"Touch ID can be used for passcodes to unlock the device ..."
What does this actually mean though? If TouchID (a fingerprint) can be used to unlock the device, why not say that? Does this mean you need a fingerprint *and* a passcode to unlock the device? In conjunction with the picture posted beside the statement this is clear as mud.
12 months for this? Stock price is going to get crushed.
Maybe, but only because the stock price is completely removed from reality. What I do know is that the iPhone will sell more than ever, continue to be the best selling phone by a huge margin, and Apple will make even more in profit.
I think I need to set this right: the new iPhone looks great! And if I had the money I would instantly replace my current iPhone 5. The thing is, as many here said, it would have been really interesting to see this possibly distinctive feature in action. Instead, all they said was 'it gets better with usage'. In the past Apple showed more confidence with feature introductions, touting it as great and demoing this. I would have enjoyed this at today's keynote.
Nice that they show the setup where it scans multiple parts to get a good scan of the finger. The overall OS runs really fast too. No matter how many core they put into competing phones, they still can't seem to achieve that level of fluidity.
Seriously, do the Android manufacturers have a warehouse of people in China for posting anti-Apple comments? I refuse to believe humanity is this stupid overall.
Man, was this disappointing or what? A year, they had a year and they come up with a fingerprint sensor that is good for nothing except unlocking you phone? This is all Apple is capable of? Really?
I think this finger print sensor is a very powerful law enforcement device. Imagine that it will record the finger print of a thief and be turned over to law enforcement upon request by the legitimate owner.
"However, early reports suggest that a majority of the event’s attendees were unimpressed by the panicked man, with critics complaining that the creatively bankrupt individual is “largely useless” and a stark departure from the company’s visionary and industry-leading ethos."
Man, was this disappointing or what? A year, they had a year and they come up with a fingerprint sensor that is good for nothing except unlocking you phone? This is all Apple is capable of? Really?
You mean the sensor no one else has been capable of launching on a phone, ever? The Atrix is the only phone that's ever had one and it was completely unintuitive, and was removed from the product 2 months after release because it was failing for everyone. The same goes for those fingerprint sensors on notebook computers: they fail, they break, they cease to work. That's not good consumer electronics. Things must be useful, and they must continue to work.
I'm being genuine here in saying if the single only new thing Apple brought out this year is a fingerprint sensor that's intuitive, that works well and doesn't give trouble over time it will be one of the most important years in Apple's company history. If they pull this off it will be a definitively—Apple move. And then in October 2014, when the sensor is proven in the market with a year under its belt, Apple will add it to all of their iDevices, and eventually, Macs. This is how Apple operates, and it works for them. And it works for users too. Users don't want 1,000,000 new features every year. They want 1 or 2 genuinely useful additional features that they will use regularly. We'll leave it to Samesong to add 10 new gimmicks every year, or try to cater to every single customer imaginable. Rather than make something they would actually love to use themselves.
You mean the sensor no one else has been capable of launching on a phone, ever? The Atrix is the only phone that's ever had one and it was completely unintuitive, and was removed from the product 2 months after release because it was failing for everyone.
I'm being genuine here in saying if the single only new thing Apple brought out this year is a fingerprint sensor that's intuitive, that works well and doesn't give trouble over time it will be one of the most important years in Apple's company history. If they pull this off it will be a definitively Apple move. And then in October 2014, when the sensor is proven in the market with a year under its belt, Apple will add it too all or their iPads and iPhones, and eventually, Macs. This is how Apple operates, and it works for them. And it works for users too. Users don't want 1,000,000 new features every year. They want 1 or 2 genuinely useful additional features that they will use regularly. We'll leave it to Samesong to add 10 new gimmicks every year.
I think this sensor will save the user a few seconds each time. In all it will save iPhone users hundreds of millions of seconds each day. This is what convenience is about.
How will the NSA/law enforcement backdoor work for the fingerprint sensor? And, yes, of course there will be one since the NSA/police/etc would have asked Apple for one well ahead of time.
How will the NSA/law enforcement backdoor work for the fingerprint sensor? And, yes, of course there will be one since the NSA/police/etc would have asked Apple for one well ahead of time.
I don't think NSA will need the finger print sensor to identify the legitimate owner. They can do this today already.
I don't think NSA will need the finger print sensor to identify the legitimate owner. They can do this today already.
My point is that when law enforcement/three letter agencies want to get into a suspect's iPhone and read their notes/contacts/etc, they're going to want a back door since they already have PIN cracking software.
I think this sensor will save the user a few seconds each time. In all it will save iPhone users hundreds of millions of seconds each day. This is what convenience is about.
That would be truly amazing since a day only has 86, 400 seconds.
I don't think NSA will need the finger print sensor to identify the legitimate owner. They can do this today already.
My point is that when law enforcement/three letter agencies want to get into a suspect's iPhone and read their notes/contacts/etc, they're going to want a back door since they already have PIN cracking software.
I think in most cases law enforcement agency will have the suspect in custody in addition to the phone.
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"Touch ID can be used for passcodes to unlock the device ..."
What does this actually mean though? If TouchID (a fingerprint) can be used to unlock the device, why not say that? Does this mean you need a fingerprint *and* a passcode to unlock the device? In conjunction with the picture posted beside the statement this is clear as mud.
Either or...
I just saw a video of Touch ID in action, and it seems to work extremely fast.
