On my informal research, people do buy Android tablets. However they are usually for gifts or purchased by people who don't know any better. They try to use them, get frustrated and stick them in a drawer somewhere where they are forgotten and alone. Maybe they will be given to some poor unsuspecting child who then finds the phablet size to be perfect for skipping across the local body of water.
In otherwords... they are either a) on shelves awaiting to be purchased by some unknowing consumer at CVS or b) activated c) used for a week d) discarded.
I say all that knowing that there are a few really good Android tablets like the Amazon Kindle. I'd recommend that to anyone. But most devices are terribly hard to use for the average consumer and are relegated either to computer geeks, or the trash bin.
Perhaps more importantly, ABI's research found that tablets running Android are finally approaching Apple's offerings in terms of revenue generated. The overall tablet market for the second quarter of 2013 reached $12.7 billion in value. Of that, the iPad represented 50 percent of worldwide end-user revenues, the first time that has happened, according to ABI.
The firm also found that the average sale price (ASP) for iPads is "rapidly approaching" the average of the rest of the market. iPad ASP dropped 17 percent last quarter, while ASP for Android-powered tablets rose 17 percent over the same period.
I call BS.
The cheapest Apple tablet is $329. There are millions of Android tablets selling for under $100 and few over $329, much less the $500 or more of most iPads. There's no way in the world that the average selling price for Android tablets is even close to the average for iPads.
But what do you expect from someone called the "Media Tablets, Ultrabooks and eReaders Research Service"?
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
Apple needs to adapt iOS specifically to take advantage of the iPad size.
They can't. They have to make sure iOS works with a wide variety of manufacturer devices, video cards, screen sizes. Oh wait, did I say iOS? I meant Windows. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Why in the world reprint this "analysis" with a straight face? Why could estimates from ABI be deemed trustworthy, any more than those from Strategy Analytics and IBC? What is their methodology? Who are their clients? What is the margin of error in their estimates? etc. The usual questions that never get asked or answered.
IMO, as long as Samsung and other tablet makers refuse to provide unit sales figures in securities documents, then estimates by "independent analysts" such be deemed just so much PR for Apple's competitors.
How is it that Amazon and Asus don't seem to have a problem shipping tablets with retina like (or better than retina) displays? The 2nd gen Nexus is not a thick and heavy piece of garbage with terrible battery life. It's very similar in weight to iPad mini and according to AnandTech gets about 12 hours battery life. There's no excuse for the 2nd gen mini not to have retina. And if someone throws out the term "margins" then I ask the question, is Apple a product company or a profit margin company?
IMO no retina mini this year is basically Apple handing the tablet space to the competition on a silver platter. Sorry but paying a "premium" for the iOS ecosystem and Apple customer support won't be enough. The products need to be better. And with a retina mini Apple would basically own the tablet market again.
Utter nonsense!!! #1. The iPad mini is already the best selling tablet in the world even without a retina display which makes your comment ridiculous. #2. People absolutely positively pay for the pad because of its superior OS and ecosystem, along with superior user experience, superior build quality, superior service and support, superior resale value by far, etc. etc. etc. - that is not going to change!
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
Radical abandonment for what? Green and purple Windows 8 Metro?
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I'm talking about the new Kindle tablets and the 2nd gen Nexus, not cheap POS devices for China.
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
BS! Go take a nap.
By its very definition a prediction cannot be BS because it relates to something in the future. You can come back in a year or so and say my prediction was incorrect but BS is defined as something being untrue in the present.
I'm an expat living in China and see very few Android tablets in major metropolitan areas. They are even using iPads in restaurants to display menus and take orders.
Radical abandonment for what? Green and purple Windows 8 Metro?
That is certainly a possibility, but I was thinking more along the lines of Android. I only upgraded one iPad to iOS 7 and I am very disappointed with the new interface. I am in a quandary what to do with my other iOS devices. Although I like most of the new features, I hate the interface theme.
Canadian Casual Tablet Model Count Through Futureshop.ca:
Acer = 3 current tablets available, 3 discontinued tablets available Dell = 3 consumer HP = 2 consumer convertibles, 1 business tablet, 1 consume tablet Asus = 9 consumer tablets (including Google Nexus 7) D2 = 11 budget models Ematic = 2 children's models Hipstreet = 13 various models LePan = 1 model Microsoft = 3 various models Samsung = 13 models Sony = 1 model Nabi = 1 model Vinci = 1
So far a total of 69 models with many "exclusives" for the retailer. Called a few shops nearby (like a real analyst does) and found every Android and Windows model was available, in all colours, all memory configurations, and all screen variations, in most stores. The lowly Apple "hut" was sold out of 4 of their 6 SKU's, with an unknown date for reshipment. This doesn't even count phone/tablets "phablets" out there below 7" screens sizes. It's starting to look like those 1970's car comparison commercials where one dealer offers free radials and the other 'chrome' bumpers. Who cares? They can mix up all the parts to their hearts content, and they still sit on the shelves. I personally bought 3 mini tablets, each below $150CAN, only to be completely frustrated by the outdated Android software, zero support and service and ended up using them as clocks on the wall, until I splurged for the more expensive iPad mini. It never leaves my hands, and it's the only tablet I travel with, leaving my laptop at home. It just works well and never hinders my experience. It's not about the sell in, but the consumer experience and contentment of the product. I cannot remember a single person telling me once that Samcrumb's 10" phablet with high speed wizardry was so amazing. Not once ever.
