Closer look at alleged 'iPhone 6' front panel suggests 5.1" screen with 16:9 ratio

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  • Reply 21 of 135
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member

    It looks like there are quite a few of those display on that pallet, too many to be in the prototype phase of the phone, for this many displays to show up now, long before the Developer conference or the normal fall releases seems like this product could be right around the corner.

     

    If this product is not soon ready for release, and these are not the first shipments of part for production, these could be parts which apple is disposing of since they may have decided to go a different direction with the product. This could be the reason this pallet of parts are in a warehouse where people can walk around with a camera and take pictures.

  • Reply 22 of 135
    mvigodmvigod Posts: 172member
    Larger iphone is 3 years overdue. They should have been AHEAD of samsung and the other mfg's with this trend. Not years behind as a slow follower. Sad to see what Apple has become under Cook
  • Reply 23 of 135
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,810member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by paxman View Post

     

    I cannot for a minute imagine that Apple will go wholesale to a larger format. A new format will be an addition to the present size - which I am pretty sure will remain the better seller, at least in North America and Europe.


     

    I hear this a lot on this forum. People think if Apple releases a 4" and a larger phone that the 4" would be the bigger seller. What I want to know is what do you base this on? In every online poll I have seen in the last two years the larger sizes were an overwhelming majority. And in polls asking between a 4.7" and 5.5" the larger one was winning in all the polls I saw. People that want to keep 4" were only around 10% to the highest I saw at 28%. Many of these polls also have thousands of respondents. I realize polls can be skewed or inaccurate but can all of them be wrong? Anecdotally every single person I know with an iPhone wants a larger display including me. Not one single iPhone owner I know said they are happy with 4".  So please enlighten me on your rationale for thinking a 4" iPhone would outsell a product when all evidence seem to suggest the opposite. This is beginning to remind me of republicans dismissing polling data in the last presidential election.

     

    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/21/poll-iphone-6-screen-size/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-would-you-buy-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-1

    http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/27/iphone-6-size

    http://bgr.com/2013/11/11/iphone-6-poll-purchase-intent/

     

  • Reply 24 of 135
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by melgross View Post



    I've read somewhere else, that this photo shows a 4.7" screen. One has to be careful measuring these things, as the phones aren't from and center, they are at an angle. But one more thing matters.



    Turn your phone on, and you will see that the actual screen is slightly smaller than the cutout on the bezel. So if the bezel is being measured, the screen size will come out slightly larger than it really is.

    It is probably 4.7 but from a supply chain POV, it would work better for Apple to release only 1 model at 5"

     

    I am warming up to the idea to a bigger iphone - my wallet is ready!

  • Reply 25 of 135
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by george li View Post



    Neil, you need to either revise or retract this article. Steve from EAST COAST PIXELS clearly did the wrong calculation. The photo is showing a 4.7 inch screen, not 5.1 inch.

     

     

    yeah I would have to agree, need someone with an engineering background making the measurement, not some arts degree.

     

    I was looking at this attempt to measure and could not see how on the black phone, he showed the know measurement of 2.31" and then on the one what display a measurement of 4.42". If you simply took the 2.31" line and laid it on the while display you can clearly see if not almost 2x as large, not sure how he even came to the 4.42" number.

  • Reply 26 of 135
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by mvigod View Post

    Larger iphone is 3 years overdue. They should have been AHEAD of samsung and the other mfg's with this trend. Not years behind as a slow follower. Sad to see what Apple has become under Cook

     

    Shut up and go away.

  • Reply 27 of 135
    pazuzupazuzu Posts: 1,728member
    This is hysterical - not only would it mean Apple copies a phatphone but also it's screen ratio? Priceless!
  • Reply 28 of 135
    Size DOES matter!
  • Reply 29 of 135
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gwmac View Post

     

     

    I hear this a lot on this forum. People think if Apple releases a 4" and a larger phone that the 4" would be the bigger seller. What I want to know is what do you base this on? In every online poll I have seen in the last two years the larger sizes were an overwhelming majority. And in polls asking between a 4.7" and 5.5" the larger one was winning in all the polls I saw. People that want to keep 4" were only around 10% to the highest I saw at 28%. Many of these polls also have thousands of respondents. I realize polls can be skewed or inaccurate but can all of them be wrong? Anecdotally every single person I know with an iPhone wants a larger display including me. Not one single iPhone owner I know said they are happy with 4".  So please enlighten me on your rationale for thinking a 4" iPhone would outsell a product when all evidence seem to suggest the opposite. This is beginning to remind me of republicans dismissing polling data in the last presidential election.

     

    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/21/poll-iphone-6-screen-size/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-would-you-buy-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-1

    http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/27/iphone-6-size

    http://bgr.com/2013/11/11/iphone-6-poll-purchase-intent/

     


    I do not believe these surveys, why, they are just people opinions of what they think they want. As Steve has always said and is true consumers do not know what they want. If they put an actually larger phone in these people hands and ask them to compare it to what they want and see if they would buy on the spot, I bet the results will tell you something different.

     

    Even Google own date on the number of Android phones with larger displays is only about 15% of the population of Android devices. With Samsung and others all pushing larger displays why isn't this number a lot  higher then. Google's actual data is telling a different story than someone asking people if they want a bigger display. With all things being equal they probably want a bigger display, until they have to use it. Google's data is showing actual consumers usage and purchasing preference, Too many company lost their shirts building product base on consumers opinions verse where they actually spend their money.

     

     


































































      ldpi mdpi tvdpi hdpi xhdpi xxhdpi Total
    Small 8.1%           8.1%
    Normal   13.2%   33.7% 19.8% 12.5% 79.2%
    Large 0.7% 4.4% 1.5% 0.6% 0.6%   7.8%
    Xlarge 0.1% 4.2%   0.3% 0.3%   4.9%
    Total 8.9% 21.8% 1.5% 34.6% 20.7% 12.5%

    Data collected during a 7-day period ending on April 1, 2014. 