Infuriating. They *also* fail to actually clearly demo what's going on, or how it actually works.
Then they do ten minutes of blah blah about the (slightly) better camera.
Grrr...
It's the flagship feature of the new product. Why isn't Apple providing any information on this?
Infuriating. They *also* fail to actually clearly demo what's going on, or how it actually works.
Then they do ten minutes of blah blah about the (slightly) better camera.
Grrr...
It's the flagship feature of the new product. Why isn't Apple providing any information on this?
What are you confused about?
You can EITHER scan your print OR enter a passcode.
The only thing unclear is whether you can require BOTH be entered in settings for double security.
Infuriating. They *also* fail to actually clearly demo what's going on, or how it actually works.
Ever stop to think that maybe it's not that simple when having to have multiple people demo on the phone at once?
12 months for this? Stock price is going to get crushed.
Maybe, but only because the stock price is completely removed from reality. What I do know is that the iPhone will sell more than ever, continue to be the best selling phone by a huge margin, and Apple will make even more in profit.
MacApfel, I heard none of the new features work.
Maybe read anything at all about the product, then.
I think I need to set this right: the new iPhone looks great! And if I had the money I would instantly replace my current iPhone 5. The thing is, as many here said, it would have been really interesting to see this possibly distinctive feature in action. Instead, all they said was 'it gets better with usage'. In the past Apple showed more confidence with feature introductions, touting it as great and demoing this. I would have enjoyed this at today's keynote.
Nice that they show the setup where it scans multiple parts to get a good scan of the finger. The overall OS runs really fast too. No matter how many core they put into competing phones, they still can't seem to achieve that level of fluidity.
Interesting comments on that video btw.
Seriously, do the Android manufacturers have a warehouse of people in China for posting anti-Apple comments? I refuse to believe humanity is this stupid overall.
Man, was this disappointing or what? A year, they had a year and they come up with a fingerprint sensor that is good for nothing except unlocking you phone? This is all Apple is capable of? Really?
I think this finger print sensor is a very powerful law enforcement device. Imagine that it will record the finger print of a thief and be turned over to law enforcement upon request by the legitimate owner.
"However, early reports suggest that a majority of the event’s attendees were unimpressed by the panicked man, with critics complaining that the creatively bankrupt individual is “largely useless” and a stark departure from the company’s visionary and industry-leading ethos."
http://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-unveils-panicked-ideafree-man-at-launch-even,33814
Man, was this disappointing or what? A year, they had a year and they come up with a fingerprint sensor that is good for nothing except unlocking you phone? This is all Apple is capable of? Really?
You mean the sensor no one else has been capable of launching on a phone, ever? The Atrix is the only phone that's ever had one and it was completely unintuitive, and was removed from the product 2 months after release because it was failing for everyone. The same goes for those fingerprint sensors on notebook computers: they fail, they break, they cease to work. That's not good consumer electronics. Things must be useful, and they must continue to work.
I'm being genuine here in saying if the single only new thing Apple brought out this year is a fingerprint sensor that's intuitive, that works well and doesn't give trouble over time it will be one of the most important years in Apple's company history. If they pull this off it will be a definitively—Apple move. And then in October 2014, when the sensor is proven in the market with a year under its belt, Apple will add it to all of their iDevices, and eventually, Macs. This is how Apple operates, and it works for them. And it works for users too. Users don't want 1,000,000 new features every year. They want 1 or 2 genuinely useful additional features that they will use regularly. We'll leave it to Samesong to add 10 new gimmicks every year, or try to cater to every single customer imaginable. Rather than make something they would actually love to use themselves.
You mean the sensor no one else has been capable of launching on a phone, ever? The Atrix is the only phone that's ever had one and it was completely unintuitive, and was removed from the product 2 months after release because it was failing for everyone.
I'm being genuine here in saying if the single only new thing Apple brought out this year is a fingerprint sensor that's intuitive, that works well and doesn't give trouble over time it will be one of the most important years in Apple's company history. If they pull this off it will be a definitively Apple move. And then in October 2014, when the sensor is proven in the market with a year under its belt, Apple will add it too all or their iPads and iPhones, and eventually, Macs. This is how Apple operates, and it works for them. And it works for users too. Users don't want 1,000,000 new features every year. They want 1 or 2 genuinely useful additional features that they will use regularly. We'll leave it to Samesong to add 10 new gimmicks every year.
I think this sensor will save the user a few seconds each time. In all it will save iPhone users hundreds of millions of seconds each day. This is what convenience is about.
How will the NSA/law enforcement backdoor work for the fingerprint sensor? And, yes, of course there will be one since the NSA/police/etc would have asked Apple for one well ahead of time.
I don't think NSA will need the finger print sensor to identify the legitimate owner. They can do this today already.
I don't think NSA will need the finger print sensor to identify the legitimate owner. They can do this today already.
My point is that when law enforcement/three letter agencies want to get into a suspect's iPhone and read their notes/contacts/etc, they're going to want a back door since they already have PIN cracking software.That would be truly amazing since a day only has 86, 400 seconds.
I don't think NSA will need the finger print sensor to identify the legitimate owner. They can do this today already.
My point is that when law enforcement/three letter agencies want to get into a suspect's iPhone and read their notes/contacts/etc, they're going to want a back door since they already have PIN cracking software.
I think in most cases law enforcement agency will have the suspect in custody in addition to the phone.