GM, Audi, Hyundai, Honda, nVidia officially join Google's Android automotive push

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  • Reply 61 of 128
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,776member

    As unstable as Android is, I'm not sure this is a wise move. Could you imagine if the Android stuff stopped working? You are stuck supporting it yourself. Eeek! My car won't start because of Malware. 

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  • Reply 62 of 128
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,301member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    I've seen several Apple commenters claim Google is intentionally feeding the NSA. Did I miss a news release to that effect? If so perhaps you could take just a moment and link it. I remember a recent one having to do with Apple devices and the NSA and even that didn't claim it was intentional. Perhaps you've confused things.

    Sure, it's called the PRISM document from Edward Snowden, I'm sure you can "Google it" for yourself.

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  • Reply 63 of 128
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,776member
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    Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post





    What makes me think that is that they don't say a single word about that level of "openness" on their own website, linked to in the story here. All kinds of other puffery, but nothing about anything but Android.



    Perhaps you have other information you could link to.

    It isn't open at all. Google is not playing the open game any more. They are even less shy about it now. The problem is Android is constantly in beta. It's hacked to death etc...

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  • Reply 64 of 128
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member

    I think this is ultimately good for Apple, whether this shakes out to an open or Apple-proprietary standard.

    I means that auto makers are giving up the ghost on rolling their own in-car systems. Better for everyone. Do what you do best and let the experts do the rest.

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  • Reply 65 of 128
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,301member
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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    Every single one of your posts in which you poo-poo on any non Apple platform is evidence aplenty.

    And your love of brown-nosing Google is evidence aplenty that no one should ever listen to you, or trust your judgement. Now GTFO.

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  • Reply 66 of 128
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member
    magman1979 wrote: »
    Sure, it's called the PRISM document from Edward Snowden, I'm sure you can "Google it" for yourself.

    Ah, you know just where to look then. This should be an easy request, especially since you wouldn't want to be seen as making it up: Can you quote the part where Google is said to be feeding data to the NSA for the rest of us? The news media apparently hasn't discovered it yet.
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  • Reply 67 of 128
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    rogifan wrote: »
    Google isn't going to work on something like this if there's nothing in it for them. No company would. I wonder then how Google is benefiting, unless there's user tracking or car dashboards will now be full of ads...

    They will track users, of course, and offer audio ads if you are in range of a specific vendor.

    gatorguy wrote: »
    I've seen several Apple commenters claim Google is intentionally feeding the NSA. Did I miss a news release to that effect? If so perhaps you could take just a moment and link it. I remember a recent one having to do with Apple devices and the NSA and even that didn't claim it was intentional. Perhaps you've confused things.

    I think you can infer NSA is looking at Android because it's "open". As for Apple devices, if hackers can jailbreak an iPhone, you can be damn sure the NSA can jailbreak one.
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  • Reply 68 of 128
    rob53 wrote: »
    That's not what the article says and that's never what Google has in mind. All they want to do is to push another way to force advertising onto everything they can. Just think, they'll be able to map everywhere you drive and let the NSA grab their data.
    rob53 wrote: »
    That's not what the article says and that's never what Google has in mind. All they want to do is to push another way to force advertising onto everything they can. Just think, they'll be able to map everywhere you drive and let the NSA grab their data.
    yes sir, my thought exactly.... Just another force enter!
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  • Reply 69 of 128
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    adonissmu wrote: »
    As unstable as Android is, I'm not sure this is a wise move. Could you imagine if the Android stuff stopped working? You are stuck supporting it yourself. Eeek! My car won't start because of Malware. 

    And Apple stores are filled with people that have rock steady stable devices and just stopped by to say hi. The constant reboots of Android 2.3 are a thing of the past, it's gotten increasingly stable since 4.0.
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  • Reply 70 of 128
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    magman1979 wrote: »
    And your love of brown-nosing Google is evidence aplenty that no one should ever listen to you, or trust your judgement. Now GTFO.

    Show me where I've brown nosed Google and then I'll GTFO.
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  • Reply 71 of 128
    chipsychipsy Posts: 287member
    magman1979 wrote: »
    Sure, it's called the PRISM document from Edward Snowden, I'm sure you can "Google it" for yourself.

    Have we forgotten that Apple is/was also part of the PRISM program. And for what it's worth Apple also has a targeted advertising service iAd, for which it also collects user information.
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  • Reply 72 of 128
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post

    Every single one of your posts in which you poo-poo on any non Apple platform is evidence aplenty.

     



    Thanks for confirming that you have no evidence whatsoever.

     

    Tell me, how many people develop for Windows Mobile? BlackBerry? Tizen? How many users? How about platform satisfaction reports? Third party revenue stats? Now what on Earth makes you think that anyone’s going to waste their time building for them?

     

    Come off it.

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  • Reply 73 of 128
    "If you don't want anyone to know where you are going -- perhaps, you shouldn't be going anywhere."
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  • Reply 74 of 128
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

    "If you don't want anyone to know where you are going -- perhaps, you shouldn't be going anywhere."

     

    Thanks, Eric. ;)

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  • Reply 75 of 128
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,776member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    And Apple stores are filled with people that have rock steady stable devices and just stopped by to say hi. The constant reboots of Android 2.3 are a thing of the past, it's gotten increasingly stable since 4.0.

    I don't even know what that means since every person I know who had an Android device ultimately ended up going back to iOS. It doesn't make sense to put a budget system in a car. On a phone people can get buy with it because they aren't spending thousands of dollars on it.

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  • Reply 76 of 128
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member


    Thanks for confirming that you have no evidence whatsoever.

    Tell me, how many people develop for Windows Mobile? BlackBerry? Tizen? How many users? How about platform satisfaction reports? Third party revenue stats? Now what on Earth makes you think that anyone’s going to waste their time building for them?

    Come off it.

    You're absolutely right, but that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that you'd never ever admit that any platform would be worth developing for whether it's a existing one or one yet to be made. Now there's nothing wrong with that just don't like you ever would.
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  • Reply 77 of 128
    r2d2r2d2 Posts: 95member
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    Originally Posted by MagMan1979 View Post

     

    Yes I would've noticed in a heart beat, and would be selling the rust bucket in a New York minute. I don't want ANY company that's as vile as Google to be in my car, or anywhere else for that matter!


     

     

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    Originally Posted by RogueDogRandy View Post

     

    emphasis/bold mine

    No way, you would know it because you could smell that shitty ass system a mile away


     

    As I said, the lack of emotional intelligence is amazing!

     

    No one is going to have to choose between mobile platforms when purchasing a car mentioned in this article - no one!

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  • Reply 78 of 128
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    And Apple stores are filled with people that have rock steady stable devices and just stopped by to say hi. The constant reboots of Android 2.3 are a thing of the past, it's gotten increasingly stable since 4.0.

    And how many Androids are on 4.x?
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  • Reply 79 of 128
    I knew it: except I predicted, or joked, that it would be called Open Dashboard Alliance. I predict that "open" will mean: OBEY GOOGLE. At least Apple isn't pretending to be "open".
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  • Reply 80 of 128
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    adonissmu wrote: »
    I don't even know what that means since every person I know who had an Android device ultimately ended up going back to iOS. It doesn't make sense to put a budget system in a car. On a phone people can get buy with it because they aren't spending thousands of dollars on it.

    My point is that Android isn't as unstable as it once was, and while iOS has always been pretty stable it is not 100% problem free. While malware is indeed a concern it's not the problem it's been made out to be.
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