    Any screen configurations with less than 0.1% distribution are not shown.

     

  • Reply 30 of 135
    peteraltpeteralt Posts: 155member
    That could be the 5.5" model.... More screen could go over the speaker or the button.
  • Reply 31 of 135
    adrayven wrote: »
    First.. a completely bezel-less design is a pipe dream and will not happen.. Some type of bezel is required to keep the screen from shattering from the smallest of drops..

    Eliminate the bezel and you create a phone with on-going screen damage issues.. plain and simple.. this is why I think Kuo is completely full if it and has no clue.. plus Kuo's track record is that of a shotgun .. he spews a ton of things, then only 'touts' the guesses he just 'happened' to get right.. Anyone can do that..

    This may well be yet another prototype face plate.. no doubt Apple has tested many designs, 4.7, 5.5, and everything in between.. There is nothing that suggests they were testing all sizes and finally are settling on a 5.1", then release a 4" and 5.1" side by size.. an iPhone and iPhone Pro and charge the extra '$100' for the Pro model..

    Keeps current customers happy that like the smaller form-factor, makes devs happy with 16.9 ration not screwing them up, and makes large screen must-have customers happy..


    Wouldn't a sapphire screen mitigate the screen damage issues?
  • Reply 32 of 135
    It's about 4.8 inches across, definitely not as much as 5.1. I've 3D transformed the image and superimposed an iPhone 5s over the left phone and then measured the ratio of the display diagonals and the phone cover on the right is 1.2x bigger.
  • Reply 33 of 135
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post

    Even Google own date on the number of Android phones with larger displays is only about 10% of the population of Android devices.


     

    “But but but but but but but that’s ONLY because the others are sold to third world countries because they can’t afford the big…”

     

    See, they can’t even worm their way into making Android look good. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 34 of 135
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,810member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post

     

    I do not believe these surveys, why, they are just people opinions of what they think they want. As Steve has always said and is true consumers do not know what they want. If they put an actually larger phone in these people hands and ask them to compare it to what they want and see if they would buy on the spot, I bet the results will tell you something different.

     

    Even Google own date on the number of Android phones with larger displays is only about 10% of the population of Android devices. With Samsung and others all pushing larger displays why is this number not higher then. Google's actual data is telling a different story than someone asking people if they want a bigger display. With all things being equal they probably want a bigger display, until they have to use it.


     

    Of course  a smaller percentage of Android users use larger screens since these phones tend to be far more expensive. In fact they are priced around the same as the iPhone. Most cellphone users in the world live in dirt poor countries and can only afford to buy dirt cheap sub $200 phones which tend to be smaller and in many cases run older versions of Android. Once there are larger phones under $200 I can promise you all those people will buy them over their smaller ones. It is not a preference for a smaller display it is a preference to eat dinner and not go homeless. 

     

    By your logic when Apple releases a larger phone then you should respect their ability to tell you what you really want and buy a larger one since you were wrong in thinking 4" was a good size for you. 

  • Reply 35 of 135
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by gwmac View Post

    By your logic when Apple releases a larger phone then you should respect their ability to tell you what you really want and buy a larger one since you were wrong in thinking 4” was a good size for you. 


     

    Unlike some people, I’m fine with being proven wrong.

  • Reply 36 of 135
    symssyms Posts: 1member
    Is this made of saphire? ;)
  • Reply 37 of 135
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    mvigod wrote: »
    Larger iphone is 3 years overdue. They should have been AHEAD of samsung and the other mfg's with this trend. Not years behind as a slow follower. Sad to see what Apple has become under Cook

    You're still here?
    gwmac wrote: »
    I hear this a lot on this forum. People think if Apple releases a 4" and a larger phone that the 4" would be the bigger seller. What I want to know is what do you base this on? In every online poll I have seen in the last two years the larger sizes were an overwhelming majority. And in polls asking between a 4.7" and 5.5" the larger one was winning in all the polls I saw. People that want to keep 4" were only around 10% to the highest I saw at 28%. Many of these polls also have thousands of respondents. I realize polls can be skewed or inaccurate but can all of them be wrong? Anecdotally every single person I know with an iPhone wants a larger display including me. Not one single iPhone owner I know said they are happy with 4".  So please enlighten me on your rationale for thinking a 4" iPhone would outsell a product when all evidence seem to suggest the opposite. This is beginning to remind me of republicans dismissing polling data in the last presidential election.

    http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/21/poll-iphone-6-screen-size/
    http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-would-you-buy-an-iphone-with-a-bigger-screen-2013-1
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/27/iphone-6-size</span>

    http://bgr.com/2013/11/11/iphone-6-poll-purchase-intent/

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="41839" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/41839/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 308px; height: 383px">

    Is this a scientific survey or a web poll?
  • Reply 38 of 135
    irelandireland Posts: 17,799member

  • Reply 39 of 135
    mvigodmvigod Posts: 172member

    I agree with the Poll above. I believe we will see the small 4" iphone screens go the way of the buggy whip once the larger screens are on sale.  Does anyone want the smaller original iphone or 3GS screen size anymore?  Nope.  Think folks.  Apple is way behind and playing catch up. The larger iphones are the last huge catalyst for upgrade and Apple knows it.  It is pondering a $100 add'l for the larger screen iphone to milk it to the end.

     

    Once on sale the only people buying smaller screen iphones are the ones who do it SOLELY because of price.  If Apple had the price the same the number of small screen iphones sold would barely be a rounding error.

  • Reply 40 of 135
    irelandireland Posts: 17,799member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Unlike some people, I’m fine with being proven wrong.


     

    lol

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