IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
Really? My wife and I are way past that age range and love iOS 7. Maybe you need some of those special vitamin tablets.
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
Do you have survey results on that? I don't mind the color scheme although the motion should be optional. I predict you will be wrong. There wasn't a revolt when OS 9 when to OS X.
So you're saying the 2nd gen Nexus 7 is a POS? Funny all the reviews said it was a vast improvement over the first device. Sticking A6 in the mini and calling it a day is bullshit. Apple is better than that.
Do you have survey results on that? I don't mind the color scheme although the motion should be optional. I predict you will be wrong. There wasn't a revolt when OS 9 when to OS X.
All the people who complain about iOS 7 have nothing but maybe anecdotal evidence to back it up. Mixpanel is showing iOS 7 adoption at 62%.
Just imagine if a headline read … "All car makers, world wide, combined are approaching the sales revenue of BMW."
I bet BMW would be pretty happy and the stock value would be pretty high.
Alas, when it's tablets and Apple this is bad news I'm sure …
I see your point but when you look at it from the other side, one could argue that Apple's profit from iPad sales exceeds all other tablet manufacturers combined.
It makes no sense to reverse the equation when there are no profits on the competitor's side.
How do we sell below cost? We make it up in volume!
Do you have survey results on that? I don't mind the color scheme although the motion should be optional. I predict you will be wrong. There wasn't a revolt when OS 9 when to OS X.
iOS 7 has been out only one week. There may be surveys but the long term adoption or lack there of will not be evident for a year or so as carrier contracts expire. Down grading to iOS 6 is not an option. If you don't like it you are stuck until you can get out of your contract.
And BYW there was a huge revolt concerning 10.0. It was terrible and nothing worked but fortunately they made classic available to help with the transition. Eventually it was improved and I hope the same can be said for iOS 7+
Just curious where all these unsold tablets are. When they do exist we find out about it in company financials ala Microsoft and Surface. Have Samsung, Asus or Amazon has to take a write down because of unsold tablets?
The issue isn't shipped vs sold (and Apple includes shipments to resellers in their sales figures). The issue is these analytic firms don't have actual shipped figures, they're just estimated and we have no way of auditing their numbers.
Are these ridiculous tit-tat, tit-tat battles and declarations of wars won ever going to end? What I mean is that it seems like one week someone claims iOS is up, the next week someone (else?) claims Android is up, one is up, one is down, the future is good, the future is bad, Apple is the best, Android is the best, one, the other, back to the one, back to the other. Doesn't anyone else see this? Beyond the psychotic analyses that seem to keep contradicting each other, is there anyone else in the room sane enough to declare, "it's a facade, it doesn't matter"?
iOS 7 has been out only one week. There may be surveys but the long term adoption or lack there of will not be evident for a year or so as carrier contracts expire. Down grading to iOS 6 is not an option. If you don't like it you are stuck until you can get out of your contract.
But it could be that the more people use it and get used to it they like it. It is completely different than iOS 6 so for some people it might take a while to get used to. Sure there will be some people who never like it but I'd be surprised if a lot of people leave iOS because of it, especially when some of the criticism is its too much like Android or Windows Phone. Also it's pretty obvious that a lot was done in a short amount of time (7 months or so) so I would expect iOS 7 to be refined and made better over time. This is the beginning not the end.
If you want to make a young girl cry and/or have your wife think you're a putz....buy them a tablet other than an iPad Mini this Xmas (even w/o a R display!)
Hey ABI, news flash, apple is getting ready to ship new iPads and the quarter before the announcement, sales drop for Apple as it gives android mfg a little room to sell their crap. When Apple announces and releases their products, Android products will drop in sales while apple sales take off and they recapture market share.
Also it's pretty obvious that a lot was done in a short amount of time (7 months or so) so I would expect iOS 7 to be refined and made better over time. This is the beginning not the end.
First impressions are very important. Releasing something so half baked (my opinion) was a mistake. For example they did not release Mavericks just because the iMacs were refreshed. For some reason they are fixated on a new iPhone having a new OS. Personally I think iOS 7 design cues are ill conceived regardless of whether it was technically release ready or not.
Utter nonsense!!! #1. The iPad mini is already the best selling tablet in the world even without a retina display which makes your comment ridiculous. #2. People absolutely positively pay for the pad because of its superior OS and ecosystem, along with superior user experience, superior build quality, superior service and support, superior resale value by far, etc. etc. etc. - that is not going to change!
Geez I hope Apple doesn't have it's head in the sand like some people here do. Do you have a source for the mini being the best selling tablet in the world? Last time I checked Apple doesn't break out sales figures between the full size iPad and the mini.
I guess I'm a little confused why so many think it's perfectly fine for the mini to stay non retina. Apple doesn't currently sell an iPhone or iPod touch that is non retina. iOS 7 was designed for retina displays. Other companies are releasing tablets with very high quality displays. Part of me thinks the $329 price tag for the mini was so Apple could release a retina mini this year and not have to raise the price. But if all Apple does is stick A6 in the mini and maybe upgrade the camera or something I'll be very disappointed. And I think Apple will be inviting competitors to take market share from them.