So who are they selling to? The retailers who gladly take the hit and sell them off cheap 6 months later. Or unload stock in a company wide sell off to a white box store to unload.
Until these generics start to release $$ of sold items by model/screen size, their sell in numbers mean nothing. Just more electronic dump waste until they clean up their acts and make a great product.
Even aside from the shipments vs sales thing... the story is that collectively, a bunch of companies make almost as much money selling more tablets as Apple.
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Very well done.
On my informal research, people do buy Android tablets. However they are usually for gifts or purchased by people who don't know any better. They try to use them, get frustrated and stick them in a drawer somewhere where they are forgotten and alone. Maybe they will be given to some poor unsuspecting child who then finds the phablet size to be perfect for skipping across the local body of water.
In otherwords... they are either a) on shelves awaiting to be purchased by some unknowing consumer at CVS or b) activated c) used for a week d) discarded.
For a long time I hadn't seen too many. Now I see almost as many Android Tabs as iPads.
Really? You must live in China
I say all that knowing that there are a few really good Android tablets like the Amazon Kindle. I'd recommend that to anyone. But most devices are terribly hard to use for the average consumer and are relegated either to computer geeks, or the trash bin.
I call BS.
The cheapest Apple tablet is $329. There are millions of Android tablets selling for under $100 and few over $329, much less the $500 or more of most iPads. There's no way in the world that the average selling price for Android tablets is even close to the average for iPads.
But what do you expect from someone called the "Media Tablets, Ultrabooks and eReaders Research Service"?
So now Apple is no longer doomed but iPad is? How creative.
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
Apple needs to adapt iOS specifically to take advantage of the iPad size.
They can't. They have to make sure iOS works with a wide variety of manufacturer devices, video cards, screen sizes. Oh wait, did I say iOS? I meant Windows.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
IMO, as long as Samsung and other tablet makers refuse to provide unit sales figures in securities documents, then estimates by "independent analysts" such be deemed just so much PR for Apple's competitors.
Utter nonsense!!! #1. The iPad mini is already the best selling tablet in the world even without a retina display which makes your comment ridiculous. #2. People absolutely positively pay for the pad because of its superior OS and ecosystem, along with superior user experience, superior build quality, superior service and support, superior resale value by far, etc. etc. etc. - that is not going to change!
BS! Go take a nap.
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
Radical abandonment for what? Green and purple Windows 8 Metro?
I'm talking about the new Kindle tablets and the 2nd gen Nexus, not cheap POS devices for China.
I thought you were serious there for a second.
IMO Apple needs to bail on the hideous iOS color scheme, zooming motion and translucency or they are going to alienate their core target market. If they are looking to appeal to the pre-teen, tweerer, and teen market then the new interface makes complete sense. But to middle age adults who have been their main customer demographic since the introduction of the iPhone, there is not much appreciation for the latest interface design. I predict either a radical reversal of interface design or a radical abandonment of iOS devices by the 30-50 year-old adult market segment .
BS! Go take a nap.
By its very definition a prediction cannot be BS because it relates to something in the future. You can come back in a year or so and say my prediction was incorrect but BS is defined as something being untrue in the present.
For a long time I hadn't seen too many. Now I see almost as many Android Tabs as iPads. I'm an expat living in China and see very few Android tablets in major metropolitan areas. They are even using iPads in restaurants to display menus and take orders.
That is certainly a possibility, but I was thinking more along the lines of Android. I only upgraded one iPad to iOS 7 and I am very disappointed with the new interface. I am in a quandary what to do with my other iOS devices. Although I like most of the new features, I hate the interface theme.
Acer = 3 current tablets available, 3 discontinued tablets available
Dell = 3 consumer
HP = 2 consumer convertibles, 1 business tablet, 1 consume tablet
Asus = 9 consumer tablets (including Google Nexus 7)
D2 = 11 budget models
Ematic = 2 children's models
Hipstreet = 13 various models
LePan = 1 model
Microsoft = 3 various models
Samsung = 13 models
Sony = 1 model
Nabi = 1 model
Vinci = 1
So far a total of 69 models with many "exclusives" for the retailer. Called a few shops nearby (like a real analyst does) and found every Android and Windows model was available, in all colours, all memory configurations, and all screen variations, in most stores. The lowly Apple "hut" was sold out of 4 of their 6 SKU's, with an unknown date for reshipment. This doesn't even count phone/tablets "phablets" out there below 7" screens sizes. It's starting to look like those 1970's car comparison commercials where one dealer offers free radials and the other 'chrome' bumpers. Who cares? They can mix up all the parts to their hearts content, and they still sit on the shelves. I personally bought 3 mini tablets, each below $150CAN, only to be completely frustrated by the outdated Android software, zero support and service and ended up using them as clocks on the wall, until I splurged for the more expensive iPad mini. It never leaves my hands, and it's the only tablet I travel with, leaving my laptop at home. It just works well and never hinders my experience. It's not about the sell in, but the consumer experience and contentment of the product. I cannot remember a single person telling me once that Samcrumb's 10" phablet with high speed wizardry was so amazing. Not once ever.
So who are they selling to? The retailers who gladly take the hit and sell them off cheap 6 months later. Or unload stock in a company wide sell off to a white box store to unload.
Until these generics start to release $$ of sold items by model/screen size, their sell in numbers mean nothing. Just more electronic dump waste until they clean up their acts and make a great product.
Sounds like good news to me.
I bet BMW would be pretty happy and the stock value would be pretty high.
Alas, when it's tablets and Apple this is bad news I'm sure …