I know you know the answer but I'll humor you. The iPad actually doesn't do everything the iPhone can do (no cellular calls, VoIP doesn't count) but it's larger and can be used in more ways than an iPhone. They both have their place.
Lol yes I know the answer. I wanted to read jungmark's take on it.
Not sure I'm comfortable with mobile phones being placed up against traditional PC's in this data. Adding iPads & Mac's together no problem but adding in iPhones...... You might as well start adding in my calculator wrist watch from the 80's, it's able to compute after all.
This is funny considering the iPad was dubbed just a giant iPhone (or iPod Touch) from the moment it was announced.
Good for Apple! This is a landmark achievement and a testament to Apple's quality products, business planning, and marketing strategies. Once again Apple has proved the pessimistic analysts wrong.
This is funny considering the iPad was dubbed just a giant iPhone (or iPod Touch) from the moment it was announced.
It's human nature to want to compare something different to something that's well known. People didn’t know what to make of it but the devs sure did, and with the great apps users saw that it was much more than just a big iPod/iPhone.
What a completely absurd and meaningless comparison. How does it make sense to compare Apple's phones, tablets, PMPs and computers against PC sales? If phones are now considered computers, as you seem to think, then why exclude Android phones, for example? I know you've made this some silly Microsoft vs. Apple thing, as if we're back in the 90s, but the way you've drawn this comparison is just so arbitrary and pointless. It's embarrassing, really.
Ok, then why is this silly comparison only including Apple phones and leaving out ALL other smart phones... such as those running Android?
Because market analyst Benedict Evans wanted to see how the two big OS developers most of us grew up with are fairing against each other. Perhaps you are too young to remember (although that seems very odd) but neither Android nor Google has been around nearly as long as Apple and MS.
There have been plenty of studies that take all tablets and smartphones (and feature phones running Android) into account when determining market share, but this is about two specific companies, not the entire market.
So the only way Apple can say they outsold Windows OEM's is to combine ios devices into the computer category. Sorry that is a lame answer if you can't win on the product alone then don't play the game. Desktops/laptops vs desktops/laptops. Next they will count their iwatch as a computer and the appletv as well.
Dan, I always enjoy your stories, but you must stop sending your articles through the official AppleInsider proofing machine. Sentences without ending, extra words added where they don't belong? You really should be embarrassed!
Not sure I'm comfortable with mobile phones being placed up against traditional PC's in this data. Adding iPads & Mac's together no problem but adding in iPhones...... You might as well start adding in my calculator wrist watch from the 80's, it's able to compute after all.
Can you take your watch to a business meeting, connect to the wi-fi, and conduct a million dollar presentation on the flat-panel TV via AppleTV...? Can your watch wirelessly print out the handouts for the meeting in pdf, or docx format...? Can your watch take a large order from a GSA customer and send it to your home office for immediate shipment, track the order, and communicate with trafficing via phone, text or email...? Umm, I thought not.
If Steve Ballmer were still alive, he'd be screaming, sweating, and throwing chairs.
Microsoft is so much less fun without him.
He may be yet pulling strings from his position on the board, but he's too much of an egomaniac to stop shilling for Microsoft from his new bully pulpit... I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Uncle Fester.. The media love to interview him too much to leave him alone.
Now you're just splitting hairs. Can we all agree an iPhone is a much more capable device than an 80's calculator watch or even an 80's PC?
Totally correct. An iPhone 5s would blow an IBM PC out of the water and an IBM XT ... and so on ... , hell they were only 8 bit not to mention the crappy OS they ran!
Can you take your watch to a business meeting, connect to the wi-fi, and conduct a million dollar presentation on the flat-panel TV via AppleTV...? Can your watch wirelessly print out the handouts for the meeting in pdf, or docx format...? Can your watch take a large order from a GSA customer and send it to your home office for immediate shipment, track the order, and communicate with trafficing via phone, text or email...? Umm, I thought not.
Well said. Mr, or perhaps Ms saarek seemingly doesn't own an iPhone or he/she would understand that!
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wait a minute you forgot to add in the Microsoft Surface RT and Pro to the Microsoft column. that changes everything. /s
Lol yes I know the answer. I wanted to read jungmark's take on it.
This is funny considering the iPad was dubbed just a giant iPhone (or iPod Touch) from the moment it was announced.
Microsoft is so much less fun without him.
It's human nature to want to compare something different to something that's well known. People didn’t know what to make of it but the devs sure did, and with the great apps users saw that it was much more than just a big iPod/iPhone.
What a completely absurd and meaningless comparison. How does it make sense to compare Apple's phones, tablets, PMPs and computers against PC sales? If phones are now considered computers, as you seem to think, then why exclude Android phones, for example? I know you've made this some silly Microsoft vs. Apple thing, as if we're back in the 90s, but the way you've drawn this comparison is just so arbitrary and pointless. It's embarrassing, really.
Phones are effectively PC's, and will more and more take over their role.
Ok, then why is this silly comparison only including Apple phones and leaving out ALL other smart phones... such as those running Android?
Because market analyst Benedict Evans wanted to see how the two big OS developers most of us grew up with are fairing against each other. Perhaps you are too young to remember (although that seems very odd) but neither Android nor Google has been around nearly as long as Apple and MS.
There have been plenty of studies that take all tablets and smartphones (and feature phones running Android) into account when determining market share, but this is about two specific companies, not the entire market.
Perhaps similar, but it doesn't really matter because iOS is not certified UNIX.
You can read the dozens of requirements here:
http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/testing/prodstds.htm
iOS doesn't conform to any of them.
I'm not seeing where Darwin is certified either, just Mountain Lion and Mavericks
Now you're just splitting hairs. Can we all agree an iPhone is a much more capable device than an 80's calculator watch or even an 80's PC?
Surely you can't be serious.
Can you take your watch to a business meeting, connect to the wi-fi, and conduct a million dollar presentation on the flat-panel TV via AppleTV...? Can your watch wirelessly print out the handouts for the meeting in pdf, or docx format...? Can your watch take a large order from a GSA customer and send it to your home office for immediate shipment, track the order, and communicate with trafficing via phone, text or email...? Umm, I thought not.
No I'm not, was curious on your take on it.
He may be yet pulling strings from his position on the board, but he's too much of an egomaniac to stop shilling for Microsoft from his new bully pulpit... I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Uncle Fester.. The media love to interview him too much to leave him alone.
Totally correct. An iPhone 5s would blow an IBM PC out of the water and an IBM XT ... and so on ... , hell they were only 8 bit not to mention the crappy OS they ran!
Well said. Mr, or perhaps Ms saarek seemingly doesn't own an iPhone or he/she would understand that!