c, not the 5s. So the HTC One is like a 5c on the inside but the outside of a 5s. I don't know how well the camera compares until we see side by side comparisons between them, but since Google hasn't announced a 64 bit version of Android, the Android phones will only go so far in what OS they'll run. The 5s has some legs on it, so to speak. Knowing how Apple does their OS for the desktop, it was loading whichever version that hardware supported until they complete the transition to 64 bit, which in Apple's case will take about 3 years until all of their mobile devices are 64 bit. Obviously, it's going to be a LONG time until the Android mfg can spit out $300 or less 64 bit processors, so the ultra low end market is going to be 32 bit probably for the next 5 to 7 years or so with Android until they competely get rid of 32 bit processors, then it takes another 2 years to get the users off of the product they bought. With Apple, it's basically about 3 years to get a full line of 64 bit, and then another 2 to get the users off of 32 bit, but in the mean time, I'm sure the OS will just load whichever version your device needs and the same goes with the apps. Apple can run both 32 and 64 bit on a 64 bit OS, which they do on OS X.
I wouldn't compare the HTC One with a 5s, it more of a upscale 5c for the price of a 5s. Seriously, two different class of processors.
I wouldn't compare the HTC One with a 5s, it more of a upscale 5c for the price of a 5s. Seriously, two different class of processors.
I get what you're saying.
The way I see it, the move to 64bit processors is an investment in the future, the pay off for Apple, this isn't as big as it will be, Apple is ahead of the curve, Android isn't really doing quadcore properly now, so when phones are pushing even higher specs, apple will just keep on moving, that's when Google will realize they need to recompile everything & play catch up again (moving to 64Bit), this sort of forward planning isn't really being noticed by the typical buyer? is it?.
What's the value difference between the AU dollar, the USD, and Korean currency? International pricing is tricky.
My guess is that Asian companies have an advantage selling to Oceania area.
On a device with so little RAM, it's not like 64-addressing will be used anytime soon.
On a device that largely needs to avoid doing lots of processing, having a 64 bit processor means more wattage is needed to do the same basic tasks. Apple should have worked on specializing power-hungry tasks rather than upgrade to 64 bits.
Save this post for the Samsung S5 with 64-bit hardware running 32-bit OS. Also, what makes you think they haven't been working on specializing on power-hungry tasks.... Like adding the M7?