First impressions are very important. Releasing something so half baked (my opinion) was a mistake. For example they did not release Mavericks just because the iMacs were refreshed. For some reason they are fixated on a new iPhone having a new OS. Personally I think iOS 7 design cues are ill conceived regardless of whether it was technically release ready or not.
Maybe your personal view is not in harmony with the majority of everyone else's. Everyone I know loves iOS7. There, I have anecdote evidence too.
In the same vein, I could speculate how many people Apple would lose because of the stale iOS 6 had they kept the look.
Also, if Apple had released a new phone without a new OS, they'd have been skewered.
First impressions are very important. Releasing something so half baked (my opinion) was a mistake. For example they did not release Mavericks just because the iMacs were refreshed. For some reason they are fixated on a new iPhone having a new OS. Personally I think iOS 7 design cues are ill conceived regardless of whether it was technically release ready or not.
Apple is waiting to release Mavericks with either new rMBP or Mac Pro. You might think iOS 7 is half baked. I don't. And I know a lot of people who upgraded and said to me it's like they have a new phone. I'm not suggesting iOS 7 is perfect and doesn't have any flaws But it doesn't bother me that Apple released something that wasn't perfect. Because I know it's the beginning and I know it can become something great. I also know people hate change. It's not like it hasn't happened before, like when Apple first released OS X. Honestly I don't think there is anything so awful in iOS 7 that it will make general non techie consumers bolt to Android or Windows Phone.
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Really? My wife and I are way past that age range and love iOS 7. Maybe you need some of those special vitamin tablets.
Do you have survey results on that? I don't mind the color scheme although the motion should be optional. I predict you will be wrong. There wasn't a revolt when OS 9 when to OS X.
Just imagine if a headline read … "All car makers, world wide, combined are approaching the sales revenue of BMW."
I bet BMW would be pretty happy and the stock value would be pretty high.
Alas, when it's tablets and Apple this is bad news I'm sure …
I see your point but when you look at it from the other side, one could argue that Apple's profit from iPad sales exceeds all other tablet manufacturers combined.
It makes no sense to reverse the equation when there are no profits on the competitor's side.
How do we sell below cost? We make it up in volume!
iOS 7 has been out only one week. There may be surveys but the long term adoption or lack there of will not be evident for a year or so as carrier contracts expire. Down grading to iOS 6 is not an option. If you don't like it you are stuck until you can get out of your contract.
And BYW there was a huge revolt concerning 10.0. It was terrible and nothing worked but fortunately they made classic available to help with the transition. Eventually it was improved and I hope the same can be said for iOS 7+
Bet the numbers include the Amazon tablets.
Just curious where all these unsold tablets are. When they do exist we find out about it in company financials ala Microsoft and Surface. Have Samsung, Asus or Amazon has to take a write down because of unsold tablets?
The issue isn't shipped vs sold (and Apple includes shipments to resellers in their sales figures). The issue is these analytic firms don't have actual shipped figures, they're just estimated and we have no way of auditing their numbers.
Really? You must live in China
Nope.
Are these ridiculous tit-tat, tit-tat battles and declarations of wars won ever going to end? What I mean is that it seems like one week someone claims iOS is up, the next week someone (else?) claims Android is up, one is up, one is down, the future is good, the future is bad, Apple is the best, Android is the best, one, the other, back to the one, back to the other. Doesn't anyone else see this? Beyond the psychotic analyses that seem to keep contradicting each other, is there anyone else in the room sane enough to declare, "it's a facade, it doesn't matter"?
If you want to make a young girl cry and/or have your wife think you're a putz....buy them a tablet other than an iPad Mini this Xmas (even w/o a R display!)
First impressions are very important. Releasing something so half baked (my opinion) was a mistake. For example they did not release Mavericks just because the iMacs were refreshed. For some reason they are fixated on a new iPhone having a new OS. Personally I think iOS 7 design cues are ill conceived regardless of whether it was technically release ready or not.
Geez I hope Apple doesn't have it's head in the sand like some people here do. Do you have a source for the mini being the best selling tablet in the world? Last time I checked Apple doesn't break out sales figures between the full size iPad and the mini.
I guess I'm a little confused why so many think it's perfectly fine for the mini to stay non retina. Apple doesn't currently sell an iPhone or iPod touch that is non retina. iOS 7 was designed for retina displays. Other companies are releasing tablets with very high quality displays. Part of me thinks the $329 price tag for the mini was so Apple could release a retina mini this year and not have to raise the price. But if all Apple does is stick A6 in the mini and maybe upgrade the camera or something I'll be very disappointed. And I think Apple will be inviting competitors to take market share from them.
These companies are paid by google, etc. to put out propaganda claiming success. It's not real.
If the numbers were this good, google would publish them in its quarterly reports. So would samsung, etc.
This is just lies put forth as propaganda for clueless dupes to repring... too bad Apple Insider reprints them without thinking about them.
Average Sales Price is approaching iPads? Are there even android tablets that sell for $329 or more?
The Sony Xperia Z was European tablet of the year and I think lists for $499 to $599 depending upon the model.
Maybe your personal view is not in harmony with the majority of everyone else's. Everyone I know loves iOS7. There, I have anecdote evidence too.
In the same vein, I could speculate how many people Apple would lose because of the stale iOS 6 had they kept the look.
Also, if Apple had released a new phone without a new OS, they'd have been skewered.